i would like to ask a question, need an honest review and comment here... though the VTEC engine is more powerful, will the City be more fuel efficient if compared with other 1.5 cars? can i compare it with the Perodua Myvi 1.3 Auto? (sorry for mentioning othe car here)

how many points will u give for the City VTEC from 1 - 10 points? and how many will u give for the City iDSL from 1 - 10 points?

can tell me more bout the car pls? the pros and cons on VTEC and IDSL?

City vs Myvi r totally 2 different category, where can compare like that. FC for City IDSI and VTEC will vary depends on ppl driving styles, highway, tyres preasures and etc. If you are plan for family driving, superb FC economy then you may go for City IDSI, else if you don't mind the FC r slightly higher, then you may go for City VTEC lor.
Anyway, if you plan to go for City VTEC, as long as you maintain less than 3k rpm (90km/h) where you driving in highway, you've the higher possibilities to achieve the good FC as City IDSI. For mine experiences, the City VTEC FC will a bit higher if in traffic jam condition.

hmm... can tell me more pls? how much do u often spend on ur fuel for a week? and so far does ur city vtec brings you any troubles?

u heard the same thing too? it make sense to me...but i dunno true or not...

best way is to get the SC to check it lo ... cruise wif the engineer in ur car n explain lo ..

BTW, any1 know how much is modding the hood to carbon fibre hood shud cost?

nycs82,
you don't mod the hood to carbon fibre.. you purchase an aftermarket carbon fibre hood to replace the original.. prices usually goes between RM1.xK - 2.xK depending on quality and origin (imported? local? etc)

howiechoo & zenix,
that sound is normal on the cvt, it's not the bearings.

The fuel efficiency on the VTEC engine seems pretty okay to me, considering when the low fuel indicator lights up (with a balance of 7-8 litres of petrol in tank) i usually would be able to obtain between 450 - 500km of mileage. The I-DSI would usually be able to clock about 50 - 100km more mileage compared to the VTEC.

With regards to power, i think the City is pretty good overall for both the I-DSI and VTEC due to the CVT. Both the engines are designed for different purposes in mind. One more those who want excellent fuel consumption, the other for those who'd prefer better power with less concern on fuel efficiency. But the VTEC still manages pretty good fuel consumption, so you can't go wrong with either models.

I have the Hyundai Accent 1.5 Auto and Perodua Myvi 1.3 Auto at home and have test driven the Nissan Sentra 1.6 Auto as well and I must say that I still prefer my Honda City VTEC. The quality built of the Nissan Sentra is pretty good and solid though.

4th Generation: VTEC | I-DSI
Interior: Black | Beige
HP on Engine : 110hp | 88hp
Rear Brakes : Solid Discs | Drums
CD-Player: Kenwood 50Wx4 CD-MP3 Player | Blaupunkt Miami Beach (if i'm not mistaken) 50Wx4 CD Player
Meters: Self-illuminating meters (aka Optitron meters) | Normal meters
Rear seats: Bottom seat drawers but no foldable seats | Foldable seats but no bottom seat drawers

Both has foldable side-mirrors, ABS and dual-airbags and 15" alloy rims. Comes with 40,000km or 2 years free maintenance warranty (whichever comes first) meaning all parts and labour would be free. Also comes with 100,000km or 3 years warranty on parts (whichever comes first).

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I'd like to talk about this power / horsepower issue on the I-DSI that has often given it quite a rough image that it would be underpowered compared to other cars of the same displacement.

The City packs quite a lot of technology within it and thus the I-DSI although it's engines rated horsepower is 88hp, it will still be good. Why? What's important is the amount of power/torque transferred to the wheels. As we all know, not all the power from the engine gets transferred due to power loss due to the airconditioner, transmission, steering and all that. Now, this is why the power on the I-DSI and VTEC is good.

The City has Electronic Power Steering (EPS) meaning it is non-hydraulic (no fluid ) and that has saved quite a good amount of power loss. The City also has a CVT transmission that is without a torque converter which means, less power loss again. Some of you may have experienced your City rolling back on a slope and power taking a while to be transferred, and this is the reason why. No torque converter. Two of these factors itself reduces quite a good amount of horsepower to be transferred from the engine to the wheels.

Toyota Vios, Nissan Sentra, Hyundai Accent, Perodua Myvi, and many others comes with conventional auto gearboxes and hydraulic steerings. and thus takes up quite an amount of horsepower from the engine.

Just my opinion.. cheers!

Jackie taigoh...why cabutz from Kokorobox already?
haha

you come all the way here to korek me ar
sometimes go here.. sometimes go there lo..
sometimes no ppl reply me ma

If it's bearing, you'll hear very obvious loud humming sound in your cabin. I know that coz i claimed both of the rear bearing of my Jazz.

This post has been edited by Gouki: Jan 12 2007, 02:51 AM

yea .... faham ... to me mod inclusive of changing, replace or addon etc ma

depend individual driving style I believe...

1) drive gentle (like ah-pek) maintain 75km/h, can last me 500-550km for Rm 46-48, total i just need refuel 3x times a month

2) sometime can't stand 75km/h, so just rev it 440-480km need Rm 54-65.... and need refuel 4 - 4.5x time a month

mine is iDSi 05

hehe but my bearing need to change liao.
my car now sounds like got sports exhaust

i claimed bearings b4 for my rear end.
can't be helped when i'm lugging around a 10" MTX

i'm an aggressive driver.
i pump 3 times in 2 weeks for my 1.3 idsi jazz.
i pump 3 times in 2 weeks also for my 1.5 vtec city.
as for range the jazz gets more out of the tank than the city, but the city more shiok to drive

as i know it's a bearing from engine there..not from wheel.....even the honest service centre guy say so...

i got a customer had changed it...i think about RM800+.....he change it cos his car warranty void by someone......then the service centre ask him to change since he can claim the damage from the person who damage the car.........but i dun think if we go sc they will admit it....

maybe just rumour.......no proof here

thanks guys... i have information here now... next step is the attempt to test drive and 'feel' the car ya? haha!

Eh really? Why is that? I thot everything the same between Jazz and City except the body design. Maybe the Jazz body makes it less responsive?

The stock tyres are Goodyear NCT 5 185/55/R15 (average tyres). I heard the test drive cars have different (better) tyres, so take at look and keep this in mind.

Dannyl,
because the jazz is an i-dsi, not a vtec..

Oh, engine difference? I thot it's the car model...
So if both were vtec, which one nicer to drive?

was thinking of taking our the chrome bar at the grill in front ... but looks complicated to take it out ...

went thru the bonnet ... and saw got 4 'pins' or 'screws' attached to the frame of the car ... but dono how to take that out haha ... feels like need some strength to pluck the thing out ... but dono whether can put it back onot ... if kenot ... then jialat... front grill cant put back haha ..

had a look and saw that there are 4 normal screws holding the bar on the front grill .. that one shud b easy to take out ... but the whole grill itself seems like need to be taken out b4 u can take out the bar ...

any suggestions? hopefully a DIY solution ... and not the ... i pay someone solution

i sprayed the front chrome piece when i sent my bodykit for spraying.. i'll have to re-spray my bodykit again due to a lousy paintjob, paint starts cracking at some places..

edit: if you remove the chrome piece, you'll have to sealed up the holes and re-spray the whole hood.. either way, you'll have to spend money unless you want to leave the holes there

This post has been edited by Jackie Leong: Jan 12 2007, 04:41 PM