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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V60, From A to E mount!

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post Nov 17 2014, 03:20 AM

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QUOTE(edpaul @ Nov 16 2014, 03:47 PM)
yes, old hotshoe, the AM model. now still selling...
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Oh...wonder how can buy..any online shop? Hehe..can pm me where is it?
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Nov 16 2014, 05:45 PM)
Credit or M2U?  If M2U you sould get a response mail in a few hours max, check your spam folders if not.

Credit I dunno.

Nice a fellow A6k owner also heading to Japan. I'm due in a week plus.

On another note, I'm already feeling the pinch of a standard prime now - the SEL35 just doesn't feel wide enough for my style of shooting. Unfortunately the CZ24 is too far out of my reach.

I hope the rumored Sony APS-C 1.4/25mm E-mount lens is real, and turns out to be *not* totally crap and *not* astronomically expensive (glares at the CZ24). If it is, it'll pretty much be an instabuy for me.
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QUOTE(pbc06 @ Nov 16 2014, 09:03 PM)
I ordered the same lens last Tuesday... got it on Friday the same week. So i would say pretty fast.

Check your emails. You should receive 1 requesting for payment and another confirming your order.
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Thanks. Checked my email and nothing. Sent them an enquiry through their website yesterday and still nothing. :/


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QUOTE(Zephyr_Mage @ Nov 17 2014, 02:31 PM)
Thanks. Checked my email and nothing. Sent them an enquiry through their website yesterday and still nothing. :/
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just order at 12.30pm something, receive order confirmation email at 3pm, now payment done and waiting for my new lens biggrin.gif

btw, i pay thru credit card.
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Seriously...
Anywhere else can I get the lens at a reasonable price?
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post Nov 17 2014, 07:36 PM

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Hi, any recommended camera shop to get a6000 at klang valley at good price? Plan to get one by this week, thanks in advance!
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Anyone using color filter (red, blue, green) for A6000 B&W photos?
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QUOTE(bunnykiwie @ Nov 17 2014, 11:54 PM)
Anyone using color filter (red, blue, green) for A6000 B&W photos?
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There's no need for those filters anymore with digital photography.
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post Nov 18 2014, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(lwliam @ Nov 18 2014, 02:10 AM)
There's no need for those filters anymore with digital photography.
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because u dun use, not necessarily no need anymore


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QUOTE(bunnykiwie @ Nov 18 2014, 09:53 AM)
because u dun use, not necessarily no need anymore
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post Nov 18 2014, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(bunnykiwie @ Nov 18 2014, 09:53 AM)
because u dun use, not necessarily no need anymore
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He's kinda right. You can just shoot RAW and get whatever effects you want with PP.

That said, I kinda know what you mean - sometimes having the camera do it for you is a whole lot more convenient. Anyways, I did check, and unfortunately the A6k does not have built in color filters emulation like the XT1 or some Nikon cameras.

Quite a shame, emulated yellow or orange would've been fun for B&W. Sure you can PP the effects, but being able to live-view the outcome in the EVF on-the-fly would've been fun. Maybe tweaking WB in B&W would have a similar effect, though I'm not sure.

As for using physical color filters, it might not work as AWB might just screw up everything. Unless you preset WB *and then* use the filters. I haven't tried however, as it just sounds terribly bothersome.

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QUOTE(bunnykiwie @ Nov 17 2014, 11:54 PM)
Anyone using color filter (red, blue, green) for A6000 B&W photos?
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how do you use those color filter for B&W photos?care to explain...easiest way is to shoot RAW and do it in PS...
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QUOTE(hazril @ Nov 18 2014, 11:13 AM)
how do you use those color filter for B&W photos?care to explain...easiest way is to shoot RAW and do it in PS...
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Guess it could relate to this
http://www.photographymad.com/pages/view/u...ite-photography

I have a R25A red filter for 52mm thread lenses, though I rarely use it.

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QUOTE(bdrc @ Nov 18 2014, 11:58 AM)
Guess it could relate to this
http://www.photographymad.com/pages/view/u...ite-photography

I have a R25A red filter for 52mm thread lenses, though I rarely use it.
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rclxms.gif thats something nice to read and know
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QUOTE(bdrc @ Nov 18 2014, 11:58 AM)
Guess it could relate to this
http://www.photographymad.com/pages/view/u...ite-photography

I have a R25A red filter for 52mm thread lenses, though I rarely use it.
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QUOTE(hazril @ Nov 18 2014, 11:13 AM)
how do you use those color filter for B&W photos?care to explain...easiest way is to shoot RAW and do it in PS...
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Like Eiraku said, some cameras have the digital colour filter built in

It is in the menu, to be used for "monochrome" or B&W, so that certain filter will change the shades in greyscale, either darker or lighter.

user posted image

Of coz PS can do wonders, but to each its own

Some cameras now also have built in ND filter which makes ND filter unnecessary

And this goes back to saying PS can also do it post production.

So, it really depends, personal preference.

Summary: Im not good in PS laugh.gif






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QUOTE(bdrc @ Nov 18 2014, 11:58 AM)
Guess it could relate to this
http://www.photographymad.com/pages/view/u...ite-photography

I have a R25A red filter for 52mm thread lenses, though I rarely use it.
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A6000 is using 40.5mm & im trying to google..

How much did u pay for that?
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Yesterday, i had received my Nex battery and a free gift from sony.
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QUOTE(lwliam @ Nov 18 2014, 02:10 AM)
There's no need for those filters anymore with digital photography.
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Actually, there is, in the case of extremely saturated color in one channel e.g. red lighting where you either:
1) have blown reds and lots of tones in green and very little in blue (overexposing)
2) have lots of tones in bright reds, no tones in dark reds, and no tones in green or blue (underexposing)

A cyan filter will reduce the reds and allow you to expose longer to get more tones from green and blue. This is particularly useful in the case of strong red stage light where you can shoot at a low ISO. If you can afford a longer exposure, the filter will enhance your dynamic range.

Doing the same thing without a colored filter in RAW is convenient and possible, but you will get a lot of green and blue noise, and you squash red highlights into white (leaving blue/green to express tones in the highlights, which can look ugly.)
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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Nov 18 2014, 10:57 AM)
He's kinda right. You can just shoot RAW and get whatever effects you want with PP.

That said, I kinda know what you mean - sometimes having the camera do it for you is a whole lot more convenient. Anyways, I did check, and unfortunately the A6k does not have built in color filters emulation like the XT1 or some Nikon cameras.

Quite a shame, emulated yellow or orange would've been fun for B&W. Sure you can PP the effects, but being able to live-view the outcome in the EVF on-the-fly would've been fun. Maybe tweaking WB in B&W would have a similar effect, though I'm not sure.

As for using physical color filters, it might not work as AWB might just screw up everything. Unless you preset WB *and then* use the filters. I haven't tried however, as it just sounds terribly bothersome.
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Physical color filters CAN supplement AWB like using a blue filter in tungsten light. In sufficient light with the right filter, you allow weak channels to be longer exposed (e.g. blue) without blowing the dominant channel (e.g. red/green). What you lose in shutter speed you gain in dynamic range and noise.

Your sensor has a native WB (look up UniWB) and moving further away from it brings noise, as tweaking WB is merely a channel-specific gain.
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QUOTE(albnok @ Nov 19 2014, 12:33 PM)
Physical color filters CAN supplement AWB like using a blue filter in tungsten light. In sufficient light with the right filter, you allow weak channels to be longer exposed (e.g. blue) without blowing the dominant channel (e.g. red/green). What you lose in shutter speed you gain in dynamic range and noise.

Your sensor has a native WB (look up UniWB) and moving further away from it brings noise, as tweaking WB is merely a channel-specific gain.
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I got a question, what would be the advantage of using colored filter in digital sensor when taking B&W photo?

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