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iwubpreve
post Sep 12 2014, 09:05 AM

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post Sep 12 2014, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Sep 12 2014, 09:05 AM)
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Hows your preve? Still gooding?
iwubpreve
post Sep 12 2014, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(ledtechn @ Sep 12 2014, 09:08 AM)
Hows your preve? Still gooding?
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well lot of problem but no choice, still have to drive la. I list down those problem here:

1. when u suddenly press brake pedal hard during speeding (usually it happen when the car in front suddenly slow down), the emergency signal will auto lighten up. What kind of weird safety feature is this?
2. it's normal to have cigarette lighter as power source at the dash board. Why on earth it provide another 1 for rear seat? Driver purposely go behind and use meh.
3. the rear seat and car trunk so big space, really a waste of space as it always empty in my car, damn it
4. power windows malfunction at first year. Though now fixed already by proton and have 10 year warranty, but still it's still considered a defect and make the car not perfect. Yes the power windows is fixed and no more issue already but still it's a shame that the car is not perfect fresh from oven at the beginning. damn!
5. so many fog light provided for car. Front fog light enough la, still provide rear fog light for what? so many button to press during raining on dashboard sometimes make me confuse
6. the air-cond damn cold la. even I switch to lowest fan it still freaking freezing. really not user friendly

7. if I would have write all my dissatisfaction of preve, it would be like writing an essay v 20k words already. so I shall stop here.
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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Sep 12 2014, 11:03 AM)
well lot of problem but no choice, still have to drive la. I list down those problem here:

1. when u suddenly press brake pedal hard during speeding (usually it happen when the car in front suddenly slow down), the emergency signal will auto lighten up. What kind of weird safety feature is this?
2. it's normal to have cigarette lighter as power source at the dash board. Why on earth it provide another 1 for rear seat? Driver purposely go behind and use meh.
3. the rear seat and car trunk so big space, really a waste of space as it always empty in my car, damn it
4. power windows malfunction at first year. Though now fixed already by proton and have 10 year warranty, but still it's still considered a defect and make the car not perfect. Yes the power windows is fixed and no more issue already but still it's a shame that the car is not perfect fresh from oven at the beginning. damn!
5. so many fog light provided for car. Front fog light enough la, still provide rear fog light for what? so many button to press during raining on dashboard sometimes make me confuse
6. the air-cond damn cold la. even I switch to lowest fan it still freaking freezing. really not user friendly

7. if I would have write all my dissatisfaction of preve, it would be like writing an essay v 20k words already. so I shall stop here.
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Sep 12 2014, 11:03 AM)
well lot of problem but no choice, still have to drive la. I list down those problem here:

1. when u suddenly press brake pedal hard during speeding (usually it happen when the car in front suddenly slow down), the emergency signal will auto lighten up. What kind of weird safety feature is this?
2. it's normal to have cigarette lighter as power source at the dash board. Why on earth it provide another 1 for rear seat? Driver purposely go behind and use meh.
3. the rear seat and car trunk so big space, really a waste of space as it always empty in my car, damn it
4. power windows malfunction at first year. Though now fixed already by proton and have 10 year warranty, but still it's still considered a defect and make the car not perfect. Yes the power windows is fixed and no more issue already but still it's a shame that the car is not perfect fresh from oven at the beginning. damn!
5. so many fog light provided for car. Front fog light enough la, still provide rear fog light for what? so many button to press during raining on dashboard sometimes make me confuse
6. the air-cond damn cold la. even I switch to lowest fan it still freaking freezing. really not user friendly

7. if I would have write all my dissatisfaction of preve, it would be like writing an essay v 20k words already. so I shall stop here.
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Harold2009
post Sep 12 2014, 11:32 AM

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Both car okay at least the sales price not exceed RM25 K, maybe I will buy one as backup car
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:38 AM

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i vote for proton iris, hopefully they won't make me disappointed again after so many years. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:44 AM

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I vote either of proton or perodua can achieve good FC at least 22KM/ liter petrol. This may a good economy car for normal daily use. smile.gif
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Sep 12 2014, 12:03 PM)
well lot of problem but no choice, still have to drive la. I list down those problem here:

2. it's normal to have cigarette lighter as power source at the dash board. Why on earth it provide another 1 for rear seat? Driver purposely go behind and use meh.
3. the rear seat and car trunk so big space, really a waste of space as it always empty in my car, damn it
4. power windows malfunction at first year. Though now fixed already by proton and have 10 year warranty, but still it's still considered a defect and make the car not perfect. Yes the power windows is fixed and no more issue already but still it's a shame that the car is not perfect fresh from oven at the beginning. damn!
5. so many fog light provided for car. Front fog light enough la, still provide rear fog light for what? so many button to press during raining on dashboard sometimes make me confuse

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For 2 - 5.... its not a problem at all just because the feature is there, and you under-utilised it. And its dumb also when those so called "problem" exist when go showroom and check the car out AND insist on getting it. And then complain stuff like "how come so much space behind?".


This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Sep 12 2014, 11:45 AM
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Sep 12 2014, 11:03 AM)
well lot of problem but no choice, still have to drive la. I list down those problem here:

1. when u suddenly press brake pedal hard during speeding (usually it happen when the car in front suddenly slow down), the emergency signal will auto lighten up. What kind of weird safety feature is this?  To warn others that your are braking hard?

2. it's normal to have cigarette lighter as power source at the dash board. Why on earth it provide another 1 for rear seat? Driver purposely go behind and use meh.
Nowadays the power source is for electronic device and not to light up the cigar! sweat.gif

3. the rear seat and car trunk so big space, really a waste of space as it always empty in my car, damn it
Big space cos this is a sedan.

4. power windows malfunction at first year. Though now fixed already by proton and have 10 year warranty, but still it's still considered a defect and make the car not perfect. Yes the power windows is fixed and no more issue already but still it's a shame that the car is not perfect fresh from oven at the beginning. damn!
This one I agree, proton QC still in stones age or songlap age.

5. so many fog light provided for car. Front fog light enough la, still provide rear fog light for what? so many button to press during raining on dashboard sometimes make me confuse
Obviously you dun believe in safety. In other countries it is mandatory to also have rear fog light to improve visibility in fog or heavy precipitation. And if ur vehicle is not stationary, it is a violation to on the hazard light.

6. the air-cond damn cold la. even I switch to lowest fan it still freaking freezing. really not user friendly
I hope u know there is a switch to off the aircon? FYI Proton is famous for uber good aircon.

7. if I would have write all my dissatisfaction of preve, it would be like writing an essay v 20k words already. so I shall stop here.
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 12 2014, 12:46 PM)

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Its like a apek buying a smartphone then returned to complain how come everything so complicated,... haiya.. so mafan I wanna make phone calls only. who design the crap phone anyway.




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post Sep 12 2014, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Sep 12 2014, 11:44 AM)
For 2 - 5.... its not a problem at all just because the feature is there, and you under-utilised it. And its dumb also when those so called "problem" exist when go showroom and check the car out AND insist on getting it. And then complain stuff like "how come so much space behind?".
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Sep 12 2014, 11:46 AM)

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he is being sarcastic
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(alanyuppie @ Sep 12 2014, 11:48 AM)
Its like a apek buying a smartphone then returned to complain how come everything so complicated,... haiya.. so mafan I wanna make phone calls only. who design the crap phone anyway.
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(iwubpreve @ Sep 12 2014, 11:03 AM)
well lot of problem but no choice, still have to drive la. I list down those problem here:

1. when u suddenly press brake pedal hard during speeding (usually it happen when the car in front suddenly slow down), the emergency signal will auto lighten up. What kind of weird safety feature is this?
2. it's normal to have cigarette lighter as power source at the dash board. Why on earth it provide another 1 for rear seat? Driver purposely go behind and use meh.
3. the rear seat and car trunk so big space, really a waste of space as it always empty in my car, damn it
4. power windows malfunction at first year. Though now fixed already by proton and have 10 year warranty, but still it's still considered a defect and make the car not perfect. Yes the power windows is fixed and no more issue already but still it's a shame that the car is not perfect fresh from oven at the beginning. damn!
5. so many fog light provided for car. Front fog light enough la, still provide rear fog light for what? so many button to press during raining on dashboard sometimes make me confuse
6. the air-cond damn cold la. even I switch to lowest fan it still freaking freezing. really not user friendly

7. if I would have write all my dissatisfaction of preve, it would be like writing an essay v 20k words already. so I shall stop here.
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knowing you wub your preve so much, glad you have so many problem with your preve thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by newmaster: Sep 12 2014, 12:10 PM
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post Sep 12 2014, 11:58 AM

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Damn, proton Iris 1.6 such fuel Guzzler engine, CVT auto variant drink 7.4 petrol for 100 km. (only 12- 13.33 km/ liter petrol) This is such most fuel guzzler car in small compact car segment. shakehead.gif 1.6 litre unit developing 105 hp at 5,750 rpm and 150 Nm at 3,750 rpm way too underpowered. No thanks for this such UN-econimical car. shakehead.gif

http://paultan.org/2014/09/08/proton-compa...ic-powertrains/
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post Sep 12 2014, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(Harold2009 @ Sep 12 2014, 11:58 AM)
Damn, proton Iris 1.6 such fuel Guzzler engine, CVT  auto variant drink 7.4 petrol for 100 km.  (only 12- 13.33 km/ liter petrol) This is such most fuel guzzler car in small compact car segment.  shakehead.gif 1.6 litre unit developing 105 hp at 5,750 rpm and 150 Nm at 3,750 rpm way too underpowered. No thanks for this such UN-econimical car.  shakehead.gif

http://paultan.org/2014/09/08/proton-compa...ic-powertrains/
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errr isn't all hatchback b-segment spec within this range?

try compare with Ford Fiesta (same segment same variant)

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998 cc EcoBoost three-cylinder turbo GDI mill, in its higher 125 PS at 6,000 rpm and 170 Nm at 1,400 to 4,500 rpm output tune

Read more: http://paultan.org/2014/05/02/ford-fiesta-.../#ixzz3D4S3IATK


mind you this is turbocharged 1.0 litre engine from ford, while proton probably using all new campro with VVT (not IAFM+, CPS or CFE from what i see)

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post Sep 12 2014, 12:09 PM

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Yeah, now 2014, Malaysia full of utter rubbish for both local and import car, due low quality build, bad fuel consumption, insane high price tag, comfortable compromise (Roof top noisy when raining, lower arm issue etc), better I buy second hand/ recond car 100% imported either Japan or Conti. vmad.gif vmad.gif
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post Sep 12 2014, 12:09 PM

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proton looks good....


but but the resale value.....


baik pilih perodua
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QUOTE(highwaykiller @ Sep 12 2014, 12:09 PM)
proton looks good....
but but the resale value.....
baik pilih perodua
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people like you should be smothered till death

RV? you like buying and selling depreciate asset? LMAO

and you people actually contribute this whole mess
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post Sep 12 2014, 12:11 PM

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Both are same even toyota, nowday resale value is really sucks almost 40% at least you will lose price when talking resale value.

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