Did you notice that after the departure of Adrian Newey, things seem to be better? Now, the overheating engine problem has gone..... to another team.
Team Vodafone McLaren Mercedes V2, Malaysia GP Qlfy: Heikki P3, Lewis P4
Team Vodafone McLaren Mercedes V2, Malaysia GP Qlfy: Heikki P3, Lewis P4
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May 31 2007, 03:20 PM
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Did you notice that after the departure of Adrian Newey, things seem to be better? Now, the overheating engine problem has gone..... to another team.
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May 31 2007, 05:14 PM
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oops... type in wrong forum... paiseh..
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May 31 2007, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ May 31 2007, 03:20 PM) Did you notice that after the departure of Adrian Newey, things seem to be better? Now, the overheating engine problem has gone..... to another team. engine heating nothing to do with newey... engine is under mario illien,he now in motogp...mclaren lost 3 engineernewey - chasis (now in rbr) illien - engine (own ilmor motogp team) tombazis - aerodynamic (back to ferrari) |
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May 31 2007, 07:20 PM
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Illien already have nothing to do with the engine since 2000, when he sold his Illmor company to Mercedes. He's just there as an advisor
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May 31 2007, 11:18 PM
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then who is our car designer? lol
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May 31 2007, 11:39 PM
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Not one person it seems. Ron uses a team this time instead of a head designer
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Jun 1 2007, 11:31 AM
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congrats mc laren for the 1 2 finish
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Jun 6 2007, 04:02 PM
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anyone know the race engineer for el Alonzo??
Added on June 6, 2007, 4:23 pm QUOTE(TOYO @ May 31 2007, 05:31 PM) engine heating nothing to do with newey... engine is under mario illien,he now in motogp...mclaren lost 3 engineer u wrong dude,aerodynamic can effect the engine heating,newey must help illien to get a lot of air to colling the engine by make a good deflector panel and turbulent air flow(side pod) but he only make an aerodynamic work to increase car speednewey - chasis (now in rbr) illien - engine (own ilmor motogp team) tombazis - aerodynamic (back to ferrari) a good aerodynamic is who can create bodywork which can increase car speed,balancing wing (oversteer and understeer) to make driver suitable and make great airflow to support engine you can read more about this in 50th Annual Formula 1 book (publish in 2001) This post has been edited by faris21: Jun 6 2007, 04:23 PM |
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Jun 6 2007, 05:18 PM
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hermm.. i never heard mclaren had engine overheating problem...what they had hydraulic failure,software failure,broken or crack component... n untill now mclaren still using newey design chasis
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Jun 6 2007, 07:28 PM
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The unused MP4-18 and the unloved MP4-19 was McLaren's first try to break from Newey's design. The cars were designed by McLaren's newly developed design team, but it was deemed to early to be good enough, thus the MP4-20 was given to Newey, where he used the Zero-Keel to good use. The MP4-22 as you can see is more similar to the MP4-19 than the MP4-20
Added on June 6, 2007, 7:30 pm QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 6 2007, 04:02 PM) anyone know the race engineer for el Alonzo?? not quite. engine are usually the first thing designed for a car, and then teh car will literally be made around it. This is why some car will be launched later when they have problem with the engine design or when teams buying an engine from another manufacturer.Added on June 6, 2007, 4:23 pm u wrong dude,aerodynamic can effect the engine heating,newey must help illien to get a lot of air to colling the engine by make a good deflector panel and turbulent air flow(side pod) but he only make an aerodynamic work to increase car speed a good aerodynamic is who can create bodywork which can increase car speed,balancing wing (oversteer and understeer) to make driver suitable and make great airflow to support engine you can read more about this in 50th Annual Formula 1 book (publish in 2001) This post has been edited by linkinstreet: Jun 6 2007, 07:30 PM |
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Jun 7 2007, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(TOYO @ Jun 6 2007, 05:18 PM) hermm.. i never heard mclaren had engine overheating problem...what they had hydraulic failure,software failure,broken or crack component... n untill now mclaren still using newey design chasis kimi`s engine has overheating at MonteCarlo`06 during safety car bcos he cant control his engine rev properlymclaren also has a lot of engine problem in 2005,i think kimi has 3 penalties(drop ten grid)at Monza,Silverstone and Magny Cours bcos of Mercedes engine |
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Jun 7 2007, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 7 2007, 01:05 PM) kimi`s engine has overheating at MonteCarlo`06 during safety car bcos he cant control his engine rev properly I don't remember where I took the statistics, but during the 2003~2006 season, there were only 5 retirements which is from a blown engine. The main cause for retirements were usually Hydraulics or Electrics.mclaren also has a lot of engine problem in 2005,i think kimi has 3 penalties(drop ten grid)at Monza,Silverstone and Magny Cours bcos of Mercedes engine |
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Jun 7 2007, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(faris21 @ Jun 7 2007, 01:05 PM) kimi`s engine has overheating at MonteCarlo`06 during safety car bcos he cant control his engine rev properly that's kimi fault,why montoya doesn't had that problem??? engine problem doesn't mean cause by overheating bro...crack,leaking and hydraulic failure are the main reasonmclaren also has a lot of engine problem in 2005,i think kimi has 3 penalties(drop ten grid)at Monza,Silverstone and Magny Cours bcos of Mercedes engine |
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Jun 8 2007, 09:21 AM
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War of words if out there again. Lewis is the target now for what Jacques claimed as 'aggressive driver'. I think Jacques talk too much.
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Jun 9 2007, 06:52 AM
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yay .. mclaren on the fly again
Free Practice 2 1 F. Alonso McLaren 1:16.550 37 laps 2 F. Massa Ferrari 1:17.090 34 laps 3 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:17.307 36 laps 4 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:17.515 37 laps 5 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:17.827 42 laps Free Practice 1 1 F. Alonso McLaren 1:17.759 17 laps 2 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:17.976 20 laps 3 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:18.136 21 laps 4 F. Massa Ferrari 1:18.167 21 laps 5 M. Webber Red Bull 1:18.301 21 laps This post has been edited by Creative: Jun 9 2007, 06:54 AM |
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Jun 9 2007, 09:54 AM
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McLaren confident after Friday practice
QUOTE McLaren's Fernando Alonso set fastest times in both of Friday's free practice sessions for the Canadian Grand Prix in Montreal with 1m17.759 in the morning and 1m16.550 in the afternoon. His team mate Lewis Hamilton was second fastest in the first practice with 1m17.967 and third fastest in the second session with 1m17.307. Fernando did 17 and 37 laps respectively whilst Lewis completed 20 and 36 laps. "A good start to our weekend at a challenging circuit. In the first session we limited our running slightly as the track was very dirty and only used one set of tyres, but still emerged fastest," said Alonso. "The second session was spent on tyre evaluation and also looking at the brakes and we have made some good progress. I don't think we will dominate like we did at the last race in Monaco and the track conditions here means that it's very hard to estimate where our competition is, but so far so good." Hamilton commented, "Today was the first time I had the opportunity to drive at the Montreal circuit and I really enjoyed myself. We had done a lot of work back in the UK with our simulation programme and also I have watched a few of the past races here but you can't beat the real thing. We worked on set-up, tyre evaluation and also looking at the brakes as this circuit is notoriously hard on the brakes. There were no problems and it looks like we are in good shape." Team boss Ron Dennis added, "A troublefree start to our Canadian Grand Prix weekend. The team has worked hard since Monaco on finding further improvements and so far it looks like we could have a competitive weekend. As always on a Friday both drivers focused on general set-up work and tyre evaluation but we also did some work with the brakes as these are a key factor at this particular circuit." Source Another dominating race by the McLarens?!.... Again?! |
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Jun 9 2007, 10:00 AM
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I'm kinda surprised by our times...maybe that new engine is really something after all
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Jun 9 2007, 10:16 AM
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but alonso claimed that they wont dominate in montreal as like in monaco but at the mean time in practice alonso leads both session prior to qualifying..in qualifying we can have a better look at the ferraris as they usually start to show their colors from practice onwards
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Jun 9 2007, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(jiunkei_46 @ Jun 9 2007, 10:16 AM) but alonso claimed that they wont dominate in montreal as like in monaco but at the mean time in practice alonso leads both session prior to qualifying..in qualifying we can have a better look at the ferraris as they usually start to show their colors from practice onwards Alonso was trying to be humble |
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Jun 9 2007, 11:30 AM
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heard news juz now, hamilton might leave mclaren!!!
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