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post Sep 5 2014, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Sep 5 2014, 02:13 PM)
MP means how much light it allows to go in. The more light the better. Still you need to factor the compression rate, low quality means very high compression. High quality means low compression. Its like the ohm's law, if you know what that is , tongue.gif
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Whatever MP mean is not important. A higher quality picture must have better resolution or better pixel per inch or both and the lower quality picture is the opposite way, so the end of the day high setting always mean more pixel per inch or better resolution or both and low setting always mean the opposite. And usually the size also different. high quality photo = bigger size and low quality photo = opposite.

But nvm la no matter what i guess no need to keep on argue on this one. You win icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(yibaandre @ Sep 5 2014, 02:13 PM)
Xperia - start with X
X8:- start with X
Xiaomi - start with X

its destiny bro
btw you get refund already from lazada for 1s?
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Ya wo ho .. no wonder i always has a feeling that i actually someone important, now i realize i actually secret agent xXx laugh.gif
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But then you know la, secret agent only good in gunfighting & women & driving but no good in fedex tracking so whats is this mean ?? Am i going to get my phone today ?? Or tomorrow ??
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Also i not yet get refund from Lazada. I call them yestermorning and they instruct me to print out their return form and fill in all the detail and go pos back to them; Say once they receive the phone and check ok i will get the refund include the pos charge .. they should receive the phone right now .. i send by poslaju yesterday around 12pm and their warehouse is in subang jaya.

I think i should call them to make sure everything goes smooth before i start my 1st xXx mission sweat.gif

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QUOTE(bluecat68 @ Sep 5 2014, 12:12 PM)
Also what is this ??
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Estimated to delivery at 15th of Sep ?? 10 days later ?? Send using rocket from China to malaysia and then using bicycle to send from Sepang to my place is it ??  rclxub.gif
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Relax... Just estimated delivery date. Once reach Sepang.. shd be around 2 or 3 working days
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QUOTE(bluecat68 @ Sep 5 2014, 11:55 AM)
No joke .. see this:
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Send by rocket ??  hmm.gif
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Electronic documentation update at Fedex system
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I am still on original stock V27 ROM and thinking to upgrade to V37 via OTA. Is there anything "bad" or bugs on V37 compared to V27? Thanks. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(ronaldkwok @ Sep 5 2014, 02:56 PM)
To all Sifus here,
I am still on original stock V27 ROM and thinking to upgrade to V37 via OTA. Is there anything "bad" or bugs on V37 compared to V27? Thanks. notworthy.gif
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Remember to do backup for v27 as it no longer dowgradeable.
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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Sep 5 2014, 03:00 PM)
Remember to do backup for v27 as it no longer dowgradeable.
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How to do the backup???
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For those who first time buy xiaomi (regardless of any product):

1. Do not trust, angry or panic on Fedex/UPS estimated delivery date - Those are for reference, their system need estimated date and in most case you will receive your parcel much earlier than estimated delivery date. Unless some incident like parcel missing, no people at home during delivery time.... bla bla bla...

2. Status:
Fedex:
Package available for clearance (most case u can self collect) - Correct me if I am wrong, never try collect myself
On FedEx vehicle for delivery (u will get your parcel within same day)

UPS:
- not much info about UPS but most time it will took 2 to 3 working days once arcel arrived at Sepang

3. Status showing your parcel flying around travelling diff country - Relax, you will get your parcel eventually

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QUOTE(WeSLeY @ Sep 5 2014, 03:10 PM)
For those who first time buy xiaomi (regardless of any product):

1. Do not trust, angry or panic on Fedex/UPS estimated delivery date - Those are for reference, their system need estimated date and in most case you will receive your parcel must earlier than estimated delivery date. Unless some incident like parcel missing, no people at home during delivery time.... bla bla bla...

2. Status:
Fedex:
Package available for clearance (most case u can self collect) - Correct me if I am wrong, never try collect myself
On FedEx vehicle for delivery (u will get your parcel within same day)

UPS:
- not much info about UPS but most time it will took 2 to 3 working days once arcel arrived at Sepang

3. Status showing your parcel flying around travelling diff country - Relax, you will get your parcel eventually
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Sep 5 2014, 12:43 PM)
Lately there was no adrenaline rush because they had enough stocks for hours laugh.gif

Lazada has replied that they are forwarding my case to the responsible department, and GDEx is trying it yet again... I think if they give it up again I will have to drive there...
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QUOTE(suntzulee @ Sep 5 2014, 01:27 PM)
yeah exactly what i felt weeks agao...no more thrilling...sigh
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i think every1 knows their strategy d. selling their handphones initially by offering limited stock to build up the hype. but a few weeks later, when the supply more than demand, they will open it for preorder and with even more freebies. a trend is setting here.
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About which contact backup apps is good ?
I tried a few contact backup but when I restore it didn't show which Sim1 or Sim2 caller and call was done with an empty small box.

Which backup tools for contact and call and sms which show sim1 or sim2 output ?


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Since I just received the 1S I could test the camera. It will always take 8 MP photos, no matter if low, standard or high is set. It is just how much it compresses the photo that is different.

The GDex boy btw. forgot the phone on his motorbike... had to go down again to fetch it. laugh.gif He was friendly though. I really wonder why it took them so many attempts to deliver it though, because it's not like he could have delivered a lot of packages on his bike.

QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Sep 5 2014, 02:13 PM)
Lol. Jking lah.
They should release a Mi4 Mini for  700 . would be sold out like hotcakes
Lol, are you using redmi note? Lol
MP means how much light it allows to go in. The more light the better. Still you need to factor the compression rate, low quality means very high compression. High quality means low compression. Its like the ohm's law, if you know what that is , tongue.gif
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I disagree. People usually seem to like big things... especially when it comes to phones.

As for MP etc... I'm afraid you're wrong. The sensor size and the sensor design determines how much light goes in. Some sensors need to have quite some space between each pixel, some get them more closely together. Every pixel is able to collect a certain amount of light. How big the pixels are thus depends on the number of pixels (the more pixels, the smaller they have to be for a given sensor size), how big the sensor is (in a phone it's usually somewhere between 1/6" and 1/2.3", the high end Nokia camera phones go up to 1/1.5" or even 4/3" I believe... not sure now. DSLRs are much, much bigger than that) and how the sensor design is (backlit sensors are better, because the electronics are on the other side, older sensors had all the electronics at the side where light hits the sensor, thus losing a lot of space). The bigger the pixels are, the better will the phone perform in low light situations. That is why Sony's A7S is basically a night vision goggle, it sees more light than your eyes do! Huge sensor, only 12 MP, and a modern sensor design. It is amazing.

Unfortunately in camera modules for phones, lower resolution sensors are usually smaller too (case in point 8 MP Sony sensors tend to have around 1/4", 13 MP Sony sensors around 1/3" and 20 MP Sony sensors should be around 1/2.3" I'd guess. In the end, pixel size stays more or less the same... a 6 MP 1/2.3" sensor would be pretty good in the dark). The HTC One is an exception there. Btw., the bigger the sensor, the bigger the lens has to be too, leading to bulky camera modules. We could have so much better cameras if we were willing to sacrifice slimness. Then finally there's the thing about aperture... the wider open it gets, the more shallow depth of field we get, and the more light is collected for the sensor. (f2.0 is better than f2.8). Means bigger lenses though.

The part of compression is right though. Low quality = high compression = when you zoom in it's a blurry mess with artefacts, where the same photo at high would be sharp and clean.

Back to the test I've done earlier: Same photo, more or less, at low 580 kB, standard is 1.05 MB and high is 2.66 MB.

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Sep 5 2014, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Sep 5 2014, 04:08 PM)
Back to the test I've done earlier: Same photo, more or less, at low 580 kB, standard is 1.05 MB and high is 2.66 MB.
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Exactly. No matter what MP mean or what compression do actually doesnt matter. The result is still the same. Higher the setting of the picture always mean more pixel inside the photo hence mean sharper but bigger size and lower quality mean less pixel but also smaller size.

So High/normal/low is for us to choose higher quality but use more storage space or lower quality but save more storage space.
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QUOTE(ptrfaith91 @ Sep 5 2014, 02:18 PM)
I have been using the 1s for 2 weeks now it was very fine till 2 days ago when I was browsing through Instagram suddenly the phone just hanged for no reason. Tried to shut it down also cannot in the end have to pull out the battery. After putting the battery back and switched on again everything is fine till now. Any idea what could have been the problem? Just a minor glitch or would it occur again?
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Try clean reinstalling your phone's firmware.

QUOTE(bluecat68 @ Sep 5 2014, 02:31 PM)
Whatever MP mean is not important. A higher quality picture must have better resolution or better pixel per inch or both and the lower quality picture is the opposite way, so the end of the day high setting always mean more pixel per inch or better resolution or both and low setting always mean the opposite. And usually the size also different. high quality photo = bigger size and low quality photo = opposite.

But nvm la no matter what i guess no need to keep on argue on this one. You win  icon_rolleyes.gif
Ya wo ho .. no wonder i always has a feeling that i actually someone important, now i realize i actually secret agent xXx  laugh.gif
user posted image

But then you know la, secret agent only good in gunfighting & women & driving but no good in fedex tracking so whats is this mean ?? Am i going to get my phone today ?? Or tomorrow ??
user posted image

Also i not yet get refund from Lazada. I call them yestermorning and they instruct me to print out their return form and fill in all the detail and go pos back to them; Say once they receive the phone and check ok i will get the refund include the pos charge .. they should receive the phone right now .. i send by poslaju yesterday around 12pm and their warehouse is in subang jaya.

I think i should call them to make sure everything goes smooth before i start my 1st xXx mission  sweat.gif
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It's a tie. Anyways, prevent talking about shippings or other unrelated content here. There's a discussion thread in /k. This thread is for technical discussion only

QUOTE(WeSLeY @ Sep 5 2014, 02:55 PM)
Relax... Just estimated delivery date. Once reach Sepang.. shd be around 2 or 3 working days
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Should be 1 working day. At least for me.

QUOTE(ronaldkwok @ Sep 5 2014, 02:56 PM)
To all Sifus here,
I am still on original stock V27 ROM and thinking to upgrade to V37 via OTA. Is there anything "bad" or bugs on V37 compared to V27? Thanks. notworthy.gif
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Do a NANDROID backip before you do so.
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QUOTE(bluecat68 @ Sep 5 2014, 11:55 AM)
No joke .. see this:
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Send by rocket ??  hmm.gif
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want to ask, for new phone to install sp need to use the cleaning wipes? or just apply since new phone very clean?

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Sep 5 2014, 03:40 PM)
About which contact backup apps is good ?
I tried a few contact backup but when I restore it didn't show which Sim1 or Sim2 caller and call was done with an empty small box.

Which backup tools for contact and call and sms which show sim1 or sim2 output ?
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Use Google account to sync.

QUOTE(kadajawi @ Sep 5 2014, 04:08 PM)
Since I just received the 1S I could test the camera. It will always take 8 MP photos, no matter if low, standard or high is set. It is just how much it compresses the photo that is different.

The GDex boy btw. forgot the phone on his motorbike... had to go down again to fetch it. laugh.gif He was friendly though. I really wonder why it took them so many attempts to deliver it though, because it's not like he could have delivered a lot of packages on his bike.
I disagree. People usually seem to like big things... especially when it comes to phones.

As for MP etc... I'm afraid you're wrong. The sensor size and the sensor design determines how much light goes in. Some sensors need to have quite some space between each pixel, some get them more closely together. Every pixel is able to collect a certain amount of light. How big the pixels are thus depends on the number of pixels (the more pixels, the smaller they have to be for a given sensor size), how big the sensor is (in a phone it's usually somewhere between 1/6" and 1/2.3", the high end Nokia camera phones go up to 1/1.5" or even 4/3" I believe... not sure now. DSLRs are much, much bigger than that) and how the sensor design is (backlit sensors are better, because the electronics are on the other side, older sensors had all the electronics at the side where light hits the sensor, thus losing a lot of space). The bigger the pixels are, the better will the phone perform in low light situations. That is why Sony's A7S is basically a night vision goggle, it sees more light than your eyes do! Huge sensor, only 12 MP, and a modern sensor design. It is amazing.

Unfortunately in camera modules for phones, lower resolution sensors are usually smaller too (case in point 8 MP Sony sensors tend to have around 1/4", 13 MP Sony sensors around 1/3" and 20 MP Sony sensors should be around 1/2.3" I'd guess. In the end, pixel size stays more or less the same... a 6 MP 1/2.3" sensor would be pretty good in the dark). The HTC One is an exception there. Btw., the bigger the sensor, the bigger the lens has to be too, leading to bulky camera modules. We could have so much better cameras if we were willing to sacrifice slimness. Then finally there's the thing about aperture... the wider open it gets, the more shallow depth of field we get, and the more light is collected for the sensor. (f2.0 is better than f2.8). Means bigger lenses though.

The part of compression is right though. Low quality = high compression = when you zoom in it's a blurry mess with artefacts, where the same photo at high would be sharp and clean.

Back to the test I've done earlier: Same photo, more or less, at low 580 kB, standard is 1.05 MB and high is 2.66 MB.
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Thank you for clarifying smile.gif

QUOTE(bluecat68 @ Sep 5 2014, 04:21 PM)
Exactly. No matter what MP mean or what compression do actually doesnt matter. The result is still the same. Higher the setting of the picture always mean more pixel inside the photo hence mean sharper but bigger size and lower quality mean less pixel but also smaller size.

So High/normal/low is for us to choose higher quality but use more storage space or lower quality but save more storage space.
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QUOTE(yibaandre @ Sep 5 2014, 04:48 PM)
want to ask, for new phone to install so need to use the cleaning wipes? or just apply since new phone very clean?
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Just wipe the screen lol. No harm doing that
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QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Sep 5 2014, 04:44 PM)
Try clean reinstalling your phone's firmware.
It's a tie. Anyways, prevent talking about shippings or other unrelated content here. There's a discussion thread in /k. This thread is for technical discussion only
Should be 1 working day. At least for me.
Do a NANDROID backip before you do so.
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2 or 3 days buffer so wont be so disappointed tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Anonymous34 @ Sep 5 2014, 04:44 PM)
Try clean reinstalling your phone's firmware.
Sorry I am a noob noob here only know how to call and message and play game with phone...how do I actually do that? Which version of firmware is currently the most stable one? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(bluecat68 @ Sep 5 2014, 04:21 PM)
Exactly. No matter what MP mean or what compression do actually doesnt matter. The result is still the same. Higher the setting of the picture always mean more pixel inside the photo hence mean sharper but bigger size and lower quality mean less pixel but also smaller size.

So High/normal/low is for us to choose higher quality but use more storage space or lower quality but save more storage space.
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Erm, I'm afraid no. You get the same amount of pixels, it just may lack some details, look smudged etc.. But the resolution stays the same. If you save a photo at half the resolution, but so that it reaches the same file size, the result will look different. Especially when you zoom in to 100% on the full resolution low quality photo, and zoom in to the same point (200% I guess?) on the half resolution (2 instead of 8 MP I think) high quality photo. Huge difference.

I thought that /k/ thread was deleted? hmm.gif

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