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post Sep 11 2014, 10:53 AM

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anyone buying CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund via "CIMB-Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity" which is basically the same thing with 0% service charge but can only be withdrawn at 55 years old
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post Sep 11 2014, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(repusez @ Sep 11 2014, 10:53 AM)
anyone buying CIMB-Principal Asia Pacific Dynamic Income Fund via "CIMB-Principal PRS Plus Asia Pacific Ex Japan Equity" which is basically the same thing with 0% service charge but can only be withdrawn at 55 years old
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I did, but only RM3k, to also get the tax relief thumbup.gif
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post Sep 11 2014, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 11 2014, 10:46 AM)
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Nothing especially clever I am afraid. I have quite a bit in both UOAREIT and YTLREIT and both have gone up quite a bit this month. I have held both for a very long time now. Combined with the REIT dividends received this month, it adds up to quite a bit.
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post Sep 11 2014, 01:16 PM

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post Sep 11 2014, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 11 2014, 09:34 AM)

But then again, we are not buying an index fund. When we buy into a good fund, we are relying on the fund manager to deliver us market-beating returns. And this is very possible in less than efficient markets like in Malaysia and Asia ex Japan. wink.gif
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But like you mentioned, it served as a reference right? sad.gif
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post Sep 11 2014, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Sep 11 2014, 04:01 PM)
But like you mentioned, it served as a reference right?  sad.gif
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Ya ya

Hope for the best, expect average, dump the worse icon_idea.gif

Hope for market-beating returns, expect market returns, dump market laggards icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Sep 11 2014, 04:25 PM

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post Sep 11 2014, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Sep 11 2014, 08:40 AM)
Just coming from someone that is not as active here anymore.

When a lot of people is mentioning it, it's either a love or hate relationship. In this case, love. Why do we love it? It's making us money. Personally I see China/HK as a promising market (after the lousy performance I got from GEYF), but KLCI is high in terms of valuation compared to the rest of the SEA market, trading at 17x PE. So don't go too gung-ho on KGF. If you monitor the market closely, there's not much of catalyst as of now... for September and October at least based on historical trend.

Just a thought for reference.
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thanks much for the tip!

at the moment im not so well versed as you guys... wont be half as sensitive to the nuances of the markets laugh.gif probably just gonna put some amount into some funds and leave it on auto-pilot for months (or a year) on end or something sweat.gif but okay, i understand what youre getting at about *wonderful* funds!

QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 11 2014, 09:34 AM)
Hwang Quantum, yes. One of the best small-mid cap Asia ex Japan fund. Other alternative would be RHB-OSK Emerging Opportunity Unit Trust. But since takeover of OSK by RHB, most of us observed a downtrend in performance...

Eastspring Small Cap is not comparable, cos it's 100% Malaysian small-mid cap, whereas the 2 mentioned above have mandate to invest in offshore Asian markets.

As for KGF...yes, performance have been spectacular. U may also consider Eastspring Equity Income, both are 100% Malaysian equity fund. But I prefer Hwang Select Opportunity as the fund manager can diversify up to 30% in offshore markets if they see limited potential in Malaysian market.

Btw, to clarify, I'm saying FSM range of funds are wide-ranging, NOT the Recommended List. wink.gif
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thanks much for the reply! will go read up some more on these funds before laying down the money nod.gif haha oklo, i thought FSM would draw up their recommended portfolio from the wide-ranging funds that they have, thereby making their rec. portfolio wide-ranging also LOL laugh.gif

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post Sep 11 2014, 11:38 PM

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some info about FSM recommended portfolios...
FSM Asset Allocation Methodologies
In the beginning of each year, FSM research team will release our “What and Where to Invest” report, which represents the team’s outlook
for various markets and asset classes. We detail in the report whether we are overweight/neutral/underweight on equities vis-à-vis fixed
income. If we are overweight or underweight on equities, the portfolios’ actual target allocation is likely to deviate from the primary target
allocation accordingly.
Region/Country Allocation
For the “Stable” and the “Growth” portfolios, the equity part consists of a “core” portion and a “supplementary” portion.
Core: The core portion is the larger portion (80% to 90%) of the portfolio, investing in regional markets such as the US, Europe, Asia
ex-Japan and Global Emerging Markets. This is to diversify risks and capture market returns of different regions in the long run.
Supplementary: The supplementary portion is the smaller portion (10% to 25%) of the portfolio, investing in markets which are less
regionally diversified, such as single-country or sector-based equities. These are investments which may experience higher volatility, but
may possibly deliver higher returns. Single-country examples include India, China and Indonesia, and sectors include technology, healthcare
and resources.
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This post has been edited by yklooi: Sep 11 2014, 11:57 PM
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:05 AM

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For Fixed Income lovers, any thoughts on Amconservative?
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just did quick comparison of latest stock holdings for Kenanga Growth and Eastspring Investment Equity Income....30% of stock holdings are overlapped for both funds...

still not too bad, i think, as these 2 MY funds will more or less cover the top 100-150 stocks in the Bursa.
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Sep 12 2014, 11:05 AM)
For Fixed Income lovers, any thoughts on Amconservative?
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Past performance speaks for itself:
http://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/admin...eetMYAMCSVT.pdf

Comparable to the award-winning Hwang Select Income Fund, difference being, the Hwang fund can invest offshore.
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QUOTE(jutamind @ Sep 12 2014, 11:05 AM)
just did quick comparison of latest stock holdings for Kenanga Growth and Eastspring Investment Equity Income....30% of stock holdings are overlapped for both funds...

still not too bad, i think, as these 2 MY funds will more or less cover the top 100-150 stocks in the Bursa.
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Even though both may have similar stock pick holdings but KGF NAV swings more violently than ESI EIF.

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ROI within the time of interest:

KGF: 4.38%
ESIEIF: 0.97%

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post Sep 13 2014, 12:07 PM

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from what i see, Equity Income fund invests more towards the bluest of the blue chips, while KGF is more diverse...

to put it as an analogy, i would say Equity Income probably invest in top 50 funds, while KGF top 100-150 funds in Bursa. each fund holds around 50-60 stocks.

QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 12 2014, 06:57 PM)
Even though both may have similar stock pick holdings but KGF NAV swings more violently than ESI EIF.

[attachmentid=4131603]

ROI within the time of interest:

KGF: 4.38%
ESIEIF: 0.97%
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post Sep 13 2014, 10:24 PM

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FSM website on maintenance and this thread has been rather quiet lately. laugh.gif
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post Sep 14 2014, 09:21 AM

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Good morning everybody... Planning to update my portfolio in my excel. Have not been doing it for 3 weeks... busy busy
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post Sep 14 2014, 09:59 AM

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post Sep 14 2014, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Nauts @ Sep 14 2014, 10:59 AM)
New to Unit Trust, so far investing in EastSpring, RHB OSK ,AmAsia & Hwang
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how long already?

via FSM?
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QUOTE(Nauts @ Sep 14 2014, 09:59 AM)
New to Unit Trust, so far investing in EastSpring, RHB OSK ,AmAsia & Hwang
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i also new let learn together
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Sep 14 2014, 10:42 AM)
how long already?

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