From a far distance it looks pretty convincing.

Probably quite useful for trolling Japanese & ROC air defense systems. Some calls to the Pentagon would be made before the confusion could be cleared up.

Wouldn't surprise me though if China already have a good understanding on Apache capabilities, history shows some secret deals were made with certain countries. Notable was with Israel in the past regarding Israel selling some sensitive data including Patriot missile technology to China. I seem to recall last year Finnish authorities seized a British-flagged ship bound for Shanghai which had a hidden load of 69 Patriot missiles.

Chinese delegation in front of the IAI Lavi prototype. Fourth man from right is Song Wencong - chief designer of the J-10.

Probably quite useful for trolling Japanese & ROC air defense systems. Some calls to the Pentagon would be made before the confusion could be cleared up.

Wouldn't surprise me though if China already have a good understanding on Apache capabilities, history shows some secret deals were made with certain countries. Notable was with Israel in the past regarding Israel selling some sensitive data including Patriot missile technology to China. I seem to recall last year Finnish authorities seized a British-flagged ship bound for Shanghai which had a hidden load of 69 Patriot missiles.

Guys do u all think buying kora class corvette from india is gd idea??  basically an enlarged version of vietnam molniya missile spam boat, 16 kh35 missile with 130km range, if conflict rly happen i think like 12 of these missile spam corvettes would be more scary than 6 sgpvs, and wikipedia say each ship 40million usd(wtf) but i think that is outdated prices and may or may not include weapons. and its indian, indian relationship w china not that good i think. so, gud idea??   

Guys do u all think buying kora class corvette from india is gd idea??  basically an enlarged version of vietnam molniya missile spam boat, 16 kh35 missile with 130km range, if conflict rly happen i think like 12 of these missile spam corvettes would be more scary than 6 sgpvs, and wikipedia say each ship 40million usd(wtf) but i think that is outdated prices and may or may not include weapons. and its indian, indian relationship w china not that good i think. so, gud idea??   

The missile stole center stage at Malaysia's Defense Services Asia exhibition, with high-profile potential customers including South Africa, Egypt, Oman, Brunei and other African and Middle Eastern countries.

Defense Talk reported this month that India was considering exporting the BrahMos to Chile, Brazil, South Africa and Indonesia. The keenest interest, however, has come from Malaysia, which is looking for a new weapons system to fit its Meko A100 Kedah class ships.

BrahMos’s Market Promotion General Manager, Praveen Pathak, told KLS’s journalist that BrahMos has already been doing assessment on ship body of Meko 100. The result is BrahMos is suitable to be installed on it.

Currently, the Indian Navy has installed BrahMos on her naval ship with inclined launch style which is different from western style. Whether BrahMos could be installed in crossover style, Praveen Pathak answered that it is certainly no problem!

He said BrahMos has already done an assessment on it that there is no problem to develop crossover style launcher, BrahMos can be designed and integrated according to customer requirement. But, the problem now is Malaysian government hasn’t made any official requirement to install missile on NGPV.

BrahMos is a multipurpose supersonic anti-ship missile and suitable be installed on 500 ton, 1000 ton and 2000 ton above warships. There is no problem to integrate BrahMos into western standard ship. But, 500 ton missile fast attack boat is not suitable to install vertical launch BrahMos system.

Guys do u all think buying kora class corvette from india is gd idea??  basically an enlarged version of vietnam molniya missile spam boat, 16 kh35 missile with 130km range, if conflict rly happen i think like 12 of these missile spam corvettes would be more scary than 6 sgpvs, and wikipedia say each ship 40million usd(wtf) but i think that is outdated prices and may or may not include weapons. and its indian, indian relationship w china not that good i think. so, gud idea??   

2 JMSDF (Japan Navy) destroyers at sepangar base today..... soccer match this evening

which class?

I am expecting the question.....aku baca signal hari jumaat lepas so dah lupa nama ape..... but 2 different classes.

baca signal?

u inside sub now kah?

I am expecting the question.....aku baca signal hari jumaat lepas so dah lupa nama ape..... but 2 different classes.

I think it would be better to have strategic partner like india more than pakistan bcos afterall india gonna be 3rd largest economy and much more weapons systems, plus ive always thought we were closer to india than pakistan

Imagine what would happen if we hijack their sub at night and force the crew to teach us how to operate the sub then steal both subs haha

but turkey military industry seems small compared to india, economy oso

tat why turkey all joint venture

their tanks with korea, K2 Black Panther

AV8 and adnan is also join venture between turkey and FNSS

even SAM either china or russia

Work on the Altay project began in August 2008 at the Otokar factory and is projected for completion in 2016. Otokar will develop four prototypes for testing. Altay will use the technology systems developed for the South Korean K2 MBT by Hyundai Rotem. Serial production will begin after successful testing of the prototypes. Turkey will own the design and intellectual property rights.

Altay main battle tank design and features

The tank will have a conventional layout. The power pack will be in the rear, driver seating in the front and fighting compartment in the middle. The loader will be on the left side of the turret, while the commander will sit on the right side of the turret. The gunner will sit on the same side as the commander but in a more forward and lower position.

Altay will have the stronger chassis characteristics of the K2 Black Panther MBT. It will have a re-designed Turkish turret and heavier armour than the K2. It will also have seven tracked wheels and a longer hull. A decision on the suspension system and other systems has yet to be finalised.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/altaymainbattletank/

I don't think the K2 Black Panther is a JV between SK & Turkey. On the contrary the Turkish new Altay MBT is based from the K2 Black Panther.

But imagine some country whole cbg come visit then we hijack, wat they can do

I saying JV as in joint development and purchase. The K2 is still not fully ready yet but field initial low production to satisfy public opinion  , there still some teething issues. Part of the deals also again if i not mistaken is information sharing between turkey and SK armor development

iinm, their tank will be based on the K2 such as the hull and loader mechanism including parts of the fire control system

the turret will be indigenously designed including guns (Most likely licensed produced Rheinmetall L55 similar to the one on K2)

turkey was interested with the TYPE 10 engine pack but Japan does not want to export it. The original K2 engine pack still having transmission issues plus unreliable. Therefore, they still have to relies on germans MTU
more of what we can do defend ourself if they send their forces come here

S. Korea extends troubled K-2 combat tank project

2013/10/11 14:14

By Kim Eun-jung

SEOUL, Oct. 11 (Yonhap) -- The arms procurement agency on Friday extended its project to develop indigenous battle tank K-2 by the end of next year to buy more time to fix technical problems found in its engine and transmission.

The Defense Acquisition Program Administration (DAPA) approved the plan to postpone by six months the June 2014 deadline to complete development of the engine and transmission, known as the power pack.

The decision comes as the tank's main parts have repeatedly failed to meet the military's requirements due to faulty parts.

The battle tank development project worth more than 2 trillion won (US$1.84 billion) first began in 2006 after a decade of research and development to replace the earlier versions, including the K1 and aging U.S.-built M48 tanks.

But a series of technical problems have been detected in the power pack, hindering the original plan of deploying it starting in 2016.

After the Korean-made parts failed the tests three times, there were rising calls to import German power packs for the battle tank. But the South Korean government decided to extend the testing period again in apparent concern over the costly state program, sparking criticism of being too lenient on local companies.

Modeled after the German-developed MTU-890, the K2 power pack is made up of 1,500-horsepower diesel engine and transmission. Doosan Infracore and S&T Dynamics are the two main developers of the homegrown power pack, out of the more than 1,000 subcontractors in South Korea.

The new tank features an auto-loaded 120mm cannon, which reaches speeds of up to 70 kilometers per hour and can cross rivers as deep as 4.1 meters using a snorkel, according to DAPA.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/full/2013/...004400315F.html