The current system of abandon after not getting exp for a certain amount of time isn't that good. There's a game where I had a zeus who'd camp fountain after we lost 1 or 2 team fight and just spam ulti. I was just playing normal pub. He totally gave up on that game when it's 6.82 and you could get tons of exp if you manage to win 1 fight or get a pick off.

I also found out that there were people abusing mmr system where they just pick zeus and spam ulti in fountain once they reach lv6. If you do this during your mmr calibration, then you would get high mmr despite losing due to high hero damage that you dealt during the game.

This post has been edited by ck.chunkeat: Oct 4 2014, 01:30 AM

Can send to vietnam ?
And how's the payment ? Got tax etc ?
Can teach me how ? Tried to buy at the homepage , but at the address there doesn't have the Malaysia in selection at the country box .

This post has been edited by jeffng89: Oct 4 2014, 06:41 AM

Sad team Malaysia

mail to: wlfcs@mightyfineinc.com (we love fine customer service)

Server back to potato..
Three times match not scored, and its all winning mmr games

ya, rip SEA server 10 man dc no stat count. lel

I finally have the time to play and server goes potato?

This alliance vs c9 game.. are they trying to make a new record

never thought this 6.82b patch would encourage rat doto or maybe some teams are experimenting
but imho, i hate rat, as a player and spectator
its so damn boring altho i gotto say it require alot of coordination to do it
but meh, watching wca c9 vs A, 100mins and counting, i almost fell asleep

I almost fall asleep now true story
its like the old china game >.<

it never was like china dota tho
the age of china farming era was about 4 protect 1 and getting the carry 6 slotted and forcing team fight, taking calculative risk. at least there are teamfights iguess
this rat doto, imho, is dodging every single fight, and sending illusions into enemy base and sieging tower/rax. thats what rat doto is all bout, nothing else

well they made record, 1 hr pause time...

I think the radiance have to be changed. Maybe reduced the burn damage when illusions are created? so that only the main one will have full radiance burn while the illusions will have reduced burn damage.

why? then if like all aura item need nerf laa for illu.

only 1 rad work, so no prob


rat is cool, seeing people 5 man moving together more sux. at least with rat, it force them to spread. can see more strategy.

everyday see 5 man clash, then after all dead, cont farm. that's boring

This post has been edited by ~min~: Oct 5 2014, 08:37 AM

If you let the enemy carry farm a radiance, you deserve to lose.
If you fail to end the game before the enemy carry can come online, you deserve to lose.
If you throw bodies at the raxes without planning and get teamwiped, you deserve to lose.

People still don't get this - the objective of the game is to destroy the enemy's ancient. If you lack conviction to finish off the game, you deserve to lose.

Welp, I don't think I'm gonna touch Dota for a while now.

My game was dropped, AGAIN.

Just happened to me. Massive lag, and players disconnected on multiple occasions.

I was talking about the alliance vs c9 game, sorry for not making myself clear.

Rat isn't cool for that game, I doubt anyone will say that is a great and exciting dota 2 game.

Well, seeing its 6.82b, you could get a radiance much easier due to the rubber banding meta. Anyway, I just don't think it's fair when you are that farm, you can basically 1 v 5 with naga. I agree with what dendi says in twitter. Something must be changed. It just doesn't make sense when you are that much ahead in kills,gold and exp yet you can barely do anything about that naga ratting. It is just my 2 cents and everyone can have their opinion.

Also, I think pro naga will get the radiance no matter what. If the opposing team spend all their time trying to shut down naga, the other team mate will get alot more farm as space is created. They will also be able to coordinate and protect their naga farm as that is their strategy. That's why I don't really agree of your point where if you let the enemy carry farm a radiance, you deserve to lose. Cause it is very situational, it depends on when the enemy naga get their radiance.

https://twitter.com/DendiBoss/status/518372345052798976

Pro games are a different ballgame altogether. They almost always acquire the Radiance, but having one doesn't mean you automatically win. The same strategy still applies - end before the enemy carry comes online. I remember seeing a game where Arteezy's Naga couldn't do anything because by the time he got his radiance, the enemy team was already pushing high ground, and his illusions didn't have enough hitpoints to stay alive long enough to have an impact. In 6.81, VG's deathball push rendered most late game carries useless.

I think Dendi's opinion is a little biased given Na'vi's default playstyle is face-rushing the enemy. The throw their sprees by diving enemies, and in 6.82 such reckless play is punished heavily if things go south.

Last but not least, I'm not trying to stifle your opinion. I'm just cautioning against the "it's imba it must be nerfed" train of thought. Look through the list of buffs/nerfs and you'll see that IceFrog has a very systematic way of maintaining balance because minor interaction changes can have a major impact on game quality. For example, nerfing Radiance will result in illusion-based carries to go down the agi-stacking path, which in turn will make ET a top pick/ban against them (currently he's reserved against pure agi stackers such as Morphling etc.)

i think i need a new monitor..

last time when i played mirana the lag is noticeable

i leaped from snipers ult but still died because of delay

This post has been edited by nikaizad: Oct 5 2014, 01:25 PM