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thpace
post Sep 7 2014, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 7 2014, 12:25 AM)
actually for MBT turbine engine more high fuel consumption than diesel engine, M1A1 Turbine engine fuel consumtion 380L/100km vs Leopard 2A just around 230L/100km.
but turbine have alot advantage, it get full engine power after turbine engine start, just like jet engine, good for acceleration and speed,  disadvantage is more complex maintenance,high fuel consumption,hot engine, also low lifespan for Turbine engine。 
but diesel engine just get  full power at max rpm. in low speed, diesel engine get better fuel consumption. 
it all about cost. us not border fuel cost.
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the turbine T-80 was hated by the russian due to poor on site maintenance capabilities and kuat makan minyak, in end they swap for traditional diesel

US also canot afford ad, there on budget report back in 2012 iinm saying reduce on board time on M1 during training to lower fuel consumption. That why, get more tank simulator to replace real training
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post Sep 7 2014, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 7 2014, 12:32 AM)
the turbine T-80 was hated by the russian due to poor on site maintenance capabilities and kuat makan minyak, in end they swap for traditional diesel 

US also canot afford ad, there on budget report back in 2012 iinm saying reduce on board time on M1 during training to lower fuel consumption. That why, get more tank simulator to replace real training
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in 1970~2000, low oil cost so world military not much border fuel cost.
after 2005 world trend go for efficiency after price oil go up, yes, US also start cut cost, they mil budget not increasing, so have to cut military equipment or more efficiency equipment, also operation.

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post Sep 7 2014, 01:57 AM

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got read news PM Najib said receive propose for Sea-base for esccom cost RM 200 million each.
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post Sep 7 2014, 08:29 PM

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DAMEN construction progress of the Indonesian Navy's Sigma PKR 10514. (credit to the original uploader).

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post Sep 8 2014, 12:25 AM

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do u guys have any videos of the merdeka parade?
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post Sep 8 2014, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(junchuan @ Sep 7 2014, 09:32 PM)
What happen to philippine frigate acquisition?? So long still no news??
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i remember few shipyard company shortlisted in 2nd round. anyway there usd 410 million budget for target 2 frigate with all system and support, maybe a bit Wishful thinking, maybe can, very old or built by 2nd level shipyard company with low spec (cheap price) or civilian hull.

pass 1st round shipyard
Navantia Sepi (RTR Ventures) of Spain,
South Korean contractors STX Offshore and Shipbuilding,
Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering Co. Ltd.
Hyundai Heavy Industries,

but news say Philipine accept 2 more to join bidding
India state-owned Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers, Ltd.
STX France

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post Sep 8 2014, 08:18 AM

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Pics of PLA SF training with Russian SF in mechanized MOUT operations in a full-scale urban simulation training area at Zhurihe, Inner Mongolia.

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post Sep 8 2014, 08:57 AM

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NORINCO unveils new MBT for export market

The Chinese defense firm NORINCO has unveiled a new advanced Gen 3 MBT, the MBT-3000. The tank,which is a development of the Type 99 MBT in PLA service,is said to have brought to the standard of advanced western gen 3 tank such as the Lepoard 2, Challenger 2 and LeClerc Main Battle Tanks.

The MBT-3000 is armed with a 125mm smoothbore cannon that can fire various shells and is able to fire tube-launched ATGMs. It is protected by a new ceramic armor set in modular 'bricks' to enhance flexibility. A new digital FCS computer, first seen on the Type-59G upgrade, is used in conjunction with an all-weather thermographic sighting system and the tank is fitted with a 1300hp turbodiesel engine.

The MBT-3000 is produced for the export market and some Middle eastern and African countries have shown an interest,although no confirmed orders are as yet been received by NORINCO.

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Front view of MBT-3000

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post Sep 8 2014, 09:46 AM

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hey hey....what do we have here??

AH-64 Apache appears in China? I wonder where it came from?

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post Sep 8 2014, 09:49 AM

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i think this picture was taken in ROC Taiwan..not PRC

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post Sep 8 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(afh_sho @ Sep 8 2014, 09:49 AM)
i think this picture was taken in ROC Taiwan..not PRC
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I'm not sure myself. I am posting it because it appears in a PRC-registered blog site.If can understand the car number plate of the car on the foreground,maybe we can confirm? Can anyone say the car has Taiwan or China plate number?

Edit: Just researched, car plate number is indeed PRC car plate style. So can safely be confirm this pic is taken in China.


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post Sep 8 2014, 10:01 AM

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post Sep 8 2014, 10:09 AM

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if so, i wonder why the US have not gone ape over this..there's a lot of secret material and technology inside an Apache

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post Sep 8 2014, 10:13 AM

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The picture from last year. It's a mock model to be display in National Defense educational Base.
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post Sep 8 2014, 10:17 AM

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Another unknown/weird acquisition, a Bundeswehr-marked Leopard 2A6 seen on a transport lorry somewhere in China. Some sources say it is a mock-up built on top of a Chinese tank chassis. Wonder what's the real story here?

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post Sep 8 2014, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 8 2014, 09:46 AM)
hey hey....what do we have here??

AH-64 Apache appears in China? I wonder where it came from?

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It's an old photo of a AH-64 Apache mock-up for a Chinese defence park.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-W9Gb75-n...40/PICtemp1.jpg

http://www.zhxww.net/zhnews4075/upfile/201...718101240-0.jpg

And another one in Beijing & China Aviation Museum:

http://www.lockonaviation.net/html/showphoto.php?id=893
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post Sep 8 2014, 11:16 AM

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Posted: 03 Sep 2014, 2100 hours (GMT +8)

Singapore and Chinese Navies Conduct Bilateral Naval Exercise

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RSS Intrepid (background) participating in a bilateral naval exercise with Yulin.

The Republic of Singapore Navy (RSN) Formidable-class frigate RSS Intrepid and the People's Liberation Army (Navy) (PLA(N)) Jiangkai II-class frigate Yulin conducted a bilateral naval exercise today. The exercise comprised naval helicopter cross-deck landings, manoeuvring drills and gunnery firings.

Prior to the exercise, RSS Intrepid conducted a port call at Ma Xie Naval Base in Zhanjiang, China, from 30 August to 3 September 2014. During the port call, RSS Intrepid hosted a reception for personnel from the PLA(N) South Sea Fleet. In addition, personnel of both navies engaged in exercise planning and ship visits.

Chief of Navy Rear-Admiral Lai Chung Han was also in China for a working visit from 1 to 3 September 2014, in conjunction with the port call. He earlier met with the PLA(N)'s Political Commissar Admiral Liu Xiaojiang and Commander of PLA(N) South Sea Fleet Vice-Admiral Jiang Weilie in Beijing and Zhanjiang respectively.

Singapore and China enjoy warm and friendly defence ties. The professional and personal interactions at the leadership and working levels have enhanced mutual understanding and friendship between the RSN and the PLA(N).


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post Sep 8 2014, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 8 2014, 11:06 AM)
It's an old photo of a AH-64 Apache mock-up for a Chinese defence park.
Pretty convincing mock-up,notwithstanding. Wonder if they ever decide to put in a flight system & engine and fly it around east China Sea just for sh*ts and giggles.

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post Sep 8 2014, 11:36 AM

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Indonesian Navy KRI Bung Tomo (357) greeted & escorted by KRI Oswald Siahaan (354) as she arrives in Indonesian waters near Rondo Island.

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post Sep 8 2014, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 8 2014, 11:27 AM)
Pretty convincing mock-up,notwithstanding. Wonder if they ever decide to put in a flight system & engine and fly it around east China Sea just for sh*ts and giggles.
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From a far distance it looks pretty convincing. biggrin.gif

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