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Canon dSLR 350D successor the 400D, It's getting hot, Sony Alpha, Nikon D80
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User61
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Sep 14 2006, 02:30 AM
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Getting Started

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QUOTE(julchin_09 @ Sep 14 2006, 12:25 AM) THeres a CANON Fans thread already. Just converge there and share experiences and future meets lor. Im not 100% sure about the specs for the 30D, But If I want to upgrade to a DLSR ,either the 400D or the 30D, what are the differences? And pros of having the more expensive 30D? You get a much much more sturdy body but nothing extremely different from the 400D =)
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shinchan^^
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Sep 14 2006, 07:37 AM
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plastic & magnesium
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ac98
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Sep 14 2006, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Sep 13 2006, 09:43 PM) FTZ has a lot selling body only Mmm ... for your info, Canon's Body Only package for the EOS 400D might be coming to Malaysia soon when the Full Package is smooth selling. Reason why they're not coming ashore so soon is becoz Canon Malaysia might wanna cater for the first timer DSLR users (of course) and to let retailer make more profit out of new stocks. For those who are new to DSLRs ... you WILL need the EF-S18-55mm kit lens trust me, it's a very good lens. I got myself some very nice sweeping sceneries of seasides, the sky, sunsets, as well as some very good portraits. Frequent travellers will find this lens very useful as it is lightweight and the F3.5 is more than enough to cater for indoor photography as well as wide angle coverage for the outdoors.
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ac98
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Sep 14 2006, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Sep 14 2006, 07:37 AM) It's magnesium alloy ... lighter than metal, stronger than plastic, cheaper than fiber/titanium
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ac98
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Sep 14 2006, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(julchin_09 @ Sep 14 2006, 12:25 AM) THeres a CANON Fans thread already. Just converge there and share experiences and future meets lor. 'There' as in where?
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julchin_09
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Sep 14 2006, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(ac98 @ Sep 14 2006, 09:40 AM) 'There' as in where?  http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=177694&st=0 Its in the Photography thread of course.....
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welwitchia
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Sep 14 2006, 11:23 PM
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Guys, need u'r help. Tell me if this is normal. If I hold my 400D and shake it "lightly" I can hear a slight rattle. I know the sound is confined to the body because the rattle is there even after i removed the lens. Is this normal? Thanks! Edit : I found out where the noise comes from.. its from the built-in flash. If its lifted up, the sound disappears. Some thing must be lose. This post has been edited by welwitchia: Sep 15 2006, 12:11 AM
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User61
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Sep 15 2006, 01:42 AM
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Getting Started

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welwitchia, the 400D you bought at 'Boeing', is it a gray market one/AP one? Is the warranty with Canon itself or with the shop/some other arrangement?
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julchin_09
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Sep 15 2006, 01:50 AM
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A 400D user. Thats fast.....  . Would like to hear first hand reviews on the cam.....
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shinchan^^
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Sep 15 2006, 07:48 AM
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;p i also just recommended my fren to get one too for her photography class.
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welwitchia
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Sep 15 2006, 08:09 AM
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Yes. i bought it at Boeing. I really don't know if its AP/ori. I thought these things applies to handphones only. As for a review, i think u better read those online. I'm still a noob. ok, see if u guys can answer this one for me. Lets say I'm sitting in my room @ night and I take a picture with Full Auto and one with Aperture Priority mode, ISO 800 (both taken with flash). The Auto shot takes it at 1/50, ISO 400 while the Aperture Priority shot takes it at 0.8secs (yes, the flash did fire). Thats strange right? Can anyone explain this to me? Thx!
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ac98
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Sep 15 2006, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Sep 14 2006, 11:23 PM) Guys, need u'r help. Tell me if this is normal. If I hold my 400D and shake it "lightly" I can hear a slight rattle. I know the sound is confined to the body because the rattle is there even after i removed the lens. Is this normal? Thanks! Edit : I found out where the noise comes from.. its from the built-in flash. If its lifted up, the sound disappears. Some thing must be lose. Nothing is loose, the sound you heard is from the spring latch of the pop-up flash. When the flash pops up the spring will tighten until you push the flash back down again. Relax, the sound is there in every EOS model ever since the 1st day Canon incorporated pop-up flash into their cameras
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shinchan^^
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Sep 15 2006, 08:57 AM
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QUOTE(ac98 @ Sep 15 2006, 08:53 AM) Nothing is loose, the sound you heard is from the spring latch of the pop-up flash. When the flash pops up the spring will tighten until you push the flash back down again. Relax, the sound is there in every EOS model ever since the 1st day Canon incorporated pop-up flash into their cameras  zomg oh really?
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ac98
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Sep 15 2006, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Sep 15 2006, 08:09 AM) Yes. i bought it at Boeing. I really don't know if its AP/ori. I thought these things applies to handphones only. As for a review, i think u better read those online. I'm still a noob. ok, see if u guys can answer this one for me. Lets say I'm sitting in my room @ night and I take a picture with Full Auto and one with Aperture Priority mode, ISO 800 (both taken with flash). The Auto shot takes it at 1/50, ISO 400 while the Aperture Priority shot takes it at 0.8secs (yes, the flash did fire). Thats strange right? Can anyone explain this to me? Thx! At whatever aperture you set on the camera, it'll need that particular shutter speed to achieve a correct exposure. The flash will fire at both settings coz it's too dark. There's nothing strange about it.
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ZetaZoom
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Sep 15 2006, 09:02 AM
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Mind telling what Aperture value you set when you are using Aperture Priority?
Full Auto will set the Aperture value by itself but you can set the Aperture value manually in Aperture Priority.
Aperture value will affect your shutter speed. The bigger the Aperture number under low light condition, you will achieve what you stated there - 0.8 seconds shutter speed. You should twist down the Aperture value as small as possible to achieve faster shutter speed.
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ac98
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Sep 15 2006, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Sep 15 2006, 08:57 AM) Including a 300D, I owned 2 EOS models already ... no big deal-lah! You dun throw away your car just becoz you hear a soft squeek in the engine right?
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welwitchia
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Sep 15 2006, 09:29 AM
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The aperture was set around F5.0 or F6.0 The reason i find it strange is, if Auto @ ISO 400 takes it at 1/50, why does Av mode @ ISO 800 takes it at 0.8sec? Thanks! QUOTE(ac98 @ Sep 15 2006, 09:00 AM) At whatever aperture you set on the camera, it'll need that particular shutter speed to achieve a correct exposure. The flash will fire at both settings coz it's too dark. There's nothing strange about it.
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ZetaZoom
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Sep 15 2006, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Sep 15 2006, 09:29 AM) The aperture was set around F5.0 or F6.0 The reason i find it strange is, if Auto @ ISO 400 takes it at 1/50, why does Av mode @ ISO 800 takes it at 0.8sec? Thanks! Try to compare both picture's Aperture value.
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ac98
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Sep 15 2006, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Sep 15 2006, 09:29 AM) The aperture was set around F5.0 or F6.0 The reason i find it strange is, if Auto @ ISO 400 takes it at 1/50, why does Av mode @ ISO 800 takes it at 0.8sec? Thanks! Dun wanna confuse here, but let you answer your own question : At ISO800 and Av Mode, you're twice as high the light sensitivity as in the Auto Mode, right? So at 0.8sec the camera actually needed at least 50 times as slow a shutter speed to achieve the correct exposure. That means ... assuming you didn't shift away from where you sat, the camera actually chose a darker side to focus in Av Mode and thus achieved that exposure setting. The camera actually chose ANOTHER way to achieve focus, that's all.
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welwitchia
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Sep 15 2006, 04:09 PM
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^ ah, u may be right.. the camera might have focused on something darker.. Thanks for the pointer man. Very much appreciated.
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