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ronaldkwok
post Apr 12 2010, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(b48753 @ Apr 12 2010, 12:42 AM)

As i recommend Harddisk is much better on averate bitrate to mostly 30mbit/sec, if wanna go for SD do ensure the SD card type (speed) rate is 4 and above to avoid any drop frames as ronaldkwok video did showed.

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At which point did you notice the drop frames so that I can check on the original video? I am not too sure if this is due to the Youtube rendering when I uploaded the video or due to the Sanyo. I am already using a Class 4 SDHC card! rclxub.gif Thanks.
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post Apr 12 2010, 11:49 PM

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Greetings to all. I am happy to see a video enthusiasts thread here. Looking forward to learn from everyone.
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post Apr 13 2010, 03:32 AM

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anyone here tried DOF adapter attached on ur camcorder?
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post Apr 14 2010, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(ronaldkwok @ Apr 12 2010, 07:47 PM)
At which point did you notice the drop frames so that I can check on the original video? I am not too sure if this is due to the Youtube rendering when I uploaded the video or due to the Sanyo. I am already using a Class 4 SDHC card!  rclxub.gif Thanks.
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Sorry bro..misleading statement..I thought it is drop frame, but looks like it's due to the image stabilization..sorry again..
As i knew now latest JVC pro camcorders are now using Dual Class 6 SDHC card now to record HD content.
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post Apr 14 2010, 06:43 AM

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Thanks, bro for the clarification. I thought I need to throw away my Class 4 SDHC cards, whew sweat.gif Ya, the image stabilisation sucks but if you can live with that, it's OK.
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post Apr 14 2010, 11:46 AM

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Nway I just brought Sony HDR-HC9E, HDV videocam.
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post Apr 14 2010, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(b48753 @ Apr 12 2010, 12:42 AM)
As i recommend Harddisk is much better on averate bitrate to mostly 30mbit/sec, if wanna go for SD do ensure the SD card type (speed) rate is 4 and above to avoid any drop frames as ronaldkwok video did showed.
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30mbps on hard drive? I'm thinking of buying a smaller video camera as a sidekick, which ones record at 30mbps?

QUOTE(b48753 @ Apr 14 2010, 01:17 AM)
As i knew now latest JVC pro camcorders are now using Dual Class 6 SDHC card now to record HD content.
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Sounds cool, i'm just too curious to find out what format these cameras shoot in. What models are they? Mine records at max 24mbps AVCHD over Class 4 SDHC cards. Just wondering which cameras require Class 6 SDHC.

saru88, if you know anyone interested to buy a 35mm adapter (or with a HV30 camera paired with it), let me know. My friend's selling his.
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QUOTE(b48753 @ Apr 14 2010, 01:17 AM)
Sorry bro..misleading statement..I thought it is drop frame, but looks like it's due to the image stabilization..sorry again..
As i knew now latest JVC pro camcorders are now using Dual Class 6 SDHC card now to record HD content.
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Is the JVC using higher bitrate recording? Normal bitrate 24mbps I guess. Class 4 SDHC should be fast enough to write.
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post Apr 14 2010, 05:31 PM

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The JVC GY-HM700U is using dual Class 6 SDHC for 35mbps recording of AVCHD format. But as we know that is pro camcorder.


Added on April 14, 2010, 5:35 pm
QUOTE(ozak @ Apr 14 2010, 03:44 PM)
Is the JVC using higher bitrate recording? Normal bitrate 24mbps I guess. Class 4 SDHC should be fast enough to write.
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For HDD type the bitrate is going to be at 30mbps.

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QUOTE(b48753 @ Apr 14 2010, 05:31 PM)
The JVC GY-HM700U is using dual Class 6 SDHC for 35mbps recording of AVCHD format. But as we know that is pro camcorder.


Added on April 14, 2010, 5:35 pm
For HDD type the bitrate is going to be at 30mbps.
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In that case, need higher write speed. Than better use HDD or DVtape.
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post Apr 14 2010, 08:26 PM

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Actually HDV bitrate is still 25mbps, but the advantage of HDV is the compression is very low that making editing on old PC is not painstaking.
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post Apr 14 2010, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(b48753 @ Apr 14 2010, 05:31 PM)
The JVC GY-HM700U is using dual Class 6 SDHC for 35mbps recording of AVCHD format. But as we know that is pro camcorder.
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I'm sorry, but i thought that model records in MPEG2 format at 35mbps just like the hm100u?
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post Apr 15 2010, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(FuGZ @ Apr 14 2010, 09:22 PM)
I'm sorry, but i thought that model records in MPEG2 format at 35mbps just like the hm100u?
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Yup.in MPEG2...sorry for the misleading quote..
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post Apr 15 2010, 11:26 AM

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post Apr 16 2010, 03:16 AM

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Need recommendation on Camcorder which is less than 1k,anything close to HD?
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post Apr 16 2010, 10:41 AM

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No way in this world you can get decent HD camcorders under RM 1k..
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post Apr 16 2010, 04:40 PM

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how much is the HC9E going for now? It's funny how shops like to overprice old camcorders in Malaysia.

The Panny TM700 looks tasty, i just wonder how much i'd spend on a 2nd camera..
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post Apr 17 2010, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(FuGZ @ Apr 16 2010, 04:40 PM)
b48753,

how much is the HC9E going for now? It's funny how shops like to overprice old camcorders in Malaysia.

The Panny TM700 looks tasty, i just wonder how much i'd spend on a 2nd camera..
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In KL (mostly Sungei Wang Plaza) the price of HC9E is around RM 4k, but if you want some budget HC7E which is almost identical to HC9E you can get around RM 2.8k. Give a visit to a camera shop at KLIA, you'll see much more unbeatable bargain, while stock last drool.gif

TM700 are most tempted, 3MOS summore..but i don't like AVCHD format tongue.gif

Actually wish tat JVC can re-introduce GZ-HD 40 again, or much more improved model based on this model.. biggrin.gif

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post Apr 18 2010, 05:25 AM

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Wow, HC9 still fetching for a high price for an old generation camcorder.. but i kinda wanna get away from tapes since after having the HMC152. AVCHD's just fine i guess, i've always transcoded most formats to an intermediary codec before editing with.

Lovin the XR series from Sony but i'm quite anal over manual controls. And i still haven't seen any claimed improvement of 3MOS cover CMOS really. Prolly wait till the TM700 comes up on our local shelves..
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Hi guys, anyone know in KL which shop selling "Sanyo HD2000"?

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