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post Nov 22 2006, 04:54 PM

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blame the overclocking frenzy nowdays..from cpu to chipset to vga all need alot V laugh.gif
neoxz
post Nov 22 2006, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 22 2006, 04:34 PM)
Owh, you're talking about this... laugh.gif

Yes, it does look nice...

The look, looks are the same like Ultra 120 and HR-01... wink.gif

8 heatpipes... wub.gif
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8 meh? I thought 4 in U shape
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post Nov 22 2006, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(neoxz @ Nov 22 2006, 07:47 PM)
8 meh? I thought 4 in U shape
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Sama la tu...
Then, why do CoolerMaster calls hyper 6+ as hyper 6?
When in the real world, it utilize 3 heatpipes in u shape? No? laugh.gif
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post Nov 22 2006, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 22 2006, 08:39 PM)
Sama la tu...
Then, why do CoolerMaster calls hyper 6+ as hyper 6?
When in the real world, it utilize 3 heatpipes in u shape? No? laugh.gif
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Where got same? u gila ka? next time u do garage sale, i buy from u half price la
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post Nov 22 2006, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(neoxz @ Nov 22 2006, 08:59 PM)
Where got same? u gila ka? next time u do garage sale, i buy from u half price la
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Err...
What do you mean by saying that?

Ok, here's what i'm trying to explain earlier...

Ok, CoolerMaster Hyper 6 & Hyper 6+ utilize 3 heatpipe in U shapes, but, they said that it uses 6 heatpipes

So basically, i'm not at all wrong...
If CoolerMaster can call that heatsink that uses 3 heatpipe by the name of Hyper 6, then i want to say that heatsink as utilizing 8 heatpipe... laugh.gif
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post Nov 22 2006, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 22 2006, 09:18 PM)
Err...
What do you mean by saying that?

Ok, here's what i'm trying to explain earlier...

Ok, CoolerMaster Hyper 6 & Hyper 6+ utilize 3 heatpipe in U shapes, but, they said that it uses 6 heatpipes

So basically, i'm not at all wrong...
If CoolerMaster can call that heatsink that uses 3 heatpipe by the name of Hyper 6, then i want to say that heatsink as utilizing 8 heatpipe... laugh.gif
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How do u know it's not 6 heatpipes all together leh? Y must u assume that it's 3 heatpipes in U for coolermaster?. Then y is scythe ninja's reviews stating that it's using 6 heatpipes? lol ... 1 heatpipe in U shape is still 1 heatpipe la .... rclxub.gif

This post has been edited by neoxz: Nov 22 2006, 10:42 PM
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post Nov 22 2006, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(neoxz @ Nov 22 2006, 10:38 PM)
How do u know it's not 6 heatpipes all together leh? Y must u assume that it's 3 heatpipes in U for coolermaster?. Then y is scythe ninja's reviews stating that it's using 6 heatpipes? lol ... 1 heatpipe in U shape is still 1 heatpipe la .... rclxub.gif
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Soalan Pulang Paku Buah Keras:

Then, how u know that noctua heatsink is 4 heatpipes in u shapes not 8 heatpipes? laugh.gif

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Nov 22 2006, 10:51 PM
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post Nov 22 2006, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 22 2006, 10:50 PM)
Soalan Pulang Paku Buah Keras:

Then, how u know that noctua heatsink is 4 heatpipes in u shapes not 8 heatpipes?  laugh.gif
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Because stated there on the website that it's 4 heatpipes. ???? hahahhaha rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Nov 22 2006, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(neoxz @ Nov 22 2006, 11:18 PM)
Because stated there on the website that it's 4 heatpipes. ???? hahahhaha rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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It state there as 4 Dual Heatpipes la... tongue.gif

Not 4 heatpipes...

It can be as maybe they're stating that 4 heatpipes on the left and 4 heatpipe on the right...

They didn't say 4 heatpipes, they said 4 Dual Heatpipes... laugh.gif
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post Nov 23 2006, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 22 2006, 11:26 PM)
It state there as 4 Dual Heatpipes la... tongue.gif

Not 4 heatpipes...

It can be as maybe they're stating that 4 heatpipes on the left and 4 heatpipe on the right...

They didn't say 4 heatpipes, they said 4 Dual Heatpipes... laugh.gif
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u go google, search reviews about it. 4 dual heatpipes doesn't mean 8 heatpipes.... blush.gif

http://www.a1-electronics.net/Heatsinks/20...H-U12_Jan.shtml
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It is not easy to see as in the earlier picture but this NH-U12 has 4 our heat pipes like its small brother NH-U9 cooler.


http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware.../noctua_NH-U12/
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The NH-U 12 is an absolute giant that is equipped with a robust cast/machined solid copper base. Clamped and soldered to this base are 4 copper heat pipes, each molded from 1/4" diameter thin walled copper tubing. Wrapped around those copper spires - 38 stamped aluminum cooling fins. This cooler is perfectly industrious in its nature.


http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/noctua/index.htm
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Here's a closer look on the base and the four u-shaped dual heat pipes, they form a total of eight risers that spread the heat throughout the fins. Both the coolers have 38 aluminium fins to dissipate the heat. On the NH-U9 there is a total surface area of 3800cm2 and on the NH-U12 a total of 5000cm2 of heat dissipating goodness.


http://www.overclockersonline.net/index.ph...&num=384&pnum=2
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Both of these heatsinks utilize four U-shaped heatpipes to transfer heat from the base of the heatsink up to the 38 aluminum fins attached to the heatpipes with soldered joints where fans attached with wire clips and anti-vibration strips can dissipate the heat. Like the vast majority of vertical heatsinks, though tall, they leave a relatively small footprint so there should be no compatibility issues with surrounding components.


I guess that's enough ? If u need more.. just let me know

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QUOTE(neoxz @ Nov 23 2006, 12:23 AM)
why u guys want to argue about that simple think???

whether it 4 heat pipes, or 4 dual heat pipes or 8 heatpipes,the design not change a lot....

the performance also same.only name are different...

haiya,u guys make me pening rclxub.gif rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 25 2006, 12:18 PM)
why u guys want to argue about that simple think???

whether it 4 heat pipes, or 4 dual heat pipes or 8 heatpipes,the design not change a lot....

the performance also same.only name are different...

haiya,u guys make me pening rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Who told you that different number of heatpipes makes the performance same? doh.gif

The Truth:
More heatpipe results to: Higher Performance which means, better heat conduction from the base to the fins...

Capiche? cool.gif
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post Nov 25 2006, 01:32 PM

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War of heat pipe now days ... last time about copper fin...

put aside how many heat pipe it has other factors also come into consideration .. such as length of pipe, material inside the pipe and how well it bond to the fins...of course design patten of fin also important

don't just comparing one factor while there are more to be considered....

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post Nov 25 2006, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Doom @ Nov 25 2006, 01:32 PM)
War of heat pipe now days ... last time about copper fin...

put aside how many heat pipe it has other factors also come into consideration .. such as length of pipe, material inside the pipe and  how well it bond to the fins...of course design patten of fin also important

don't just comparing one factor while there are more to be considered....
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Totally agree with U. Design, construction, built, fan used, mounting method, contact surface, material used and etc all play important part in making a best cooler. Ignoring other factors is a shortsighted view/opinion.
Capiche? cool.gif

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post Nov 26 2006, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Nov 25 2006, 02:12 PM)
Totally agree with U. Design, construction, built, fan used, mounting method, contact surface, material used and etc all play important part in making a best cooler. Ignoring other factors is a shortsighted view/opinion.
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Question:

a)what fin design give more performance?

b)what is mean by contact method?can give some example?

c)contact surface refer to which part?between the chip and the heat sink or heat sink with the fan?

d)from all the factor mention,which type of cooler that had all that factor?


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post Nov 26 2006, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 26 2006, 09:43 AM)
Question:

a)what fin design give more performance?

b)what is mean by contact method?can give some example?

c)contact surface refer to which part?between the chip and the heat sink or heat sink with the fan?

d)from all the factor mention,which type of cooler that had all that factor?
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a)fin design i think he refers to the quantity and the size of the fins liek i mention before

b)contact method refers to mounting method i guess smile.gif

c)contact surface refers to the contact of the hsf base and the proc and also the contact between the base and the heatpipe and the heatpie with the fans.... they are all interelated smile.gif
some ppl claims that the smoothness of the hsf base also affect the performace.... thats why many ppl lap their hsf smile.gif
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QUOTE(sup3rfly @ Nov 26 2006, 10:22 AM)
a)fin design i think he refers to the quantity and the size of the fins liek i mention before

b)contact method refers to mounting method i guess smile.gif

c)contact surface refers to the contact of the hsf base and the proc and also the contact between the base and the heatpipe and the heatpie with the fans.... they are all interelated smile.gif
some ppl claims that the smoothness of the hsf base also affect the performace.... thats why many ppl lap their hsf smile.gif
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can you tell me more detail about what just you said except for the fin design(coz u had mentioned it in other thread)?
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QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 26 2006, 10:31 AM)
can you tell me more detail about what just you said except for the fin design(coz u had mentioned it in other thread)?
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hmmm the thinner the hsf base means the faster the heats get transferred from the cpu to the hsf base, if the contact of the heatpipes and the cpu base is very good as that means the heat get transferred to the heatpipe faster then the heatpipe will transfer the heat to the fin and the fin will be cooled down by the fan:)

cpu -> the hsf base -> heatpipes -> fins then fins cool down by the fan smile.gif

the smoother of the hsf base means the more contact between the cpu and the base....

hope this explains it biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sup3rfly @ Nov 26 2006, 10:38 AM)
hmmm the thinner the hsf base means the faster the heats get transferred from the cpu to the hsf base, if the contact of the heatpipes and the cpu base is very good as that means the heat get transferred to the heatpipe faster then the heatpipe will transfer the heat to the fin and the fin will be cooled down by the fan:)

cpu -> the hsf base -> heatpipes -> fins then fins cool down by the fan smile.gif

the smoother of the hsf base means the more contact between the cpu and the base....

hope this explains it  biggrin.gif
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oh thanx...i know a lot from you thumbup.gif

btw,how many contact method exist?can give me example or link?
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QUOTE(id86 @ Nov 26 2006, 10:43 AM)
oh thanx...i know a lot from you thumbup.gif

btw,how many contact method exist?can give me example or link?
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actually there is no specific contact method.... just the thickness of the hsf base and the connection between the heatpipes and the base smile.gif
i m not quite sure also.... sweat.gif

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