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 Proton Prevé V21, Versione ventuno!

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kulatkia
post Aug 21 2014, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Aug 21 2014, 01:47 PM)
It's already widely known, but many, while not legally obligated to follow, would worry about the warranty dispute should you go against the car manufacturer's 'recommendation'.
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Even widely known but still lots of owner here advise goes for every 5k for semi EO since it just an optional recommended by manufacturer.. Had double checked with SA, semi EO for last longer 10k is acceptable n not void any warranty. Anyhow I still choose to listen sifus here to change it after 5k for those semi EO since there are no firm answer for myself n I dare not taking risk at the moment. sad.gif
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post Aug 22 2014, 12:59 AM

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Red, where you install this gadget ? Penang ?
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buy online.fix it myself..
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post Aug 22 2014, 08:11 AM

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dashboard got crackling sound when driving, quite loud too,
even radio couldnt cover it,
anyone experiencing this?
kulatkia
post Aug 22 2014, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(hafizhans @ Aug 22 2014, 08:11 AM)
dashboard got crackling sound when driving, quite loud too,
even radio couldnt cover it,
anyone experiencing this?
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all the way driving? near to push start button?
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post Aug 22 2014, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(kulatkia @ Aug 22 2014, 08:18 AM)
all the way driving? near to push start button?
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yes..
not sure..but i think its not only at near push start button area
fyi mine is exec auto
theonlyvin
post Aug 22 2014, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(hafizhans @ Aug 22 2014, 08:11 AM)
dashboard got crackling sound when driving, quite loud too,
even radio couldnt cover it,
anyone experiencing this?
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Same to mine...quite loud...but mine come out randomly...

U try to push down the meter cluster panel, it was floating...suspected to be thr....

and also the card storage hole....

u have to pinpoint the exact location 1st and also to find out whether is the clip making the noise, or the panel making the noise...

i DIY mine, but yet not totally solved. Finding one day to do again

This post has been edited by theonlyvin: Aug 22 2014, 09:15 AM
hafizhans
post Aug 22 2014, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(theonlyvin @ Aug 22 2014, 09:12 AM)
Same to mine...quite loud...but mine come out randomly...

U try to push down the meter cluster panel, it was floating...suspected to be thr....

and also the card storage hole....

u have to pinpoint the exact location 1st and also to find out whether is the clip making the noise, or the panel making the noise...

i DIY mine, but yet not totally solved. Finding one day to do again
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yeah quite hard to pinpoint the source while driving
u didnt complain to SC?
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post Aug 22 2014, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(hafizhans @ Aug 22 2014, 09:35 AM)
yeah quite hard to pinpoint the source while driving
u didnt complain to SC?
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I did not complaint to them as will be ignored kaw kaw....

so, try myself la...not to say proton lah...

even i complaint on toyota, pun the SA direct reject my complaint as he say minor vibration and rattling is not claimable....zzz...stunning there, as when i say i want claim for something...=.=!!
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post Aug 22 2014, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(theonlyvin @ Aug 22 2014, 10:13 AM)
I did not complaint to them as will be ignored kaw kaw....

so, try myself la...not to say proton lah...

even i complaint on toyota, pun the SA direct reject my complaint as he say minor vibration and rattling is not claimable....zzz...stunning there, as when i say i want claim for something...=.=!!
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Yeah, typical Malaysians problem. If the problem didn't show up when you brought the car to SC, you are just lying or being nitpicking, this even applies to luxury cars SCs.

Only a handful of mechanics would go to extra length to identify the problem with you, luckily the one at my frequent SC are helpful.
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post Aug 22 2014, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(hafizhans @ Aug 22 2014, 08:29 AM)
yes..
not sure..but i think its not only at near push start button area
fyi mine is exec auto
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i see.. then yours one might be different as mine, mine one surrounding push start button area and on and off especially toy is vibrating (most of the time when toy start accelerating). it can be gone while just hard press the desk board but will back again haha... to date i'm still looking for the faulty part before heading to SC...
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post Aug 22 2014, 12:20 PM

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This how any turbo works. Even at the moment you start the car, it will be already spooling (spinning the turbine without providing any boost to the engine).. On our Preve, the turbo will provide boost from 2k rpm to 4k rpm (at 205nm flat due to our CVT gearbox).. after 4k rpm, turbo will still be running but torque will be reduced.. this boost can be altered by tuning but not recommended for our car due to the gearbox again..

In other cars, such as EVO (manual gearbox) turbo lag can be felt before the boost.. The engine performs only on certain boost or rpm.. For an example, in gear 5 at 50km/h, if pedal pressed down fully on an EVO, the car would not want to move forward.. it will feel sluggish, hence the need to change to a lower gear is needed.. but this is not applicable for a NA (naturally aspirated / without turbo) cars.. the same situation, the car will still move forward..

In some other cars, like previous gen Golf GTi, they used both supercharger and turbo as supercharger will provide the initial pickup force (torque) at lower rpm and the turbo at higher rpm..

in laymen term, Torque is important to provide the car the initial pickup and horsepower for the car to retain the speed or even pushing it to the top speed..

My two cent comment.. Sifu's can correct it.
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post Aug 22 2014, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(vikneswaranc_17 @ Aug 22 2014, 12:20 PM)
This how any turbo works. Even at the moment you start the car, it will be already spooling (spinning the turbine without providing any boost to the engine).. On our Preve, the turbo will provide boost from 2k rpm to 4k rpm (at 205nm flat due to our CVT gearbox).. after 4k rpm, turbo will still be running but torque will be reduced.. this boost can be altered by tuning but not recommended for our car due to the gearbox again..

In other cars, such as EVO (manual gearbox) turbo lag can be felt before the boost.. The engine performs only on certain boost or rpm.. For an example, in gear 5 at 50km/h, if pedal pressed down fully on an EVO, the car would not want to move forward.. it will feel sluggish, hence the need to change to a lower gear is needed.. but this is not applicable for a NA (naturally aspirated / without turbo) cars.. the same situation, the car will still move forward..

In some other cars, like previous gen Golf GTi, they used both supercharger and turbo as supercharger will provide the initial pickup force (torque) at lower rpm and the turbo at higher rpm..

in laymen term, Torque is important to provide the car the initial pickup and horsepower for the car to retain the speed or even pushing it to the top speed..

My two cent comment.. Sifu's can correct it.
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Thanks!

New to this car turbo thing. Need to know more to use my Preve properly.

Like to know:
a. 2 must do things and 2 must not do things for a driver to keep the turbo in top shape
b. I assume that turbo boost will kick in and kick out automatically, depending on the RPM. Right?
c. is it true that we need to let the engine cools down before switching off it off after a long turbo run? Risk of oil coking in the turbo set?
d. any other infor you think is important or useful.

Many thanks.
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post Aug 22 2014, 12:40 PM

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Finally, I get my car. Fire Red CVT Exec. SA already detected the 'helicopter' sound. He already ordered for me the brake, will change it next week. Good SA, I very recommend him.

Do PM me if you want to deal with him.
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post Aug 22 2014, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(vikneswaranc_17 @ Aug 22 2014, 12:20 PM)
This how any turbo works. Even at the moment you start the car, it will be already spooling (spinning the turbine without providing any boost to the engine).. On our Preve, the turbo will provide boost from 2k rpm to 4k rpm (at 205nm flat due to our CVT gearbox).. after 4k rpm, turbo will still be running but torque will be reduced.. this boost can be altered by tuning but not recommended for our car due to the gearbox again..

In other cars, such as EVO (manual gearbox) turbo lag can be felt before the boost.. The engine performs only on certain boost or rpm.. For an example, in gear 5 at 50km/h, if pedal pressed down fully on an EVO, the car would not want to move forward.. it will feel sluggish, hence the need to change to a lower gear is needed.. but this is not applicable for a NA (naturally aspirated / without turbo) cars.. the same situation, the car will still move forward..

In some other cars, like previous gen Golf GTi, they used both supercharger and turbo as supercharger will provide the initial pickup force (torque) at lower rpm and the turbo at higher rpm..

in laymen term, Torque is important to provide the car the initial pickup and horsepower for the car to retain the speed or even pushing it to the top speed..

My two cent comment.. Sifu's can correct it.
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post Aug 22 2014, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Aug 22 2014, 12:32 PM)
Thanks!

New to this car turbo thing. Need to know more to use my Preve properly.

Like to know:
a. 2 must do things and 2 must not do things for a driver to keep the turbo in top shape
just normal maintenance (changing engine oil and stuff) would do.. as ours is only soft turbo.. not those Garrett TD05 like in EVO X

b. I assume that turbo boost will kick in and kick out automatically, depending on the RPM. Right?
the turbo will kick in after 2k rpm all the way to redline

c.  is it true that we need to let the engine cools down before switching off it off after a long turbo run? Risk of oil coking in the turbo set?
That is why sometimes, the fan will run to cool off the turbo even after the car is off.. no worries on that.. last time, some would fix turbo timer (the car will be running a few seconds even after turning off the ignition..

d.  any other info you think is important or useful.
Enjoy the boost.. biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

Many thanks.
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post Aug 22 2014, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Aug 22 2014, 12:40 PM)
Finally, I get my car. Fire Red CVT Exec. SA already detected the 'helicopter' sound. He already ordered for me the brake, will change it next week. Good SA, I very recommend him.

Do PM me if you want to deal with him.
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Congrats bro for your new ride rclxms.gif
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post Aug 22 2014, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(DaBestOne @ Aug 22 2014, 02:25 PM)
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post Aug 22 2014, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Aug 22 2014, 04:39 PM)
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post Aug 22 2014, 10:43 PM

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Guys, quick question. Preve's gear indicator next to the gear knob (the P,N,R etc) doesn't have light issit?

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