Holy shiat... Nerfffff...

Greater rift feels so much easier...

My solo on live client only gr36, but on ptr can breeze to gr39 easily without death, end so fast the next gr +2 lvl

I know this is all irrelevant since stronger ppl will also be able to push even higher, but if I can get my gem upto lvl 50 will already feel so happy.


I reckon most people will be able to push 5-10 or even 15 higher gr level compared to their current best.


I also forget to mention, you could substitute preparation with marked for death for more dps or for hatred regen now that you only use either 1 generator + 1 spender or 2 spenders (kridershot/chakram quiver)

Im using the extra slot with the not-so-cost effective vengeance cos it looks cool.

So not so much as a nerf?

er so now u all stick to only 1 spender?

Heard that cluster arrow is OP now. (I was thinking for switching to lightning build)

I'm reading that CA doing 300m crit now.... Wow!!

All your Hatred spender is doing inflated damage simply because of the new change being:

(X + (X * 1.2)) * 2

For example, you're using CA:LfB. Initial damage of 770% is now:

(770% + (770% * 1.2)) * 2
(770% + 924%) * 2
1694% * 2
3388% <---- new total damage for CA:LfB when you have 3 Sentries out

sounds like time to go back to fire build, and take out my Bane of Trap gem...

Oh ya forgot to mention, sounds like time to bring back the Reduce cost instead of too much focus on CDR.

This post has been edited by Vorador: Nov 19 2014, 01:03 PM

Simplicity strength will also help now right?

what a buff for the M6..
i only use arcane barb, cindercoat, soj
lay down 3 sentries 1 shot the T6 elites with CA+LFB

its like Normal lvl already..
PTR GR manage to go till 41
normal server stuck at 36

lovin this update..
still didn't get any ancient legendary items yet

This post has been edited by DrLaboo: Nov 19 2014, 06:53 PM

Yep. Im leveling up the gem now, will see how it goes.

Btw, practical dps is not as simple as multiplicating the values, but the max damage is really legit.
You will also bump into issues such as aoe vs single target, and also projectiles being blocked by obstacles.
This is where you have to choose your spender/generator wisely according to your play style.

Since you need to set up the sentries first, you need to kinda find your rhythm of using generator and spender to maximize your resource to dps conversion. Timing of companion active usage is also important, you want to be using them only after you set up max amount of sentries and after you expand some hatred.

But after you set up 5 sentries (max with custom engineering+rucksack),
firing spender really feels satisfying!

All the sentries firing in unison with you, aesthetically feels better than old m6.

Overall, this is a better designed m6 compared to the old drop and run.

This post has been edited by nightshade_nova: Nov 19 2014, 06:56 PM

so this is how the Ancient Legendary max stats looks like..
shit rolls tho



This post has been edited by DrLaboo: Nov 19 2014, 08:08 PM

Yeah, with some proper setup+gear swapping. I did a 250m+ CA:LoB with the gear below


My first Ancient Legendary on PTR

Too bad Simplicity won't work with Kridershot and Seething Hatred xD

isnt better with cindercoat setup ?

Definitely better.

but my Marauder Glove sucks. So I have to use my almost-godly rolled Magefist instead

It says Primary skills, so it does not apply to all Hatred Spenders, even with the leg affix that converts them to generate Hatred.

Got lots of bugs in PTR... Even non Ancient got ancient stats... The xp and money bonus after trials is ridiculous..

Do you think the damage buff will get nerfed? Was doing 380m crit with zei stone + toxin + pet gem...

Ive set up a thread on the PTR feedback forum for a sentry counter to keep track of how many sentries you have so that it would be easier to keep up maximum dps without wasting hatred.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/15269209201

If you have the time, please do bump it up.

dude come LYN in PTR. we can go do some testing together hehe. i am with cindercoat + 5 m6. primary spender CA Fire. saw some incredible number u guys shud definitely try it.


my dusty cindercoat in stash for decade ~

walkin in the park in 45 could probaly go beyond that ,they will probaly nerf these.


can check out my build thru the screenshot. abit same method like lightning build. primary CA FIRE,Cold polar to proc CTW,
hungerin arrow or evasive fire for hatred regen, preparation for more hatred, ss or vault, companion.

This post has been edited by CyborgR: Nov 20 2014, 09:37 AM

previously it wasn't this strong? So actually, sentries doing more dmg now?