friend shopping dslr now ..... currently more towards sony alpha. times are good for entry dslr this next couple of months.

we have:
pentax k100d
olympus e500
olympus e330
sony alpha a100
nikon d50
nikon d80
canon 350d
canon 350d successor

Sony alpha low light performance not very good, Pentax K100D reaction time slow...olympus forget about it ....i will still say nikon or canon...

pentax how? good or not?

nikon and canon overated ...... ...... there are other cameras also. if it is true only nikon and canon makes good cameras - the rest ta pau long time ago.

This post has been edited by kitman: Aug 25 2006, 01:00 PM

10Mp is good.....better than 30D reso by the way...but then who needs 10mp on a 37 burst when you can have 8.mp on a 60+ burst....nyummy....

This post has been edited by antonio: Aug 25 2006, 01:17 PM

Its a very different ball game altogether in the digital & hi-tech electronics field.
Look at Canon, Nikon, Oly, Pentax, Konica FILM SLR. Each offered some models which became a legend and unique in its own right. They didn't simply churn or upgrade new models every now and then like what's happening now.
Its was like having hand made Rolex with precision engineering for keeps, unlike now we're like flooded with cams that would have a shorter lifespan and worthless in due time.

well p&s digi cam already like handphone. buy latest model every 6mths just to make fashion statement. camera biz very susah la, most stocks obsolete in 6mths.....

not overrated lar, more like "safer choice". i think this 2 brand is reliable. not saying that other brands not reliable, but people already comfortable with Nikon & Canon.

but there is still hope for other brands lar. more competition, more good products.

canon and nikon are not overrated...
look at their collection of lenses and accessories...

You can't place everything in this order. It will be very difficult to choose as you are comparing apple, pear and orange together.

1st you might want to think of budget. The list you will have would be...

low budget:
Nikon D50 (no stock)
Pentax K100D

average budget:
Olympus E500
Sony A100
Canon 350D
Nikon D70s

above average budget:
Olympus E330
Canon 400D
Nikon D80

If budget is not a problem, then you have to go for features rich battle. Choose whichever you want the most. Low light performance, Anti camera shake, Anti dust and etc etc...

Sony A100 is not that bad after all. It is one of the features rich camera body on the list. Albeit from poor ISO, it does carry anti camera shake, anti dust, eye-piece auto focus sensor and etc etc. As for K100D, though it had a little bit performance issue but what do you expect for a 2k range of dslr?

As for Canon 400D and Nikon D80, though it is nice entry level but the price would be a little too expensive. I believe those models are close to 4k plus. So is it worth to toss in extra money to get a little high tech?

Just think what you need the most will do...

Not that Canon and Nikon can dominate the market. Others are equally good only depends on what you prefer. Some may goes for brand... but I would say choose whichever offer you the one that you need the most.

waiting for a review on
D80 vs 400D

i think D80 and 400D is different class...400D will be more in the price range of 350D..a direct replacement model IMHO....

as for D80 is somewhat in a fnny range between D70s and 30D

Nope... both are in the same range. D80 is more like a combination of D50 and D70s. It is not a revolutionary unit.

mind to tell how much u bought it?

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=297711&st=100

here have a similiar topic and some prices references


And while everyone saying D80 is similiar to D200 ,dont forgot so is 400D technology also similiar to 30D ,

Entry level is still entry level
Midrange is still midrange ,we can see it from the Continuos Shoot also (5FPS for midrange ,3FPS for entry)
remember entry is still entry ,Nikon using 11 AF point while Canon is 9 AF point ,this doesnt made Nikon entry better then Canon midrange ,from the continuos shoot we can see it ?
And I wouldnt believe if D80 will be as fast as D200 ,because NIKON is not stupid ,if its the same ,no one will buy their midrange but all go for D80 , entry is still entry ,midrange is still midrange (from the Continuos shoot FPS we knw Nikon will purposely limit the entry no matter how)

Nikon D80(body only) US999 , (18-135) US1299
Canon 400D (body only) US799 , (18-55) US899
Sony @100 (body only) US899 ,(18-70) US999

This is US SRP for 3 10 megapixel entry DSLR.

Which one u choose ?

someone might come out with a cracked firmware for D80 and make full use of the cam 1000 like D200 since its the same moduble, i assume they can be done the same thing via firmware

another cannot compete is the 3d matrix sensor

To differentiate between the classes of Canon's SLRs (both film and digital) is simple. Canon's entry level SLRs have three numbers in them (i.e. 700, 350D, 400D). Their semi- pro range have two numbers in them (i.e. 20D, 30D, 50). The professional range has a single digit, i.e. 5D, 1D, 3.

This post has been edited by elb: Aug 26 2006, 04:58 PM

sure the classes are different but what we are seeing here is the trickling down of midrange dslr functions down to entry level dslr, eventhough some of the specs might be a step down of those in the midrange dslr.

me?
i will go for the nikon. but that's because i already have nikon lenses...

i`m go for 400D