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waklu
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Nov 18 2014, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(Kevmeister @ Nov 18 2014, 09:58 AM) In short, they're nerfing DH in its entirety, along with the 1 set that works for us, and wants you to build around Multishot and the new set. Blizzard is handled by stupid people at the moment.not since beginning? btw, what is this sentries charges? work like monk DS charges? if got 5 charges can set 5 sentries?
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Kevmeister
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Nov 18 2014, 10:03 AM
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Similar to DS charges, but I think with cooldown and costs you Hatred to cast. Again, Blizz devs are idiots.
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pangke
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Nov 18 2014, 10:08 AM
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and here i am just completed the M6 set just weeks ago...
back to monk then or improve my sader
This post has been edited by pangke: Nov 18 2014, 10:09 AM
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metalfreak
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Nov 18 2014, 10:24 AM
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Deckard Cain
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Nov 18 2014, 10:48 AM
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Can say bye bye to those Imba tnts and bye bye to m6 as well while you're at it. Btw, I'm sure self casting and active gameplay is fun. Wait till you hit RD or better yet lets see DH self cast at GR while youre being thundered frozen and jailed. Haha. Fun times
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nagflar
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Nov 18 2014, 01:28 PM
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omg i just start my m6 dh.....
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fabvader
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Nov 18 2014, 01:54 PM
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What does stored charges mean? Its not a complete nerf I think.. Just making sure we are more involved in active play.. Anyway, let's wait for the ptr and the official change log before jumping to any conclusions..
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Vorador
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Nov 18 2014, 03:49 PM
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same here, kinda confused by the Sentry Charges text. Does it means how the sentry attack?
- Does it means it attack every 8 seconds? - Or does it means every charge allow 1 deploy? (but attack as usual?)
Oh my... if first case then totally nerfed to the ground.
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Deckard Cain
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Nov 18 2014, 03:53 PM
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As far as i know from what i've read :
1. Your sentry will fire spenders only when you're self casting or else it will fire blank bolts instead. 2. It will have stock 2 charges and added another 2 with custom engineering just like monk dashing strike. Once you use them up you won't be able to cast after I'm quite sure for quite a while you'll run around like a chicken once CD is over and until you get your charge back.
Custom Engineering : Now also increases the maximum amount of Sentry Charges. (Datamined text says that it's increased "to 2", but that may be a typo and charges are increased "by 2", for a total of 4 Charges with the Passive)3.
3. NS willl pric 4 hatred and at the current rate only EA BL has the best proc rate and even so you'll be hatred starved
CA w/ 1.84 aps = 40x3/1.84 -4 ~= 61.2 Hatred/sec while firing 3x1.84 +4 ~= 9.52 Hatred/sec while not firing
This will still be a huge issue.
So the nerfs or changes if you'd like to call it is definitely not going the right way. This is not conclusion. Btw, on tip of that, DH are surviving by hiding in corners while sentries.does the job. I'd like to see DH pop in front of the door to self cast so that their sentry fires.
This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Nov 18 2014, 04:00 PM
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Deckard Cain
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Nov 18 2014, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Nov 18 2014, 03:49 PM) same here, kinda confused by the Sentry Charges text. Does it means how the sentry attack? - Does it means it attack every 8 seconds? - Or does it means every charge allow 1 deploy? (but attack as usual?) Oh my... if first case then totally nerfed to the ground. 1 charge 1 sentry. Use them all up and there will be a long cooldown period before it starts to recharge all over again
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Vorador
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Nov 18 2014, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(Deckard Cain @ Nov 18 2014, 03:54 PM) 1 charge 1 sentry. Use them all up and there will be a long cooldown period before it starts to recharge all over again now I understand why Kev said blizz is handled by stupid people. they going to nerf the fun and add those unnecessary weirdo skill again. DH is the easiest to die yet blizz wanna force us to run upfront? Anyway I just checked out official forum, there's massive uproar against this nerf.
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metalfreak
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Nov 18 2014, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Nov 18 2014, 04:09 PM) now I understand why Kev said blizz is handled by stupid people. they going to nerf the fun and add those unnecessary weirdo skill again. DH is the easiest to die yet blizz wanna force us to run upfront? Anyway I just checked out official forum, there's massive uproar against this nerf. Surelor. some people took months to get the set, and they are doing this. If they want to nerf the perma smoke screen, fine but for peeps like me, I just got the M6 like late september, baru hampir 2 months...they plan to do this shit. Sigh. another case of "CM Wiz". Oh look, people are having fun again, lets remove that M6
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metalfreak
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Nov 18 2014, 04:21 PM
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InterestingQUOTE * Marauder is boring, what are you going to do about it *
Stay tuned on this one, but the philosophy moving forward with this set is they want to keep the power of the sentries, but they want to make gameplay more active instead of passive. In other words, they don't want you just running around playing missile defense, but rather actively engaging enemies. QUOTE * If you nerf my set I'll be less powerful *
The philosophy moving forward unlike ones in the past is that they don't want to nerf what's working (In terms of power) and after a change they want you to be able to log in and do almost the same or more damage than what you could before. You should never feel weaker but always stronger.
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Kevmeister
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Nov 18 2014, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE(metalfreak @ Nov 18 2014, 04:21 PM) Don't believe a single crap they say. They've said so many things about their 'philosophy', and yet they have contradicted their actions more times than our government has spewed stupid accusations of Anwar's scandals.
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fabvader
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Nov 18 2014, 05:36 PM
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Yup.. Their philosophy is screwed.. Case and point is saders Roland set..
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nagflar
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Nov 18 2014, 06:40 PM
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i thinl dev are trying to 'balance' the games . only 2 class can solo GR 50 and abv. DH and FC Barb FC barb basicly depend on luck in finding conduit pylon. DH is the only class that op and really can solo abv GR50. poor Monk, crusader,WD , Wizard only able to solo GR early of 40. and non of these class can pass GR45+ damn i too late start DH cant enjoy the 'opness' This post has been edited by nagflar: Nov 18 2014, 08:26 PM
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Deckard Cain
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Nov 18 2014, 07:15 PM
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You know whats funny. That no party wil be able to farn high grift keys and no party will be able to progress above 45 without DHs dps. GG
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Vorador
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Nov 18 2014, 10:23 PM
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oh ya not to mention they nerf wizzard too, wtf blizzard!?
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nightshade_nova
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Nov 19 2014, 06:43 AM
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Wth...I just read blue post. They said that the new legendary gems are season 2 exclusive. What a turn off.
Was looking forward to try them together with the new set for tanky dh.
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skyp
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Nov 19 2014, 09:44 AM
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Helltrapper also nerfed?
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