Wong Seafood,

I was reading CIMBC25 coincidently before your post- they recently change name to CIMBC50.

somore there not distribution yet.. Do you tink is good without distribution ?

their price range 0.891 - 1.10- now 1.035


if i use chart lowet point showsmwhere 0.96 (line plot using klse.i3investor) maybe go back home use chart nexus to map.


what you think ? furthermore they hv increase to 50company i still checking what their 50 listed company.

somemore i download the supplement prospetus
there link to FTSE site are not found.

This post has been edited by felixmask: Oct 2 2014, 03:19 PM


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ETF distributions are similar effect with mutual funds distribution leh
no effect in VALUE held in units+cash

On CIMBC25-->CIMBC50:
a. yeah noticed too (too used to calling it C25, last time X25 - why can't they stop changing the bloody counter name )
b. anyhow, i'll be value-averaging in this month (every 4 mths)
and yes, i noticed i'll be using LESS cash since the value held is higher than calculated/expected.
c. Future? no idea going higher or lower.
read http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archiv...0/01/2003600957 - supposedly will boost Shanghai-HK shares wor.. dunno lar, no crystal balls
All i know for sure is:
1. Keep on keeping on (with my plan)
2. When kaka happens and all hell breaks lose (lelong), buy more & keep
3. Rinse and repeat

if they dont hv distribution..then only way i want to buy is measure the lowest point they fall.


somore when i check size of share holder ot much changes...not volatile.
PE china is low...but i aim for distribution..becoz some of their stock porflio hv good dividend payout.


what the price you holding.....

1) what is your plan "Keep on keeping on (with my plan)" ????
2. "When kaka happens and all hell breaks lose (lelong), buy more & keep" -what the price bu more ???

1) what is your plan "Keep on keeping on (with my plan)" ????
er.. value-averaging every 4 months (coz using EPF $)

2) "When kaka happens and all hell breaks lose (lelong), buy more & keep" -what the price bu more ???
When the price falls below 15% of my total average holding cost price (holding's total cost / total units)

What price i'm holding?
er.. several price points coz went in many times liao
Average holding price though is $0.96 per unit

Side note - i noticed my CIMBA40 has distribution but that China animal no distribution (doing both via EPF ma)

er.. er.. sorry ar Mods.. getting too deep into non-FSM thing

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Oct 2 2014, 03:45 PM

I prefer investments with capital+income return lor

Use the income, let the capital (gains) snowball

remind mine two unit trust....PCSF and RHB-OSK Asian Real Estate Fund.

Both fund is mine 1st fund i bought before 2007- stagant and lifeless animal;


Topup up few time..give up...like buying a chicken cannot lay golden egg....chicken get older hard to sell back to market.

Reminder do not buy non distribution fund.

This post has been edited by felixmask: Oct 2 2014, 03:53 PM

Eh eh eh

don't get this started again

distribution in UT/ETF =/= dividend from stocks

wongmunkeong sifu, pls rescue felix the cat from that Roulette Pusseh's curse

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 2 2014, 03:56 PM

er... my CIMBC50 profits > CIMBA40 (including distribution) wor..
and i'm talking about nearly DOUBLE in $ + more in %pa

thus.. whatcha mean don't buy non-distribution fund?
going RO *****-style?

No choice la bro, i rather be cautious (maybe too overly already).
Still remember your good old PB bonds recommendation those days; PBFI, PBIBF..etc

Probably, WB's quote have been impounding in my mind for too long, especially when market's high

Money's hard to come by, i've got burnt before, and have recovered since, thus, i'm more conservative now

Even WB doesnt sell all and run wor
TESCO & WB: http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/23/investing/...-buffett-tesco/

Misinterpretation gua?

i mean got distribution..can snowball...

then buy little bit....see...increase unit..

but didnt give distribution fund..like timing when to buy(when hell fire happen) pray it was usper low...not like distribution..regular topup some..time to time.

i hv share mine 2 fund PCSF and RHB-OSK Asian Real Estate fund...

pls look at the price...like dead fish..pump/topup/CPR to the fund is still chicken cant lay egg for me...

And summore this OLD chicken is still BELOW the INITAL price is launch. I bought at wrong timing.

Like buying rm 50sen...now only rm 38sen stagant for so long..without laying egg..

Do you still want to feed/toup/buy more/keep more the this CHICKEN ?

versus buying chicken can lay egg..like fund can give distribution. which one is better.

This post has been edited by felixmask: Oct 2 2014, 04:11 PM

Please read Post #1 over and over again

A good fund will be a good fund whether it gives distribution or not
A bad fund will be a bad fund whether it gives distribution or not

Performance has nothing to do with distribution, and vice versa

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 2 2014, 04:13 PM

The force is NOTstrong in this wan...
Blame it on bloody BS marketing chicken-lay-eggs units/distribution lor..
even some cat-geniuses gets suckered

Value is value - no matter how many slices/units U cut it, value = price *units
Reduce one, increase the other = same value
increase BOTH or hold one while increasing the other = value growth

1 pizza cut 4 slices VS same pizza cut 100 slices
Eat all for either, same "filling of stomach" right?

oops - above for Felix.. dont tell me all cats think alike?
1 goes extreme
another goes distribution buy more
now felix goes "not touching non-distribution fund/etf"..
it's a cat thing right?

cats taste good with curry

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Oct 2 2014, 04:19 PM

both fund bought during launching.. never reach mine buying price.Cannot sell this chicken

topup few time...praying hard can go up.....so i consider is bad fund.


thanks listen mine frustration ; let move on...and thank remind..which i full understand your POST1.

cat eat the curry... sure get ...what ever is own opinion and juz sharing mine bad scenario.

IF you are me..what kind action to take for both fund. PCS and RHB-OSK AREF

require SEAFOOD ..receipe..to revive mine chickend curry fund?

This post has been edited by felixmask: Oct 2 2014, 04:28 PM

personally?
i'd cut loss, take the $ and go grow it elsewhere (if >=3yrs still turkey lar in total + each injection)
zero sunk-cost mentality, or ignoring what is already sunked-in -
would i invest in that animal now knowing what i know?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_costs
http://www.lifehack.org/articles/communica...act-stupid.html

if not, cut loss and use the $ somewhere better than let it simmer and die or.. HOPE.. heheh hope is NOT one of the better method of investing.

This post has been edited by wongmunkeong: Oct 2 2014, 04:36 PM

the problem is the MANAGEMENT of that 2 funds sucked, not with their distribution policy/trend/history

A good fund can go from IPO price RM0.1000 to price RM2.3456 with ZERO distribution throughout the years
A bad fund can go from IPO price RM2.0000 with REGULAR distributions over X no. of years with current NAV RM1.1967 and still lose you money

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 2 2014, 04:39 PM

thanks for advice . full understand
i type..like to buy..keep let it grow...

then is mine bad luck..but hv reduce mine PCSF transfer to other fund.

left this RHB-OSK AREF stuck there > 7year. I bought wit 0% sale charge

This post has been edited by felixmask: Oct 2 2014, 04:46 PM

We want to own a tribe...with fertile ladies can make babies
One year produce e.g. 10-20 babies
Then we sacrifice 8 babies every year to please the Gods

We don't want a tribe...all ladies on Marvelon® pills...or the men shoot shoot shoot keep shooting blanks
Then every year we sacrifice 8 productive people to please the Gods
Just a matter of time the tribe will go extinct

Just an analogy

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 2 2014, 04:47 PM

>7yrs?
assuming in 3 years U know it's useless piece of kaka..

that means U lost >4 years of growth, simple calc say 4*8%pa = 32% of growth/profits
in actual compounding, even more + the fact nearly all markets have been tearing up past 5 years..

pain or not holding or using sunk-cost pain avoidance?
pain leh?


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