But window on the park is those big square feet , not include the small size below 1000sqf that type

Ofcuz no point to argue just wotp owners seems arrogant to point out every project weakness and praise wotp till sky high whereas other prop owner just keep quiet.
We shouldn't compare at all at the first place, should compare in our heart n find the best one.
It's pretty unfair to compare reputation of developer, as zalam is a main contractor which just started to venture in property and this CT would be their first high end benchmark I would say. FYI they r now constructing Maison Ara damansara and some other projecrs too.

Brand doesn't mean is the best here as we can see even YTL Mahsing Setia do offer poor workmanship project (differ contract using). Reliability also based on the performance evaluation by other customer who hav been using Zalam as contractor.

We wil wait and see how's the end product looks like.
Found this thread this morning and actually decided not to comment. But can't see our home being bullshit for nth since the condo yet to complete. Wait 2016 Ok?  =)

I think u r talking yourself and ur lovely neighbour too.  Everybody know someone always criticise other project in almost every thread until we ady give him a nick =)
Sorry we do accept all the negative comments as this could help CT owners to verify and confirm with our developer, just like what we always have discuss with developer on the potential problems from the beginning since 2013. If we don't accept the comments,  we won't be complaining to developer for further improvement 
Yes open forum is freedom of speech, but not spreading something not a fact. If one do not know the whole story or fact, pls do not give comment or provide the misleading info.
We as owner who knows project well,should provide the correct and accurate info to potential buyers. Atleast not go to other thread and said this project jialat that one jialat.
Urside ady have the first impression that wotp is the best, hence whatever comments which against ur project would be eyesore for yourside too. But we r telling the fact.

you sure within 500 meter WOTP have citibank papa rich and aeon big????????

from google map, from WOTP to citibank or AEON BIG or papa rich, is about 1.5KM - 2KM.

nothing below a KM.

from google map, from WOTP to citibank or AEON BIG or papa rich, is about 1.5KM - 2KM.

nothing below a KM.

but thats driving distance.

bro, as long as you willing to pay, any property can be good fengshui. from feng shui situ.

Where the 2km come from? Where u heard the news from?
Did zalam mention anything bout balakong station?
And I guess zalam do not need answer, and I, an owner can't demand anything at al since its stated Proposed Mrt line 2, nothing is confirmed and out of their control.
As mentioned before, if damai perdana station confirmed, it's a bonus. We never shout bout the station as most of the owners CT did mentioned it's better located further bit from CT. 1.5km- 2km just perfect as we do not want the area to be too congested and messy.

I don't see the point to compare every project.  Every project has its own thread to share info and opinions.

Don't see a point to have this thread here.

Omg! I'm just to avoid any argument again. I'm answering every comment politely yet u being to pushy.
Fishy? I can tel everything of Cloudtree, if someone interested, pls pm me (almost everyday I received message to ask my opinion on CT investment,  so I will share all pros and cons)
Really speechless.  Whatever cloudtree owner said what, someone will just against it. So no point to comment it here.
Perhaps good things always gain more attention.

Thumbs up I agree with you, Calvin on this..developers will never tell all the truths. This is where we share the facts good or bad..so we can make better decision as buyers.. Most pros developer will definitely highlight..and even worse..exaggerate..it's actually better to discuss on cons here..

No comments la bro.
That's why I said u guys never know CT, never read our thread .
Cons? Did I denied the abandoned shoplots?  I've said the negative stuff ten times more than u guys in our own thread la bro. Go and read la stop blame at me.
Abandoned terrace houses, flooded, dead end road, small access with no traffic light, apartment infront CT, near to factories,  high density (block E only), dibs cancelled,  near HTC, etc I've mentioned in our Thread but most of them ady been solved by developer. 

If wild wolf u wanna compare these projects to help on your investment choice, pls do ur study by studying all the threads like what I've been doing all this while before I buy a property. 

Nways stop here and enjoy weekend!

No comments la bro.
That's why I said u guys never know CT, never read our thread .
Cons? Did I denied the abandoned shoplots?  I've said the negative stuff ten times more than u guys in our own thread la bro. Go and read la stop blame at me.
Abandoned terrace houses, flooded, dead end road, small access with no traffic light, apartment infront CT, near to factories,  high density (block E only), dibs cancelled,  near HTC, etc I've mentioned in our Thread but most of them ady been solved by developer. 

If wild wolf u wanna compare these projects to help on your investment choice, pls do ur study by studying all the threads like what I've been doing all this while before I buy a property. 

Nways stop here and enjoy weekend!

Abandoned terrace removed, dead end road made undead, dibs restored, HTC relocated. World is spinning again.

Totally agreed with you.

Readers, pls compare the comment of purchasers at both threads below and define your own neighborhood quality:
1. WOTP
2. CloudTree

One thing i need to highlight again, i would hav to say WOTP block C is not even on par with CloudTree block ABCD. As mentioned earlier, this WOTP block C was built to fulfill government requirement for LOW COST RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT once land size more than certain arces. P.S. You may compare with CloudTree block E.

If you're buyer of WOTP block AB, congratulation to you because your purchasing power is higher than most new launches at Cheras South area (which one can actually afford a landed property at same area). If you're WOTP block C, just to advise that NONE of the SDB advertisement is cater for your block, if happen it's just coincidence (so far i haven't find one, pls enlight me if found).

If not mistaken those <1000 sqft units with high density (found in both WOTP and CT) are built to follow government law to build low cost property whenever the residential land development more than 5 arces. You will realize the those units proposed price max at RM100k, and top up with 400k+ renovation fee. Obviously developers found the loophole of the law in this case.

Please accept the fact that those layout are CHEAPEST design that allow developers build MORE units at LOWEST costs. No point to "beautiful" your developer name, you won't get any reward. In term of value, do u think your property value will increase sky high because comments here at forum? Ppl are not stupid and value will become clear when construction completed.

If you're buyer of block C from WOTP, shame on you because your unit is not something SDB willing to build for, it's just forced by government. You won't share most of the best features offered by them.