Wahh.. EarlyBird Market Warrior.. remember, if more killmail, then more product will be demanded...

Yea, yesterday made 20 million in profit, quite nice for 1st time Station Trading. What do you mean killmail? It seems like I didn't learn much just from reading guides

I believe what he meant by killmail was more ships and stuff being destroyed to keep the demand for modules and ships to be high.

yup thanks for clarifying.
basically u want to produce thing that is heavily demande such as ammo/missile rather than things that ppl rarely buy.

Ahh I see, thanks.

I normally regard manufacturing in EVE to be of 3 tiers:

Tier 1:
T1 manufacturing. Basically you produce the T1 items from fully researched BPO and you sell to T2 manufacturers who's manufacturing slots are more efficiently used to product T2 stuff. An offshoot from this tier is rigs manufacturing which you can just sell directly to market.

Tier 2:
You produce Tech 2 components that basically converts moon mat into components for tech 2 parts (i.e. Tungsten Carbide Armor Plates, Scalar Capacitor Units & etc). For this, you basically need the proper skills to manufacture these stuff. For those of you who wants to manufacture first (and not bother with invention), this is the route to go.

Tier 3:
You invent, and then you build the complete Tech 2 ships/modules. If you're in this tier, you buy your components, raw mats etc from market and just focus on churning out the modules (yes, you can build everything from scratch but your time to market will be much longer and you might be more vulnerable to market changes). This tier is the same if you are producing Tech 3 so grouped both as Tier 3 manufacturing.



So for new players who wants to dabble in manufacturing, move from Tier to Tier and you might even find suitable Tier 3 manufacturer to supply your Tier 1 product to at a fixed price. This is a good way to start up a small corp that does their own mining, build T1 modules and sell to Tier 3 producers and if mineral prices took a dip, just buy off the market.

Anyway, there are many ways to play the game and what I've illustrated above is just a suggestion and may be used as a reference to new players.

This post has been edited by sikongma: Jan 5 2015, 04:07 PM

My "Used to be awesome plan"

1: Mining and missioning daily (plus salvage for more money)

2: Keep money for BPO/BPC and Towers up plus maintenance. Mining might take a week or up to you to fill em up to build how much and Missioning that give you standing and points to use up for research and mods.

3: Stop mining and missioning as BPC printing will be "that" profitable, or still do it as your prints gets sold off. Then you'll get the hang of it in trading and "show face" with other players (Market PvP).

That was my "the plan", one american dude of mine did it within 6 months? than now he plays casual with 8 accs. I don't know about the current state, but yea

Oh, and this picture

just when i manage to get fighter to level 5 CCP is nerfing both fighter and fighter bomber

Anyone know how much does Retriever can get mining with a strip miner I? Per min I'd say.

It really depends on what u mine and your skills.

generally I fill my retriever ore hold with scordite and pyroxeres and can get about ....... mayb 4mil+ per full hold

Download EFT. Upload your character API. Fit a retriever and you'll see your mining amount.

Basic Information:
Retriever
Mining Barge bonuses (per skill level):
5% bonus to ship ore hold capacity
2% reduction in Strip Miner and Ice Harvester duration

Role bonus:
25% bonus to Strip Miner yield
20% reduction in Ice Harvester duration and activation cost

Strip Miner I
Mining amount: 540 m3
Duration/cycle: 180 second

Bare minimum required skills (mining related) to pilot Retriever and fit Strip Miner I:
4 Mining (5% mining yield bonus/Lvl)
3 Astrogeology (5% mining yield bonus/Lvl)
1 Mining Barge

Amount you can mine per minute (Minimum skills, 1 retriever, 1 strip miner I, nothing else):
Mining amount
= Base amount * ship bonus * skill bonus
= 540 m3 * 1.25 * [(1 + 4 * 0.05) * (1 + 3 * 0.05)]
= 931.5 m3

Duration/cycle
= 180 sec x [1 - 0.02]
= 176.4 sec

Amount/minute
= 931.5 / 176.4 * 60
= 316.8 m3/min

To improve yield:
- Mining skills
- Ship skills
- "Mining laser upgrade" (low slot module)
- Mining related head implants
- Fleet booster (Mining foreman skill / Orca pilot fleetmate)

This post has been edited by sumjs_5624: Jan 8 2015, 06:01 PM

Aye thanks for the deeply calculated minimum skill yield. Quite an improvement from a XeCL Beam.

If anyone want to buy eve plex please let me know, I bought extra for my alt's account but decided to reduce number of my active accounts.

just be careful...sometimes people have bad intention, and report you as RMT seller to get you banned....

usd rate is worsening... lucky to those who take the steam promo or the eve promo...now i wonder how much is steam plex cost..

Still at a Steady RM 38 it seems.

On 19th Jan 2015, we're having a small gathering in PJ, with guys pilots from Penang and Singapore joining us. Let me know if any of you wants to join us.

invite me to fleet and open cyno..

oh but have to work, unless you can open cyno and i can jump there in real life LOL

PS: hope KL within jump range