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post Apr 21 2015, 11:30 PM

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+add some point for Kevmeister's post

If you play seasonal DH, a UE6 Fire Multishot is also very viable for T6 speed run. You need a Dead Man's Legacy quiver (season 3 only)
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post Apr 21 2015, 11:37 PM

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ah yes, I am playing season.

how I wish I can get all 6 piece..so far only 2 pieces..

Thanks for the tips guys.
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post Apr 22 2015, 01:01 AM

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Ah yes, the revamped DML as well. That would work too (but I hate using MS lol).
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post Apr 22 2015, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Apr 21 2015, 11:37 PM)
ah yes, I am playing season.

how I wish I can get all 6 piece..so far only 2 pieces..

Thanks for the tips guys.
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Kev is very kind to list down the combos , give u 1 like thumbup.gif

need some time to kumpul DH sets, with rorg (ring of royal grandeur) from act 1 cache (bounty), rorg and decent gears can piew piew already in t6

for grifts, need to grind for gears lo

gl &hf ! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 22 2015, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Apr 21 2015, 11:37 PM)
ah yes, I am playing season.

how I wish I can get all 6 piece..so far only 2 pieces..

Thanks for the tips guys.
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add me up so I can share DH gear with you. I'm playing a seasonal DH myself. I've been just doing torment 6 speed rifts recently.

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post Apr 22 2015, 10:31 AM

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Question guys...


For GR, will a decent SoJ be better than an ancient ring(high dex, high Vit, Crit dmg more than 45% and Crit chance more then 5% with socket?


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That is my SoJ and those are my gear for my GR.


I have an ancient ring which I dont remember the exact figures but it has dex, vit, IF i'm not mistaken, got AR also. CD 46% and CC 5.5% and a socket.



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post Apr 22 2015, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(kwwk87 @ Apr 22 2015, 10:24 AM)
add me up so I can share DH gear with you. I'm playing a seasonal DH myself. I've been just doing torment 6 speed rifts recently.

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...t6 can speed rift ah sweat.gif
how much dmg do you require to kill comfortably in t6?

will add u once i get back from work today. thanks!


QUOTE(dolceping @ Apr 22 2015, 09:39 AM)
Kev is very kind to list down the combos , give u 1 like  thumbup.gif

need some time to kumpul DH sets,  with rorg (ring of royal grandeur) from act 1 cache (bounty), rorg and  decent gears can piew piew already in t6

for grifts, need to grind for gears lo

gl &hf ! biggrin.gif
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Indeed, I think we should add the combos to the first post, then everyone can view it, and wont have to ask same thing all over.

I believe the monk section listed builds, gears, etc. maybe we should do the same yeah?

This post has been edited by alexandros_18th: Apr 22 2015, 12:05 PM
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post Apr 22 2015, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Apr 22 2015, 12:04 PM)
how much dmg do you require to kill comfortably in t6?
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Hard to say because of eDPS,

but on paper dps should be around 750-800k..

This post has been edited by kwwk87: Apr 22 2015, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Apr 22 2015, 12:04 PM)
...t6 can speed rift ah sweat.gif
how much dmg do you require to kill comfortably in t6?

will add u once i get back from work today. thanks!
Indeed, I think we should add the combos to the first post, then everyone can view it, and wont have to ask same thing all over.

I believe the monk section listed builds, gears, etc. maybe we should do the same yeah?
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Must surpass 1m sheet DPS.... Even and M4 will suffice.
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post Apr 22 2015, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(Kevmeister @ Apr 21 2015, 08:59 PM)
You'd have to tell us exactly when you quit so we could tell you exactly what changed.

Basically, best sets for:

Solo play (up to T6, normal rifts):
Nat's or M6

Group play (up to T6):
Nat's, UE or M6

Solo play (Grifts):
UE or M6

Group play (Grifts):
Nat's, UE or M6

Core items for sets:

Nat's:
any parts + Nat's Slayer (+20 to 25% bonus to RoV) + [option 1: Pride's Fall] or [option 2: Hexing Pants]

M6:
[option 1: full set + Focus & Restraint] or [option 2: RoRG + 5 parts + 1 item of choice] + Bombardier's Rucksack

UE:
any parts + Chest piece (rolled with at least 10 Disc) + [option 1: Kridershot] or [option 2: Seething Spines of Hatred] <---- note: UE's damage is based on Disc, so fill every slot with Max Discipline rolled on that item. So far; cloaks, off-hand, all bows/xbows/1h-xbows, certain rings only rolls Max Discipline.

While results may vary and some might consider experimenting beyond these recommendations, these are the more friendly/common sets used for these situations.
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I actually found it easier to do high grifts with the new Nat set.

For G31 and below and T6 rifts, I gear my UE DH for speed run using Danetta's. Preferably Lightning build because it uses less resource.

For G40 and below, I gear my UE DH with Kridershot & Holy Point Shot with Cold. Easier to proc Bane of Trapped.

For G55 and below, I use Nat set with Icy Trail Cold build or with Anathema Fire build. Both is great, self preference. Icy Trail Cold build use Nat xbow + Calamity. Currently top DH G59 was achieved with Anathema Fire build with Nat xbow + Balefire Caster.

For G56 and above, I use UE DH with Kridershot + Meticulous Bolt and stack as much CDR and IAS as possible.

This post has been edited by Silverfire: Apr 22 2015, 10:37 PM
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post Apr 22 2015, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 22 2015, 10:27 PM)
I actually found it easier to do high grifts with the new Nat set.

For G31 and below and T6 rifts, I gear my UE DH for speed run using Danetta's. Preferably Lightning build because it uses less resource.

For G40 and below, I gear my UE DH with Kridershot & Holy Point Shot with Cold. Easier to proc Bane of Trapped.

For G55 and below, I use Nat set with Icy Trail Cold build or with Anathema Fire build. Both is great, self preference. Icy Trail Cold build use Nat xbow + Calamity. Currently top DH G59 was achieved with Anathema Fire build with Nat xbow + Balefire Caster.

For G56 and above, I use UE DH with Kridershot + Meticulous Bolt and stack as much CDR and IAS as possible.
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1. Group play vs Solo play are two additional variants on top of just Bounties, T1 - T6 rifts and Greater Rifts and thus, different sets would work/complement the given situations differently.
2. The suggestions I placed are gathered from General Discussions, Demon Hunter, self test in PTR and on live to produce said information.
3. Like my disclaimer, results may vary depending on situations (e.g. monster spawns, map layout, etc.)

This post has been edited by Kevmeister: Apr 22 2015, 11:05 PM
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post Apr 23 2015, 12:56 AM

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I managed to get mixed set items tonight..Too bad I sold my RORG earlier, else my damage would increase more.

Now I am on Nat Slayer and Ring, Spam RoV. M3 (shoulder, hand, feet), UE3 (head, torso, pants). Damage can reach 1M already when casting companion bonus 20%.

Need RORG!! @_@
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post Apr 23 2015, 10:16 AM

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finally got full set UE, tried GR39 kena pawned kow kow... cry.gif

May be I not used to this build, I see it shoot incredibly high dmg but resource is one big issue to me. (I really wonder how come I have no such issue in M6 build)


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post Apr 23 2015, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Apr 23 2015, 10:16 AM)
finally got full set UE, tried GR39 kena pawned kow kow... cry.gif

May be I not used to this build, I see it shoot incredibly high dmg but resource is one big issue to me. (I really wonder how come I have no such issue in M6 build)
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We all felt it sir. Is because m6 hav complete companion which usually tank lotsa mobs for us like a wall. N polar station everywhere slowin down make u can move around comfortably. Ue really tough. U all shud start to try nat. Crux had done 51 wit nat, i don have balefire caster replace wit non ancient cala, able to comfortly do 50 wit the nat build copyin world no.1 quirk build. Give it a shot guys.

Final verdict from myself experience after testing out nat(solo). Coz group definitely is still ue rules, ue is good when nothing disturbin u doing dmg. Nat set is whole new to me, once u get the ryhthm of evasive fire stutter shot 3-4 time ( while ww/strafe)> 1 rov. The few shot of evasive refill ur hatred and cd of rov( aim at mobs). Once u got the ryhthm done right, u just need to kite backward n blast rov(stampade knockbac proc strongarm)vs elite/rg, very simple. Boss fight never been easier wit nat. Is a very busy build nothing like any other before, u need to maintain FR, taeguk,hatred,discipline.but the fun factor i give it 5 star. smile.gif

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post Apr 23 2015, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(CyborgR @ Apr 23 2015, 10:22 AM)
We all felt it sir. Is because m6 hav complete companion which usually tank lotsa mobs for us like a wall. N polar station everywhere slowin down make u can move around comfortably. Ue really tough. U all shud start to try nat. Crux had done 51 wit nat, i don have balefire caster replace wit non ancient cala, able to comfortly do 50 wit the nat build copyin world no.1 quirk build. Give it a shot guys.

Final verdict from myself experience after testing out nat(solo). Coz group definitely is still ue rules, ue is good when nothing disturbin u doing dmg. Nat set is whole new to me, once u get the ryhthm of evasive fire stutter shot 3-4 time ( while ww/strafe)> 1 rov. The few shot of evasive refill ur hatred and cd of rov( aim at mobs). Once u got the ryhthm done right, u just need to kite backward n blast rov(stampade knockbac proc strongarm)vs elite/rg, very simple. Boss fight never been easier wit nat. Is a very busy build nothing like any other before, u need to maintain FR, taeguk,hatred,discipline.but the fun factor i give it 5 star. smile.gif
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Yes sir... I also got another one running Nat set, much better survivability and dmg output compare to my UE.

My Nat build is utilizing evasive fire + Strafe, keeping roll'n roll'n around mobs and casting ROV.

BTW it seems it's hard for me to get away from cold build, even my Nat build also cold... (I really want to play fire build but unable to take out COTW and Bane of trapped... rclxub.gif

edit: Oh BTW forgot to mention, I haven't collect Focus & Restraint... and my weapon still sux... (old version of Nat Slayer and lousy version of Calamity)

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post Apr 23 2015, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(Vorador @ Apr 23 2015, 11:00 AM)
Yes sir... I also got another one running Nat set, much better survivability and dmg output compare to my UE.

My Nat build is utilizing evasive fire + Strafe, keeping roll'n roll'n around mobs and casting ROV.

BTW it seems it's hard for me to get away from cold build, even my Nat build also cold... (I really want to play fire build but unable to take out COTW and Bane of trapped...  rclxub.gif

edit: Oh BTW forgot to mention, I haven't collect Focus & Restraint... and my weapon still sux... (old version of Nat Slayer and lousy version of Calamity)
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no problem. just grind it will come smile.gif . but at the same time u can still enjoy the fun of nat biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(alexandros_18th @ Apr 23 2015, 12:56 AM)
I managed to get mixed set items tonight..Too bad I sold my RORG earlier, else my damage would increase more.

Now I am on Nat Slayer and Ring, Spam RoV. M3 (shoulder, hand, feet), UE3 (head, torso, pants). Damage can reach 1M already when casting companion bonus 20%.

Need RORG!! @_@
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What's your battletag? You can add me, I can help you farm for items smile.gif Mine is Cruxiaer#6604

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post Apr 23 2015, 03:05 PM

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a demo vid of the nat game play in 49. u can skip the gameplay and watch how easy it is to boss fight smile.gif. sorry for low qua, don know what i set. its a very busy build XD but fun seriously

hope u guy can get the idea on how to manage the hatred n cd of rov. once u get it is a piece of cake. by far i can said the best build for dh solo, rg fight never been easier then these nat build.



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post Apr 23 2015, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 23 2015, 12:11 PM)
What's your battletag? You can add me, I can help you farm for items smile.gif Mine is Cruxiaer#6604
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My battle tag is Illidan#6344

Here's my s3 char: us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Illidan-6344/hero/60320687

Will add you tonite. Was waiting for kwwk87 last night but he went online at +- 1 AM, going to sleep d liao.
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post Apr 24 2015, 10:40 AM

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oh shit...so THAT iS STRAFE lol. crap man..been using DH for so long, I personally haven't used it

So from the video, u can use strafe AND evasive fire at the same time ah?

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