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 Kitchen Cabinet v3, ...where the heart of the house is...

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post Feb 20 2017, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(veron4best @ Feb 20 2017, 01:06 PM)
Anyone know how much is KompacPlus's Kompac Top per foot run?
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Tivolli told me that it's RM350 per ft...
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post Feb 22 2017, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(faiyahoo @ Feb 20 2017, 01:26 PM)
Tivolli told me that it's RM350 per ft...
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The sales person from KompacPlus quote me RM400 pfr
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post Feb 22 2017, 03:13 PM

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any recommended kitchen cabinet seller near klang? want to install at my new house.
how much the price for 9' x 5' for kitchen cabinet? surface top
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post Feb 22 2017, 03:14 PM

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any recommended kitchen cabinet seller near klang? want to install at my new house.
how much the price for 9' x 5' for kitchen cabinet? surface top, melamine 3g
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post Feb 22 2017, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(veron4best @ Feb 22 2017, 02:30 PM)
The sales person from KompacPlus quote me RM400 pfr
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wew... then better find others lo hmm.gif
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post Feb 23 2017, 11:14 AM

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Mostly the KC cabinet will quote ard RM350
as i got other reference also ard this price
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post Feb 23 2017, 12:23 PM

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Guys.. planning to pick a combination of white and black color.. my concern is.. whether the white cabinet will become yellowish over time? any experience white-kitchen/wardrobe owner?
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post Feb 23 2017, 09:07 PM

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Today get quoted RM400/foot run for caesarstone quartz rclxub.gif
Is it worth to go for this high end quartz?
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post Feb 23 2017, 11:43 PM

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hi guys

I would like to do 3G kitchen cabinet for my house. Can you quote me the following:

Sink and hob area:
Base unit: 26 feet (L shape 18x12). Top is quartz.
Wall unit: 14 feet. Full height.

Fridge area:
Tall unit: 4ft. Full height.

Island/counter bar:
6x3ft, Top is quartz.

Please let me know the price. Pm plz

Thank you.
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post Feb 23 2017, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(ken_zen @ Feb 23 2017, 09:07 PM)
Today get quoted RM400/foot run for caesarstone quartz  rclxub.gif
Is it worth to go for this high end quartz?
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I think RM400 also their promo item already
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post Feb 24 2017, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(Eleganz Concept @ Feb 23 2017, 11:56 PM)
I think RM400 also their promo item already
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RM400 is promo item? what are the difference between the quartz? Some quoted me RM160/ft but some 280/ft...
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QUOTE(WahBiang @ Feb 24 2017, 12:17 AM)
RM400 is promo item? what are the difference between the quartz? Some quoted me RM160/ft but some 280/ft...
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Diff by import from where, their manufacturing costing, name, colour and so on. will 280/ft hv 75% more quality compare to RM160? I dont know, but i only know they are all quartz, may be diff ppl hv diff preference lo
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post Feb 24 2017, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(WahBiang @ Feb 24 2017, 12:17 AM)
RM400 is promo item? what are the difference between the quartz? Some quoted me RM160/ft but some 280/ft...
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The saleperson told me those cheaper quartz (imported from China) might to get fade and change color after 5-7 years used, don't know true or not...
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post Feb 24 2017, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Eleganz Concept @ Feb 24 2017, 12:25 AM)
Diff by import from where, their manufacturing costing, name, colour and so on. will 280/ft hv 75% more quality compare to RM160? I dont know, but i only know they are all quartz, may be diff ppl hv diff preference lo
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Based on your experience, how do we choose the quartz? It looks like many types of quartz. Another shop quoted me RM280/ft and telling me it is middle range quartz... how to define "middle range"? rclxub.gif
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Found this video regarding kompacplus fire/heat test, it looks like not good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzW9CaMURvA
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QUOTE(KCLCCT @ Feb 2 2016, 07:22 PM)
Cabinet Carcase first. Then granite person will measure then they will fix the table top.
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Need to do the electrical work first, powerpoint need to have cables prepared first?

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post Feb 24 2017, 08:16 PM

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May i know where can i find stainless steel carcass for sink unit only?

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post Feb 27 2017, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(veron4best @ Feb 24 2017, 08:16 PM)
May i know where can i find stainless steel carcass for sink unit only?

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post Feb 27 2017, 05:21 PM

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Hi All,

I would like to renovate my condo ~1000 sqft soon. I would like to hire a main contractor to supervise my house renovation. Reasons to hire a main contractor:
- He is familiar in this business and therefore has his own preferred sub-contractors who are listen to him, so renovation quality can be assured.
- He is experience to give advice on renovation ideas, steps and pre-cautions.
- Just face 1 person and he handle the rest. No need me to handle the conflicts between sub-contractors.

However, some concerns below make me think twice before hiring a main contractor.
- Taking too high commission for his own because he many reno items (kitchen cabinet, tv console, wardrobe, plaster ceiling, wiring, lightings...) to play
around.

For example,

Case 1:
If I hire 2 sub-contractors separately to just make wardrobe & tv cabinet for me, wardrobe Sub-Con can only charge me RM5k maximum, TV Cabinet Sub-Con can only charge me RM3k maximum. By paying them separately for 1 particular reno item at such high price, normally they dare not to cheat you because each of them only do one thing and the final product is actually representing their company reputation.

Case 2:
Similarity, if I hire a main contractor, ON TOP OF HIS personal commissions (says, RM10k), I pay him extra RM8k as well to build wardrobe & tv cabinet for me but he has to find his own Sub-Cons. In the end, the main-con might still bill me RM5k for wardrobe & RM3k for TV-cabinet but both wardrobe & Tv cabinet are actually worth 30% lesser than the bill amount. OR he might give me a high quality wardrobe which worth RM6k but the tv cabinet only worth RM500. So the extra RM8000-(RM6000+RM500)=RM1500 goes into his pocket. Sometime, we are not expert, and has no professional knowledge to detect the quality of the product given. One example is, all contractors claims that they are giving melamine but melamine itself can have so many types and may not be 100% melamine. This can make the final price quite a big different.

Case 3 (Ideally):
The reason I hire a main contractor is to provide me some good renovation advices to save my money as well as ensure the final product quality is better than what I will get in Case 1. Taking the above example, because I have already pay the main contractor RM10k as his own commissions, I would expect him to tell me that I can still get the same quality of products like what I will get in Case 1 even at a lower price, because, the main contractor has his own sub-contractors who can definitely charge a cheaper price compare to me (doing the same thing but to approach those well-known company). That is what I thought about the main-contractor functions and why he worth for that RM10k commissions.

Apparently, I know Malaysia company such as Legend Kitchen which act like one stop station (similar to the function of main contractor) can do everything for you. However, Legend Kitchen, the way they do business is pretty much like Case 2 already, quality of products may not worth for its price.

I know in Singapore, there are main constructors from certain company who are really professional, after they take their commissions, they will really do their
best to save the cost & ensure the product quality for their client (just like Case 3). Unfortunately, Malaysia has very few such companies. If I were to find the independent main contractors (no company one), I have to bear the risk these main-contractors might cheat and run away after they received payment.

So, what can I do?
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post Feb 27 2017, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(elnina @ Feb 27 2017, 05:21 PM)
Hi All,

I would like to renovate my condo ~1000 sqft soon. I would like to hire a main contractor to supervise my house renovation. Reasons to hire a main contractor:
- He is familiar in this business and therefore has his own preferred sub-contractors who are listen to him, so renovation quality can be assured.
- He is experience to give advice on renovation ideas, steps and pre-cautions.
- Just face 1 person and he handle the rest. No need me to handle the conflicts between sub-contractors.

However, some concerns below make me think twice before hiring a main contractor.
- Taking too high commission for his own because he many reno items (kitchen cabinet, tv console, wardrobe, plaster ceiling, wiring, lightings...) to play
around.

For example,

Case 1:
If I hire 2 sub-contractors separately to just make wardrobe & tv cabinet for me, wardrobe Sub-Con can only charge me RM5k maximum, TV Cabinet Sub-Con can only charge me RM3k maximum. By paying them separately for 1 particular reno item at such high price, normally they dare not to cheat you because each of them only do one thing and the final product is actually representing their company reputation.

Case 2:
Similarity, if I hire a main contractor, ON TOP OF HIS personal commissions (says, RM10k), I pay him extra RM8k as well to build wardrobe & tv cabinet for me but he has to find his own Sub-Cons. In the end, the main-con might still bill me RM5k for wardrobe & RM3k for TV-cabinet but both wardrobe & Tv cabinet are actually worth 30% lesser than the bill amount. OR he might give me a high quality wardrobe which worth RM6k but the tv cabinet only worth RM500. So the extra RM8000-(RM6000+RM500)=RM1500 goes into his pocket. Sometime, we are not expert, and has no professional knowledge to detect the quality of the product given. One example is, all contractors claims that they are giving melamine but melamine itself can have so many types and may not be 100% melamine. This can make the final price quite a big different.

Case 3 (Ideally):
The reason I hire a main contractor is to provide me some good renovation advices to save my money as well as ensure the final product quality is better than what I will get in Case 1. Taking the above example, because I have already pay the main contractor RM10k as his own commissions, I would expect him to tell me that I can still get the same quality of products like what I will get in Case 1 even at a lower price, because, the main contractor has his own sub-contractors who can definitely charge a cheaper price compare to me (doing the same thing but to approach those well-known company). That is what I thought about the main-contractor functions and why he worth for that RM10k commissions.

Apparently, I know Malaysia company such as Legend Kitchen which act like one stop station (similar to the function of main contractor) can do everything for you. However, Legend Kitchen, the way they do business is pretty much like Case 2 already, quality of products may not worth for its price.

I know in Singapore, there are main constructors from certain company who are really professional, after they take their commissions, they will really do their
best to save the cost & ensure the product quality for their client (just like Case 3). Unfortunately, Malaysia has very few such companies. If I were to find the independent main contractors (no company one), I have to bear the risk these main-contractors might cheat and run away after they received payment.

So, what can I do?
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You think too much.

C1. Hiring two same thread, for your case two carpenters, unless their style are so diff apart, or else you are just paying extra fixed cost for nothing.

C2. Quality control is a must. Either you do, or you hire somebody to do, or you do some and the main con do some. You want to hire cheap one of course you are getting what you are paying for. Similarly, ask you to research yourself probably too lazy right?

C3. You already have your answer.

Singapore is a comparable renovation heaven? Either you having prejudice or you based on very few samples. I can assure you haven seen how business are run in SG.



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