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post Jun 7 2014, 10:41 PM, updated 7y ago

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The Suave. Coming soon in August 2014.

Serviced apartments.


* Note: This is not part of SJCC.

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post Jun 7 2014, 11:36 PM

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post Jun 7 2014, 11:57 PM

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Thank you for the information.....do you know which developer?
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post Jun 8 2014, 12:39 AM

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Thank you for the information.....do you know which developer?
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post Jun 8 2014, 09:14 AM

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Where is an exact location in Sabang Jaya?
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I am quite convinced that some units would be more than rm1kpsf.
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Distance to HTC?
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post Jun 8 2014, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(Asali @ Jun 8 2014, 09:14 AM)
Where is an exact location in Sabang Jaya?
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Between casa tiara and mesiniaga....
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post Jun 8 2014, 10:12 AM

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Between casa tiara and mesiniaga....
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Wow! Now the whole piece of land in front of the KTM railway got fully utilized shocking.gif
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post Jun 9 2014, 12:46 AM

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RM1.1kpsf ok boh?
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RM1.1kpsf ok boh?
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Yeah! Heard the average price is around there. A bit difficult to telan IMO. Isola seems like a good buy now.
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post Jun 9 2014, 02:00 PM

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The last parcel along the row from Aeon Big to Mesiniaga.
At RM 1.1K psf SD has to release more info to justify the asking price.
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QUOTE(rumahmurah @ Jun 9 2014, 02:00 PM)
The last parcel along the row from Aeon Big to Mesiniaga.
At RM 1.1K psf SD has to release more info to justify the asking price.
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SD: Becoz Kota Damansara already hit RM1.1kpsf long time ago. tongue.gif
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So all the other condo along the same stretch will play catch up on subsale price to match?

Time to look for potential subsale in that golden mile of Subang Jaya?

Cheapest...Olive?

When is Olive 2 launching?
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post Jun 9 2014, 03:07 PM

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""Golden Mile" in the Klang Valley very apt.
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post Jun 9 2014, 03:35 PM

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rm1kpsf...yikes.....better in Ara Damansara......if considering nearby location.....
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Park 51 Residency which is located just few kilometres away are still selling at around RM450-RM500psf for the basic unit. Will this RM1100psf brings some "pushing up" effects to it, say to RM650psf. If yes, it will be >RM200k gain for the 1143sf unit at Park 51, some more the Block C shall be completing soon (early next year?).
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QUOTE(alex14530 @ Jun 9 2014, 02:50 PM)
Park 51 Residency which is located just few kilometres away are still selling at around RM450-RM500psf for the basic unit. Will this RM1100psf brings some "pushing up" effects to it, say to RM650psf. If yes, it will be >RM200k gain for the 1143sf unit at Park 51, some more the Block C shall be completing soon (early next year?).
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Went there for a talk on TOD yest... guest speaker was this Feng Sui guy called (Joey something )so he was explainning those facing the HTC will be the best feng sui because facing the numerous interchanges infront of the Suave.... what a coincidence ar..... sacred ppl won't buy because of HTC so bring in the feng sui expert to see the surrounding nature to help to boost up sales.... haiya should have studied fengsui long time ago .. now sure already millionaire
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QUOTE(gordan76 @ Jun 9 2014, 04:40 PM)
Went there for a talk on TOD yest... guest speaker was this Feng Sui guy called  (Joey something )so he was explainning those facing the HTC will be the best feng sui because facing the numerous interchanges infront of the Suave.... what a coincidence ar..... sacred ppl won't buy because of HTC so bring in the feng sui expert to see the surrounding nature to help to boost up sales.... haiya should have studied fengsui long time ago .. now sure already millionaire
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huh? i thought near to HTC is bad in fengshui ?
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If Dato Joey Yap say facing HTC good feng shui n interchange then really lost respect

The electro-magnetic energy from the HTC will bring upheaval along the HTC line and good chi will not be able to stabilise and accumulate to benefit the location

The same with interchanges, the moving traffic and cars will disrupt the surrounding chi and result in instability in the energy force
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QUOTE(fast_coder @ Jun 9 2014, 03:49 PM)
huh? i thought near to HTC is bad in fengshui ?
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Well for those resident who planning to buy infront of the HTC , they can use the water element to sub due the fire from release from the HTC, some more he showed us the google map showing in the interchanges infront of the suave which he says is like a flow of water something, then infront got mountains , behind got mountains so suave in between so very good... but he did mention to buy higher units which is above the HTC... he he he higher means more pricey = SD more richer
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u see lah.....so good to be fengshui master........ bengkok pun can say till 'straight'......he WIN all lah....

I doubt he will something bad abt this SD project o not.....bxllshits only.......conflict of interest talk....
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duh, the feng shui master is hired by the developer to speak. sure lah say good stuff about everything.

he can't possibly say bad stuff about the property when he's being paid by the developer themselves to speak.

all these feng shui masters speaking in developer events are just marketing crap.
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post Jun 10 2014, 09:50 AM

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Interested to see the success of the Suave.

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post Jun 10 2014, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 10 2014, 09:50 AM)
Interested to see the success of the Suave.
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Pobably good to look at subsales for Isola, Saujana Residence Residency ...

By the way, did anyone notice that Olives was repainted? looks better now.
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QUOTE(JChoo @ Jun 10 2014, 10:00 AM)
Pobably good to look at subsales for Isola, Saujana Residence Residency ...

By the way, did anyone notice that Olives was repainted?  looks better now.
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I always love Saujana Residency among the whole Dubang condos and I a bit regret to cancel my booking for The Isola smallest unit.

But Isola seems slow pace and the sizes here are as big as those in Olives which fetch lower price although in a same row. Meanwhile, Saujana also consists a lot of bigger units so not a direct competition to Suave.
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too much. Rather buy mesiniaga.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 10 2014, 10:07 AM)
I always love Saujana Residency among the whole Dubang condos and I a bit regret to cancel my booking for The Isola smallest unit.

But Isola seems slow pace and the sizes here are as big as those in Olives which fetch lower price although in a same row. Meanwhile, Saujana also consists a lot of bigger units so not a direct competition to Suave.
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loved Saujana Residency when it was launched... also went to a subsale unit last year...

from the outside i still think its stunning... but when you are inside... not so pleasant... very old and somewhat run down...

during that time Tropics@Tropicana City Mall too was launched... after so many years, Tropics seems like better maintained...
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QUOTE(kenji1903 @ Jun 10 2014, 12:18 PM)
loved Saujana Residency when it was launched... also went to a subsale unit last year...

from the outside i still think its stunning... but when you are inside... not so pleasant... very old and somewhat run down...

during that time Tropics@Tropicana City Mall too was launched... after so many years, Tropics seems like better maintained...
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Yes, agree with you. Was deciding between SR and SSQ, eventually bought SSQ instead. Maintenance and Securtiy is rather poor in SR...inside look gloomy, and run down. Guards all foreigher and i manage to enter rather easily, all the way to front of the unit without any problem.
Location is superb, too bad not well maintain. Wonder what is the JMB doing .....
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QUOTE(JChoo @ Jun 10 2014, 12:22 PM)
Yes, agree with you.  Was deciding between SR and SSQ, eventually bought SSQ instead.  Maintenance and Securtiy is rather poor in SR...inside look gloomy, and run down.  Guards all foreigher and i manage to enter rather easily, all the way to front of the unit without any problem.
Location is superb, too bad not well maintain.  Wonder what is the JMB doing .....
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exactly... such a pity, its a nice place at a nice location...
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have they demolish SR's tennis court?
the lrt tracks was suppose to go in between SR and Empire by acquiring part of SR.

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1100 psft in subang jaya.......OMG......
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1100psf? Omg! Thats make property in kl city center like robertson dirt cheap at 1000psf.
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Selling price : RM 858888 (min) - RM1443888 (max)

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Size : 624sf - 1001sf

Really crazy!
It's more than 1100psf!!!

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post Oct 17 2014, 12:21 PM

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when the prices of isola released, we already said super crazy lioa...

now looked back, goona kick yourself not buying into isola.

fast forward 4 years later, we shall kick ourselves for not getting into Suave loh....

when is subang parade due for redevelopment???? pretty dated now...over 20 years lioa.
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QUOTE(mike88tan @ Oct 16 2014, 09:55 PM)
Size : 624sf - 1001sf

Really crazy!
It's more than 1100psf!!!

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mad investors will buy and say in 4 years will be 1.5k icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif that time we all laugh cos it might not even cover the selling price... be reasonable.. 600 sqft 1 bedder can hardly rent 3k la.. tropicana gardens look like a steal now being in a PRIME location with top FnB n MRT nearby!

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QUOTE(mike88tan @ Oct 17 2014, 11:55 AM)
Size : 624sf - 1001sf

Really crazy!
It's more than 1100psf!!!

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I asked this morning and was told price not confirmed yet, indicative price around 1,000-1,100psf which I think probably "doable" given the location and the size of the unit
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QUOTE(tanm @ Oct 17 2014, 01:22 PM)
I asked this morning and was told price not confirmed yet, indicative price around 1,000-1,100psf which I think probably "doable" given the location and the size of the unit
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Oct 17 2014, 12:21 PM)
when the prices of isola released, we already said super crazy lioa...

now looked back, goona kick yourself not buying into isola.

fast forward 4 years later, we shall kick ourselves for not getting into Suave loh....

when is subang parade due for redevelopment???? pretty dated now...over 20 years lioa.
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Another TOD project coming up nearby in USJ called SJ7 - lets see whether the psft is higher or The Suave's one higher? shocking.gif

The TOD project in PH should be lower, maybe RM700+psft?

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624sf x 1100 = rm686,400. Good buy?
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QUOTE(BRE @ Oct 17 2014, 06:14 PM)
Another TOD project coming up nearby in USJ called SJ7 - lets see whether the psft is higher or The Suave's one higher? shocking.gif

The TOD project in PH should be lower, maybe RM700+psft?
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SJ7 at USJ? Not part of SJCC ah?

Mind to share which part of USJ?


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SJ7 at USJ? Not part of SJCC ah?

Mind to share which part of USJ?
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Opposite da:men, next to a shell station. Currently is a sime darby factory
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Opposite da:men, next to a shell station. Currently is a sime darby factory
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Oh, the land behind Shell which next to the SD what Energy & Utilities ?

I almost shocked bcz another Shell directly opposite DaMen where got space beside it. Lol.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Oct 18 2014, 02:40 AM)
Oh, the land behind Shell which next to the SD what Energy & Utilities ?

I almost shocked bcz another Shell directly opposite DaMen where got space beside it. Lol.
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Wisma Sime Darby@Energy&Utilities......my ex office smile.gif
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Oct 18 2014, 10:45 AM)
Wisma Sime Darby@Energy&Utilities......my ex office smile.gif
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Yup boss, big piece of land here! thumbup.gif
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So expensive!!! So this raise profile for all Subang condos? Might as well buy subsale there lar. Some Darby really fishing and trying their luck.
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QUOTE(BRE @ Oct 20 2014, 03:29 PM)
Yup  boss, big piece of land here! thumbup.gif
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1500 psft for this  brows.gif  brows.gif
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shocking.gif rclxub.gif I thought SJCC's location more prime than SJ7 because the former is nearer to Federal highway with a few shopping malls nearby boss?

So maybe SJ7 will be priced lower la, maybe 800-900psft??? brows.gif

SDP will be launching SOHO in PH next year, price maybe 700psft? nod.gif
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QUOTE(BRE @ Oct 24 2014, 02:18 PM)
shocking.gif  rclxub.gif  I thought SJCC's location more prime than SJ7 because the former is nearer to Federal  highway with a few shopping malls nearby boss?

So maybe SJ7 will be priced lower la, maybe 800-900psft??? brows.gif

SDP will be launching SOHO in PH next year near the LRT hub, price maybe 700psft? nod.gif
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QUOTE(BRE @ Oct 24 2014, 01:18 PM)
shocking.gif  rclxub.gif  I thought SJCC's location more prime than SJ7 because the former is nearer to Federal  highway with a few shopping malls nearby boss?

So maybe SJ7 will be priced lower la, maybe 800-900psft??? brows.gif

SDP will be launching SOHO in PH next year, price maybe 700psft? nod.gif
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QUOTE(Kicimiao66cc @ Oct 17 2014, 11:26 PM)
624sf x 1100 = rm686,400. Good buy?
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Depend on what is ur expectation on rental yield? 684sqf, studio unit? able to rent out in 3k?

Well, Im in property line and specialize in Subang Olives, currently olive unit still able to get in 490psqf to 550psqf, depend on furnish, their concept is come with studio unit as well.

I feel RM 1100 psqf quote in Subang is consider high, as condo in surrounding Subang only at average 500psqf, is almost double up, if after completion, how much plan to sell? RM 1200 psqf?

Currently those investor who invest in Parkhomes are struggle in renting out, certain owner rent at 2800 for 3 room unit.

From my point of view, if the price is RM 1100psqf, better get other project in KL area.

Somemore foreigner must buy at least 2mil above in Petaling Jaya area, so everyone can expect how is the capital appreciate in PJ compare to KL....

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Depend on what is ur expectation on rental yield? 684sqf, studio unit? able to rent out in 3k?

Well, Im in property line and specialize in Subang Olives, currently olive unit still able to get in 490psqf to 550psqf, depend on furnish, their concept is come with studio unit as well.

I feel RM 1100 psqf quote in Subang is consider high, as condo in surrounding Subang only at average 500psqf, is almost double up, if after completion, how much plan to sell? RM 1200 psqf?

Currently those investor who invest in Parkhomes are struggle in renting out, certain owner rent at 2800 for 3 room unit.

From my point of view, if the price is RM 1100psqf, better get other project in KL area.

Somemore foreigner must buy at least 2mil above in Petaling Jaya area, so everyone can expect how is the capital appreciate in PJ compare to KL....
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this suave sure lose money. No market for 3k or 2.5k studios in Subang laa.. i wish all the investors good luck thinking property prices are gona continue UUU at the same rate like last time..

Good Luck guys.. if Peri wanna ask me., velocity win this one hands down.. Subang got little growth potential..
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Oct 25 2014, 11:31 PM)
this suave sure lose money. No market for 3k or 2.5k studios in Subang laa.. i wish all the investors good luck thinking property prices are gona continue UUU at the same rate like last time..

Good Luck guys.. if Peri wanna ask me., velocity win this one hands down.. Subang got little growth potential..
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QUOTE(irenechong85 @ Oct 25 2014, 11:26 PM)
Depend on what is ur expectation on rental yield? 684sqf, studio unit? able to rent out in 3k?

Well, Im in property line and specialize in Subang Olives, currently olive unit still able to get in 490psqf to 550psqf, depend on furnish, their concept is come with studio unit as well.

I feel RM 1100 psqf quote in Subang is consider high, as condo in surrounding Subang only at average 500psqf, is almost double up, if after completion, how much plan to sell? RM 1200 psqf?

Currently those investor who invest in Parkhomes are struggle in renting out, certain owner rent at 2800 for 3 room unit.

From my point of view, if the price is RM 1100psqf, better get other project in KL area.

Somemore foreigner must buy at least 2mil above in Petaling Jaya area, so everyone can expect how is the capital appreciate in PJ compare to KL....
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when is subang parade due for redevelopment???? pretty dated now...over 20 years lioa.
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when is subang parade due for redevelopment???? pretty dated now...over 20 years lioa.
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no need link la...walking distance oledi sweat.gif sweat.gif
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no need link la...walking distance oledi sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Depend on what is ur expectation on rental yield? 684sqf, studio unit? able to rent out in 3k?

Well, Im in property line and specialize in Subang Olives, currently olive unit still able to get in 490psqf to 550psqf, depend on furnish, their concept is come with studio unit as well.

I feel RM 1100 psqf quote in Subang is consider high, as condo in surrounding Subang only at average 500psqf, is almost double up, if after completion, how much plan to sell? RM 1200 psqf?

Currently those investor who invest in Parkhomes are struggle in renting out, certain owner rent at 2800 for 3 room unit.

From my point of view, if the price is RM 1100psqf, better get other project in KL area.

Somemore foreigner must buy at least 2mil above in Petaling Jaya area, so everyone can expect how is the capital appreciate in PJ compare to KL....
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Hi, how true that a flyover linking Federal Highway to that plot of empty next to Olives will be built? Below 600psf is worth the money i would say...

In my humble opinion, The Suave is over priced. With a built up of 600+sf -1001sf, it will most likely attract young working adults with a small family. Now the question is how many young working adults can afford this?

I'm definitely with you.RM1100psf is better to get other projects within Klang Valley.
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QUOTE(yltoh @ Oct 26 2014, 10:19 PM)
Hi, how true that a flyover linking Federal Highway to that plot of empty next to Olives will be built? Below 600psf is worth the money i would say...

In my humble opinion, The Suave is over priced. With a built up of 600+sf -1001sf, it will most likely attract young working adults with a small family. Now the question is how many young working adults can afford this?

I'm definitely with you.RM1100psf is better to get other projects within Klang Valley.
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Eventually, the market will determine the selling price. As I see it, the project won't be anywhere near the affordable range for many contemplating to buy a place to stay and start a family. Just my 2 sen.
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QUOTE(rumahmurah @ Oct 27 2014, 05:22 PM)
Eventually, the market will determine the selling price. As I see it, the project won't be anywhere near the affordable range for many contemplating to buy a place to stay and start a family. Just my 2 sen.
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Usj side Sime Darby Sj7 project plan to sell 750 psf seems like better buy than this right? But Subang Avenue subsale already 900 psf for studio and 7xx psf for condo size.

If such an old condo subsale price so good I guess the Suave price sort of justified based on that.
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Oct 29 2014, 09:18 AM)
Usj side Sime Darby Sj7 project plan to sell 750 psf seems like better buy than this right? But Subang Avenue subsale already 900 psf for studio and 7xx psf for condo size.

If such an old condo subsale price so good I guess the Suave price sort of justified based on that.
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There is a thread on lowyat. Looks like 550 sq ft studios and 1000 sq ft condos.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3212678/all
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There is a thread on lowyat. Looks like 550 sq ft studios and 1000 sq ft condos.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3212678/all
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QUOTE(yltoh @ Oct 26 2014, 08:19 AM)
Hi, how true that a flyover linking Federal Highway to that plot of empty next to Olives will be built? Below 600psf is worth the money i would say...

In my humble opinion, The Suave is over priced. With a built up of 600+sf -1001sf, it will most likely attract young working adults with a small family. Now the question is how many young working adults can afford this?

I'm definitely with you.RM1100psf is better to get other projects within Klang Valley.
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yes this is really a joke.. 1.1k can get tropicana gardens and all but i wouldn't buy any 'overpriced' prop like this now because i'm very sure the potential upside is limited...

I think Sime n their TOD is very hyped up.. at this price i'd rather live close to my office than take multiple trains to my office.. moreover, taking a LRT from subang to KLCC will be VERY long n tenants would rather live closer to their office..

Yet again, I'll say GOOD LUCK notworthy.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Oct 29 2014, 11:03 AM)
yes this is really a joke.. 1.1k can get tropicana gardens and all but i wouldn't buy any 'overpriced' prop like this now because i'm very sure the potential upside is limited...

I think Sime n their TOD is very hyped up.. at this price i'd rather live close to my office than take multiple trains to my office.. moreover, taking a LRT from subang to KLCC will be VERY long n tenants would rather live closer to their office..

Yet again, I'll say GOOD LUCK  notworthy.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Tropicana Gardens is around RM1,300psf now. Before discount.

Even the asking price of Uptown small units is about RM1,300psf now.
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Tropicana Gardens is around RM1,300psf now. Before discount.

Even the asking price of Uptown small units is about RM1,300psf now.
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Oct 29 2014, 10:18 AM)
Usj side Sime Darby Sj7 project plan to sell 750 psf seems like better buy than this right? But Subang Avenue subsale already 900 psf for studio and 7xx psf for condo size.

If such an old condo subsale price so good I guess the Suave price sort of justified based on that.
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Yeah, SJ7 seems like a better buy as it's not located next to a busy highway. Furthermore, SJ7 is linked to the LRT and BRT stations.

If SJ7 is priced at 750psft, I guess the TOD in PH should be priced lower at maybe 650psft I guess?
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Dunno looks like Sj7 going to be completed in 2024, Putra Heights even later than that. Sime likely going to dev Sjcc first then Sj7 then Putra Heights.

Hopefully since SJ7 is cheaper Putra Heights may have hope to be about 600 psf.
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Oct 29 2014, 11:03 AM)
yes this is really a joke.. 1.1k can get tropicana gardens and all but i wouldn't buy any 'overpriced' prop like this now because i'm very sure the potential upside is limited...

I think Sime n their TOD is very hyped up.. at this price i'd rather live close to my office than take multiple trains to my office.. moreover, taking a LRT from subang to KLCC will be VERY long n tenants would rather live closer to their office..

Yet again, I'll say GOOD LUCK  notworthy.gif  icon_idea.gif
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never kno this project is the part of SJCC......... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

wondering how big is the SJCC Mall?? Bigger than One Utama and Mid Valley?? icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Oct 30 2014, 08:36 AM)
Dunno looks like Sj7 going to be completed in 2024, Putra Heights even later than that. Sime likely going to dev Sjcc first then Sj7 then Putra Heights.

Hopefully since SJ7 is cheaper Putra Heights may have hope to be about 600 psf.
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never kno this project is the part of SJCC......... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

wondering how big is the SJCC Mall?? Bigger than One Utama and Mid Valley?? icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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Not likely la boss as it appears that the land is quite small, I guess it will just be some retail outlets only, no big malls.
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Not likely la boss as it appears that the land is quite small, I guess it will just be some retail outlets only, no big malls.
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how many acre in total??
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No idea boss, probably less than an acre in total. Already got Empire & Subang Parade lo, so should be enough malls lo there!
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No idea boss, probably less than an acre in total. Already got Empire & Subang Parade lo, so should be enough malls lo there!
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never kno this project is the part of SJCC......... rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

wondering how big is the SJCC Mall?? Bigger than One Utama and Mid Valley?? icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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they better scrap their mall plans or face losses.. The area got enough malls d..
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they better scrap their mall plans or face losses.. The area got enough malls d..
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SJCC as can be seen from the pix consists a SOHO called Glitz, and a shopping mall (potentially offices and residential) called UnionPlace. When fully developed, I suppose SS16/1 will be a transport, shopping , office and residential hub.

Am struggling with The Suave, the price seems to be on the high size. The was my view of Isola, Saujana Residency and Subang Avenue as well.....

I didn't buy when launch, ended up getting a couple via sub-sale, paying almost double

Rental in SS16 (except Olive which is at the ned) is better than Many areas

Suave is at another end with flyovers, and not exactly central

Perhaps will wait for Glitz or UnionPlace

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SJCC as can be seen from the pix consists a SOHO called Glitz, and a shopping mall (potentially offices and residential) called UnionPlace. When fully developed, I suppose SS16/1 will be a transport, shopping , office and residential hub.

Am struggling with The Suave, the price seems to be on the high size. The was my view of Isola, Saujana Residency and Subang Avenue as well.....

I didn't buy when launch, ended up getting a couple via sub-sale, paying almost double

Rental in SS16 (except Olive which is at the ned) is better than Many areas

Suave is at another end with flyovers, and not exactly central

Perhaps will wait for Glitz or UnionPlace

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[quote=PeriPeri2014,Nov 5 2014, 12:45 PM]
but all medium siaz wor...... sad.gif


All are small sizes i would say.
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[quote=yltoh,Nov 8 2014, 12:31 PM]
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but all medium siaz wor...... sad.gif
All are small sizes i would say.
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Union Place @ Subang Jaya City Centre - >1 mil sq ft mall

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Crazy price. The malls is good news to me, as I'll be living nearby but as many have mentioned, the surrounding area condo's are barely hitting 500-600psf, how would they sell it at 1k?
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Union Place @ Subang Jaya City Centre - >1 mil sq ft mall

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Crazy price. The malls is good news to me, as I'll be living nearby but as many have mentioned, the surrounding area condo's are barely hitting 500-600psf, how would they sell it at 1k?
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Correction, the only condo between rm500-600psf is Subang Olives (which is at the opposite end of ss16). The rest are going for nothing less than rm600.

My take is that Suave is definitely a buy for those with higher risk profile (if buying for investment). If Sime Darby executes it correctly and the end product is high end luxury living, i don't see why the price wont appreciate.

In terms of rental, i'll compare with Saujana Residency(its a more like to like comparison compared to casa tiara which is basically student play). Studio 585 sqf rm2500, 740sqf rm3000, 883 sqf rm3500. 1360 sqf rm4000, 1517sq rm4600, 1746sqf rm5k-5500. These are sample rentals that i closed past 12 months.

Whether its good to invest in Suave, i suggest you do your research and don't believe everything u read in forums as its biased with personal views. You know your risk profile, you decide and reap wat u sow smile.gif
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QUOTE(Deepster @ Nov 10 2014, 06:12 PM)
Correction, the only condo between rm500-600psf is Subang Olives (which is at the opposite end of ss16). The rest are going for nothing less than rm600.

My take is that Suave is definitely a buy for those with higher risk profile (if buying for investment). If Sime Darby executes it correctly and the end product is high end luxury living, i don't see why the price wont appreciate.

In terms of rental, i'll compare with Saujana Residency(its a more like to like comparison compared to casa tiara which is basically student play). Studio 585 sqf rm2500, 740sqf rm3000, 883 sqf rm3500. 1360 sqf rm4000, 1517sq rm4600, 1746sqf rm5k-5500. These are sample rentals that i closed past 12 months.

Whether its good to invest in Suave, i suggest you do your research and don't believe everything u read in forums as its biased with personal views. You know your risk profile, you decide and reap wat u sow smile.gif
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How is Isola doing? The only thing similar would be Saujana, Isola and Parkhomes and maybe One Subang? (disclosure: I own a unit in SPH), and the last I check, none of them touching rm800psf. While the area is central, the surroundings does not allude anything worth what I personally thing a 1k psf place should feels like, especially given their immediate neighbours.

As you said, this is an incredibly high risk profile investment, my question was, what angle would they try to sell it, and what angle would one choose to buy it compared to other areas which I guess would give much better yield?
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QUOTE(rambo8 @ Nov 10 2014, 08:17 PM)
this project named after the shirt brand haha like this oso can?
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QUOTE(tanm @ Nov 8 2014, 08:28 AM)
SJCC as can be seen from the pix consists a SOHO called Glitz, and a shopping mall (potentially offices and residential) called UnionPlace. When fully developed, I suppose SS16/1 will be a transport, shopping , office and residential hub.

Am struggling with The Suave, the price seems to be on the high size. The was my view of Isola, Saujana Residency and Subang Avenue as well.....

I didn't buy when launch, ended up getting a couple via sub-sale, paying almost double

Rental in SS16 (except Olive which is at the ned) is better than Many areas

Suave is at another end with flyovers, and not exactly central

Perhaps will wait for Glitz or UnionPlace

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Suave is next to TNB high tension and the new TNB substation.
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QUOTE(webby88 @ Nov 11 2014, 09:32 PM)
Suave is next to TNB high tension and the new TNB substation.
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HTC no longer there, moved away. Only next to new substation, which is probably quite nice looking as far as substations go.
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can they use a name which is patented to an apparel brand?? why dont they just call it starbucks residences!
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Can call Paparich Resi bor??
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HTC no longer there, moved away.  Only next to new substation, which is probably quite nice looking as far as substations go.
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Suave is an English word meaning confident plus elegant.

Not referring to any other brand. It is simply an adjective (English lesson).
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Suave is an English word meaning confident plus elegant.

Not referring to any other brand. It is simply an adjective (English lesson).
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Is this name already approved by MPSJ? Or upon project completion SD have to apply?
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aiya just call periperi residence lo haha
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If not mistaken SUAVE is between Casa Tiara and the Mesiniaga Building which is about 150+ metres from the HTC tower that is beside the sub-station and the overhead cables fan out towards Fed. H'Way. from the HTC tower.
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QUOTE(rumahmurah @ Nov 12 2014, 06:35 PM)
If not mistaken SUAVE is between Casa Tiara and the Mesiniaga Building which is about 150+ metres from the HTC tower that is beside the sub-station and the overhead cables fan out towards Fed. H'Way. from the HTC tower.
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the land 13 acre infornt of Isola Condo is for SJCC mall??
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Who is the developer?
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The Suave. Coming soon in August 2014.

Serviced apartments.
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Postpone again, now to March 2015

I supposed responses for the pre-registration not encouraging enough

Lower the price, perhaps that will help

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QUOTE(tanm @ Dec 15 2014, 12:53 PM)
Postpone again, now to March 2015

I supposed responses for the pre-registration not encouraging enough

Lower the price, perhaps that will help
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see bunting everyway in Subang......launching postpone March 2015?? or after GST?? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Boss peri-peri, you are staying in SJ/USJ? biggrin.gif SA confirmed it will be launched in March.
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Boss peri-peri, you are staying in SJ/USJ? biggrin.gif  SA confirmed it will be launched in March.
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Boss peri-peri, you are staying in SJ/USJ? biggrin.gif  SA confirmed it will be launched in March.
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I stay nearby the Subang Empire, just wondering this Suave will launch at wat price  blush.gif
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min 1100 psft  flex.gif  flex.gif  flex.gif
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Super crazy high price...
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Super crazy high price...
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Yah, they are banking on the TOD concept ma, some more they propose to build a small mall there I think! No risk no gain lo!

If Suave is really selling at 1100psft, I can't imagine the price for the TOD project in SJ & PH! shocking.gif Anyway, the 1st TOD project in PH will be launched tentatively next year June, lets see the price icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(BRE @ Dec 23 2014, 07:25 AM)
Yah, they are banking on the TOD concept ma, some more they propose to build a small mall there I think! No risk no gain lo!

If Suave is really selling at 1100psft, I can't imagine the price for the TOD project in SJ & PH! shocking.gif Anyway, the 1st TOD project in PH will be launched tentatively next year June, lets see the price icon_rolleyes.gif
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why the put TOD concept?? wat means??
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why the put TOD concept?? wat means??
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It means people that can afford condos that costs 1.1k wI'll use public transport....biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Dec 22 2014, 11:07 PM)
min 1100 psft  flex.gif  flex.gif  flex.gif
SDP= always future price  rclxub.gif
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salary cant cope, the price,
its fully furnish like icon city?
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Dec 23 2014, 08:52 AM)
why the put TOD concept?? wat means??
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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Dec 23 2014, 10:30 AM)
It means people that can afford condos that costs 1.1k wI'll use public transport....biggrin.gif
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The LRT will just be an alternative mode of transport la bro! Lets say you are staying in The Suave condo & if you feel like going to KLCC for shopping but dont want to pay their crazy parking rates and get caught in the jam, then can take the LRT lo to go there! thumbup.gif

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The pricing is debatable but the location is final.
My take is that at the end of the day there will be takers and there will be others who will give it a miss.
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QUOTE(BRE @ Dec 23 2014, 12:16 PM)
The LRT will just be an alternative mode of transport la bro! Lets say you are staying in The Suave condo & if you feel like going to KLCC for shopping but dont want to pay their crazy parking rates and get caught in the jam, then can take the LRT lo to go there! thumbup.gif
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he do have a point,
you can paid RM1.1k sqf, you already can afford more high end car
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he do have a point,
you can paid RM1.1k sqf, you already can afford more high end car
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High end car still can't escape traffic jam and no parking
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QUOTE(korgiforlite @ Dec 23 2014, 12:04 PM)
salary cant cope, the price,
its fully furnish like icon city?
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Partially furnished with kitchen cabinet, hob & hood & water heater
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Partially furnished with kitchen cabinet, hob & hood & water heater
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Is Sime Darby going to launch or not???

Now already March 2015

Lower the price expectation

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QUOTE(tanm @ Dec 15 2014, 12:53 PM)
Postpone again, now to March 2015

I supposed responses for the pre-registration not encouraging enough

Lower the price, perhaps that will help
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Any news! Or postpone again?
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Any news! Or postpone again?
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Looks like it will not be launched in March? blush.gif SD now wants to see whether they want to launch Suave or North Brookes first! hmm.gif
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Looks like it will not be launched in March? blush.gif SD now wants to see whether they want to launch Suave or North Brookes first! hmm.gif
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boss,

If they mention wanna lower the price then i will register la.. or not ppl shldnt register, so they wont launch this HTC condo at ridiculous prices. In terms of location, btr buy subsale isola as its closer to the 2 main malls in the area biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Mar 9 2015, 09:04 AM)
boss,

If they mention wanna lower the price then i will register la.. or not ppl shldnt register, so they wont launch this HTC condo at ridiculous prices. In terms of location, btr buy subsale isola as its closer to the 2 main malls in the area  biggrin.gif
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The Isola really looks good atm.
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Isola current asking price is around RM1kpsf, do u think its a good deal if ppl can nego down to 950psf?
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Isola current asking price is around RM1kpsf, do u think its a good deal if ppl can nego down to 950psf?
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Omg!

I need to reset my expectation for all my condos dy, in case for sale.
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Sj 7 Union Square any news? 750 psf according to previous article, has SD revised this?
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Sj 7 Union Square any news? 750 psf according to previous article, has SD revised this?
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SDP concentrating on SJCC first now, SJ 7 will be later.
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Mar 9 2015, 03:25 PM)
Isola current asking price is around RM1kpsf, do u think its a good deal if ppl can nego down to 950psf?
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Bro, u sure Isola now asking for 1Kpsft? shocking.gif A lot of competition here from the old condos and upcoming ones in SJCC.
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Bro, u sure Isola now asking for 1Kpsft?  shocking.gif A lot of competition here from the old condos and upcoming ones in SJCC.
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bro, i jus check iprop n update thr.. i rmbr propwall las time got 800psf but i know its agents testing the market. 850-900psf is fair IMHO drool.gif drool.gif

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Omg!

I need to reset my expectation for all my condos dy, in case for sale.
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brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif Ur subang condos easy to rent out right? why sell? jus accumulate notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Mar 9 2015, 11:31 PM)
bro, i jus check iprop n update thr.. i rmbr propwall las time got 800psf but i know its agents testing the market. 850-900psf is fair IMHO  drool.gif  drool.gif
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Bro, u dont feel it is too high? Now prop market is softening so not easy lo to sell at 1Kpsft, 700psft maybe can la! tongue.gif
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1k cannot sell lar. 750-800 more realistic. 1k can get you a very nice condo in a much better location.

At 1k psf it will be Tropicana Gardens 2.0. Need to have competition to "win" 50% discount lol. Excuse to chop price and sell lar.

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1k cannot sell lar. 750-800 more realistic. 1k can get you a very nice condo in a much better location.

At 1k psf it will be Tropicana Gardens 2.0. Need to have competition to "win" 50% discount lol. Excuse to chop price and sell lar.
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HAHA... some early buyers angry tht some ppl can win at half price.. jus imagine how many million they have spent on marketing.. everywhr full of TGardens...

But tgardens much btr location than this.. SD simply act like ktm a big deal.. can buy okr ktm props like dsands for 600psf.
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Latest news for The Suave is they will not launch this month..
Delayed again till May or June..
And the price will be in the range RM900 - RM1000 psqft..
Sales package is not out yet...
Freebies will be kitchen cabinet & sink, hood & hob, diwswasher & dryer, microwave@oven, fridge, water heater and air cond unit..



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QUOTE(tulang_ikan @ Mar 16 2015, 12:56 PM)
Latest news for The Suave is they will not launch this month..
Delayed again till May or June..
And the price will be in the range RM900 - RM1000 psqft..
Sales package is not out yet...
Freebies will be kitchen cabinet & sink, hood & hob, diwswasher & dryer, microwave@oven, fridge, water heater and air cond unit..
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As expected lor, always delaying their launch? hmm.gif I hope they can come up with a better package by delaying the launch? brows.gif

By giving the freebies, the price psft would have dropped by maybe around 30psft?

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QUOTE(tulang_ikan @ Mar 15 2015, 09:56 PM)
Latest news for The Suave is they will not launch this month..
Delayed again till May or June..
And the price will be in the range RM900 - RM1000 psqft..
Sales package is not out yet...
Freebies will be kitchen cabinet & sink, hood & hob, diwswasher & dryer, microwave@oven, fridge, water heater and air cond unit..
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looks like even simedarby is reducing prices.. when it was previewed las time it was gona be 1kpsf right? they btr sel this nt gd plot of SJ land asap... near htc plus far frm d malls.. 850psf will sell well.. location n surrounding is important
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I wonder even with 900 psf people will buy or not...
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Mar 10 2015, 11:23 PM)
HAHA... some early buyers angry tht some ppl can win at half price.. jus imagine how many million they have spent on marketing.. everywhr full of TGardens...

But tgardens much btr location than this.. SD simply act like ktm a big deal.. can buy okr ktm props like dsands for 600psf.
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Bro, got lrt, ktm and brt also lah.

Not to mention walking distance to 2 malls which are relatively successful, 1 hypermarket, upcoming SJCC, connection to kencana square, SJMC and being next to SS15.

Location wise far superior to TGardens
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I'm quite skeptical to see if it can sell at that price.
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Even then the price is sky high. I get that it's a connectivity hub, but it's priced like KL Sentral already. I doubt a bunch of expats will stay here ala KLCC or Kl Sentral. It's still a bloody long ride from KL. Definitely better location than Tropicana Gardens, but still expensive.
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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Mar 17 2015, 06:48 PM)
Bro, got lrt, ktm and brt also lah.

Not to mention walking distance to 2 malls which are relatively successful, 1 hypermarket, upcoming SJCC, connection to kencana square, SJMC and being next to SS15.

Location wise far superior to TGardens
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Look at the htc distance less than 50m..as i mention, 850psf or same price as subsale isola is ok rclxms.gif rclxms.gif .. tgardens also overprice but facility n design is very gd..
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Mar 17 2015, 07:15 PM)
Even then the price is sky high. I get that it's a connectivity hub, but it's priced like KL Sentral already. I doubt a bunch of expats will stay here ala KLCC or Kl Sentral. It's still a bloody long ride from KL. Definitely better location than Tropicana Gardens, but still expensive.
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Very true.. KLCC to here maybe 1 hour.. surrounding more integrated than tgardens with successful mall n hospital icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Mar 18 2015, 09:20 AM)
Look at the htc distance less than 50m..as i mention, 850psf or same price as subsale isola is ok  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif .. tgardens also overprice but facility n design is very gd..
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For suave htc definitely an issue.

I am speaking on the location there in general.

Sure, suave may not be as advantageously positioned as Saujana, or S. Avenue, but the amenities there is top notch as compared to T. Garden's location. Sure T. Garden has better facilities in condo, but T. Garden doesn't have a vibrant commercial centre like SS15 or 3 modes of public transport like the Suave potentially does.
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Mar 18 2015, 09:15 AM)
Even then the price is sky high. I get that it's a connectivity hub, but it's priced like KL Sentral already. I doubt a bunch of expats will stay here ala KLCC or Kl Sentral. It's still a bloody long ride from KL. Definitely better location than Tropicana Gardens, but still expensive.
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depends really. those working at port klang will find it more convenient that living in KL sentral.
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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Mar 18 2015, 09:48 AM)
For suave htc definitely an issue.

I am speaking on the location there in general.

Sure, suave may not be as advantageously positioned as Saujana, or S. Avenue, but the amenities there is top notch as compared to T. Garden's location. Sure T. Garden has better facilities in condo, but T. Garden doesn't have a vibrant commercial centre like SS15 or 3 modes of public transport like the Suave potentially does.
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Well to be sure the HTC is an issue or not, someone should take a meter to the site and check the electromagnetic reading there. If no spike in the readings, that means its not an issue then. If one day something happen to the station or HTC causing a spike in electromagnetic reading, then big issue lorrr.

Its quite a dilemma too, at 1k psf its so expensive to rent out even with all the amenities available. Yet, not so desirable to self stay cause of the potential harm from HTC and the station. Just my 2 cents, perhaps an electrical engineer can explain better on the effects of the HTC and TNB station.
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QUOTE(usherken @ Mar 18 2015, 09:56 AM)
Well to be sure the HTC is an issue or not, someone should take a meter to the site and check the electromagnetic reading there. If no spike in the readings, that means its not an issue then. If one day something happen to the station or HTC causing a spike in electromagnetic reading, then big issue lorrr.

Its quite a dilemma too, at 1k psf its so expensive to rent out even with all the amenities available. Yet, not so desirable to self stay cause of the potential harm from HTC and the station. Just my 2 cents, perhaps an electrical engineer can explain better on the effects of the HTC and TNB station.
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yeah 1K psf for subang is overpriced to me.

But it shows the market is reaaally slowing down when SD climbing down from 1.1K to 1K to 900 psf.

Even at 900psf I think it is overpriced now.... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Mar 17 2015, 08:05 PM)
yeah 1K psf for subang is overpriced to me.

But it shows the market is reaaally slowing down when SD climbing down from 1.1K to 1K to 900 psf.

Even at 900psf I think it is overpriced now.... biggrin.gif
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When it was 1100 did ppl register/call up fr more info? sd has reduced their prices, nows tropicanas turn drool.gif btw, i think htc's perception problem is bigger than the healthy problem. who would wanna stay opposite a big transmission tower/pmu building.
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Mar 18 2015, 10:12 AM)
When it was 1100 did ppl register/call up fr more info? sd has reduced their prices, nows tropicanas turn  drool.gif btw, i think htc's perception problem is bigger than the healthy problem. who would wanna stay opposite a big transmission tower/pmu building.
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tropicana got lower down their price from 1.2K psf on their new block?
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tropicana got lower down their price from 1.2K psf on their new block?
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Nope.. im jus saying fr the future la. suave at 900 sales will be btr than tg at 1100..
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Nope.. im jus saying fr the future la. suave at 900 sales will be btr than tg at 1100..
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So you interested bro if 900psf biggrin.gif
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What's the logic for SDP to price Suave higher than Cantara ie SJ address v PJ address? I tot props in the latter are always more expensive?

SA told me SDP will buld a mall in SJCC that is connected to the KTM and LRT stations - I guess this is the plus point that made SDP price it higher? hmm.gif There will be several service apmt in SJCC and due to the prop slowdown lets hope SDP will give more rebates and freebies when the launch Suave! smile.gif
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What's the logic for SDP to price Suave higher than Cantara ie SJ address v PJ address? I tot props in the latter are always more expensive?

SA told me SDP will buld a mall in SJCC that is connected to the KTM and LRT stations - I guess this is the plus point that made SDP price it higher? hmm.gif  There will be several service apmt in SJCC and due to the prop slowdown lets hope SDP will give more rebates and freebies when the launch Suave! smile.gif
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SJ is in a far btr location than cantara.. this one gt so many things beside n cantara side only lrt n high dense apartments beside.. this suave area demand quite strong frm students n expats alike.. Ara too many condos fr nw..
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Mar 20 2015, 12:54 PM)
SJ is in a far btr location than cantara.. this one gt so many things beside n cantara side only lrt n high dense apartments beside.. this suave area demand quite strong frm students n expats alike.. Ara too many condos fr nw..
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Bro, in SJCC there will be about 3-4 condo projects & Suave is only 1 of them, furthermore this Suave is a distance away from the LRT & KTM stations & I dont think there is any direct link bridge between them so I think it's not justifiable for SD to price it at 1K psft, maybe 700-800psft still OK la!

For me, I would wait for their SJ7 projects & the PH TOD project as the prices should be lower than SJCC's price.
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QUOTE(BRE @ Mar 27 2015, 01:43 PM)
Bro, in SJCC there will be about 3-4 condo projects & Suave is only 1 of them, furthermore this Suave is a distance away from the LRT & KTM stations & I dont think there is any direct link bridge between them so I think it's not justifiable for SD to price it at 1K psft, maybe 700-800psft still OK la!

For me, I would wait for their SJ7 projects & the PH TOD project as the prices should be lower than SJCC's price.
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Lower than sjcc price?? At wat price u expected??
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Lower than sjcc price?? At wat price u expected??
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Dono la bro, I think probably 700-800psft? I expect it to be higher than PR

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Will be lower lar, SJCC location better lar confirm. 7-800 should be ok for Sj7 and PH projects.

Sj is an educational, commercial, medical and transport hub. USJ almost there but not quite as big as happening as SJ yet. Once Damen, Empire Remix, Lrt, Brt complete, USJ might be as happening as Sj already. PH still long way to go until happening status.

My opinion SJ is like Bandar Utama, got everything, regional hub. USJ is like Kota Damansara, once quiet but turning very hot and gonna be next regional hub. PH is like Sungai Buloh, got good potential but still very long way from being happening, also super damn far from KL.

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QUOTE(BRE @ Mar 26 2015, 11:43 PM)
Bro, in SJCC there will be about 3-4 condo projects & Suave is only 1 of them, furthermore this Suave is a distance away from the LRT & KTM stations & I dont think there is any direct link bridge between them so I think it's not justifiable for SD to price it at 1K psft, maybe 700-800psft still OK la!

For me, I would wait for their SJ7 projects & the PH TOD project as the prices should be lower than SJCC's price.
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Bro, im quite sure Sime darby will connect suave to the LRT/KTM station by the SJCC mall.. if suave is located in btw empire n lrt, it would sell out even at 1kpsf.. brows.gif but too bad, near htc, far frm ktm/lrt n EVEN further frm empire/subang parade laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Mar 27 2015, 08:45 PM)
Bro, im quite sure Sime darby will connect suave to the LRT/KTM station by the SJCC mall.. if suave is located in btw empire n lrt, it would sell out even at 1kpsf..  brows.gif but too bad, near htc, far frm ktm/lrt n EVEN further frm empire/subang parade  laugh.gif
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Can la, if SD follow MCT by connecting the condo to LRT station! biggrin.gif but so far SA didnt mention on this??? hmm.gif

If Suave is already priced at 1K psft, just imagine how much the other condos in SJCC which is linked or nearer to the KTM/LRT stations will be! blink.gif
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Can la, if SD follow MCT by connecting the condo to LRT station! biggrin.gif but so far SA didnt mention on this??? hmm.gif

If Suave is already priced at 1K psft, just imagine how much the other condos in SJCC which is linked or nearer to the KTM/LRT stations will be! blink.gif
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Yes thts why they shld reduce suaves price also la... 850psf here n 900-950psf in d better located condos..
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Yes thts why they shld reduce suaves price also la... 850psf here n 900-950psf in d better located condos..
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That is why they are holding back the sales, because of GST and prop slow down, so how to sell at 1Kpsft? I heard they will launch Cantara first, not Suave.
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Yes thts why they shld reduce suaves price also la... 850psf here n 900-950psf in d better located condos..
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700 psf better, or better yet, 600 psf.... brows.gif
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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Mar 30 2015, 03:45 PM)
700 psf better, or better yet, 600 psf.... brows.gif
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600psft cannot lo bro, PR already sold at 600+psft so how to sell SJCC at same price? Must sell higher lo! rolleyes.gif
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600psft cannot lo bro, PR already sold at 600+psft so how to sell SJCC at same price? Must sell higher lo! rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(tat3179 @ Mar 30 2015, 06:17 PM)
Anything can happen...bubble burst SD gets despo...then can pau cheap cheap.... rclxm9.gif
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Bro, SD has very strong holding powers la, just look at their unsold props-TG's units have been unsold for more than 3 years but they didnt reduce the price at all, they just subsidized 50% of the maintenance fee for 3 years and doubled the Prime card discount during this Lifestyle Collection campaign. They are not desperate to sell at all, the Sales Mgr may propose some promo to push sales but dont expect them to drop their prices lo!
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Haha no way drop that much lar. 8-900 psf should be fair price for this area.
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QUOTE(BRE @ Mar 30 2015, 12:14 AM)
That is why they are holding back the sales, because of GST and prop slow down, so how to sell at 1Kpsft? I heard they will launch Cantara first, not Suave.
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Ur cantara post now in ptlm.. u gona be famous icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif Actually cantara is on d same road tht leads to d idaman n legenda..tht area feels very very high class.. LRT 3 passing thru the area next to d NKVE.. mus check d distance
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Mar 30 2015, 06:53 PM)
Ur cantara post now in ptlm.. u gona be famous icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif Actually cantara is on d same road tht leads to d idaman n legenda..tht area feels very very high class.. LRT 3 passing thru the area next to d NKVE.. mus check d distance
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what happen to this project?
wait till next also longer than giraffe liao.
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what happen to this project?
wait till next also longer than giraffe liao.
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biggrin.gif SDP still scratching their head & thinking hard on when to launch! biggrin.gif

Looking at their website it seems that they will launch Cantara first, not Suave.
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Dear all,

I have a Casa Tiara studio unit (next to upcoming Suave) for sale for only RM365k - limited time offer.

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Expected launching in July 2016 ... be prepared for RM1Kpsf

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launching very soon ....
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who is buying?
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1k psf, totally not do able
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Better buy cantara instead?
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200K perunit shd be affoldable price bruce.gif bruce.gif
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Wat is d key selling point?
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Wat is d key selling point?
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Near lrt stn n komuter stn n subang parade n empire. A proposed mall nearby

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And maybe an access pedestrian bridge from the integrated Subang Jaya train station to the new development on the opposite side of the Fed.H'way.
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And maybe an access pedestrian bridge from the integrated Subang Jaya train station to the new development on the opposite side of the Fed.H'way.
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That is the proposed plan by uoa for kencana square, maybe can rent suave to ppl working there?
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That is the proposed plan by uoa for kencana square,  maybe can rent suave to ppl working there?
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Y say so? Because if high psft? still gt la maybe gt to hold longer n Nt much profit
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Y say so? Because if high psft? still gt la maybe gt to hold longer n Nt much profit
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rather buy opposite DSL house. no need pay maintenance and cheaper.
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If security is selling point. You are right to go.
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hello guys is this property still on?? why no news geh?
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Site already clear and fencing is up already... I think launching soon.. Anyone got the psf and launching date???
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Last time hearsay rm1100 psft n when ppl complain n say crazy they postpone liao. No news on launching mayb nxt yr if d prop market start to recover
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QUOTE(BRE @ Apr 27 2017, 02:22 PM)
Last time hearsay rm1100 psft n when ppl complain n say crazy they postpone liao. No news on launching mayb nxt yr if d prop market start to recover
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cantana already hitting 8++psf rite?

I doubt that this will be cheaper.....given its SD.
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cantana already hitting 8++psf rite?

I doubt that this will be cheaper.....given its SD.
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Yes but pj prop shud b priced higher than sj prop ma! I told their sa its crazy n suicidal to launch suave at 1100psft in this market! Can c d layout plan in their sales gallery in consplant opposite empire

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this is more to TOD oriented props so premium is there. n since there is some mall nearby, expect SD to launch at 900-1000psqf with mainly small units
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RM 600 k onwards for 620 sf.... psf is more than 950 ++.. is that the reasonable psf in ss16???
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RM 600 k onwards for 620 sf.... psf is more than 950 ++.. is that the reasonable psf in ss16???
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Very high lo thts y sdp kiv d launching
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i just did the search in iproperty... Isola already selling rm 900 +++ psf for subsale, so suave rm 950 +++ psf maybe consider reasonable price gua......
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i just did the search in iproperty... Isola already selling rm 900 +++ psf for subsale, so suave rm 950 +++ psf maybe consider reasonable price gua......
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actual transactions or asking price?

best to check w brickz for actual transacted price instead of sellers' wishful prices.
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ May 4 2017, 12:41 PM)
i just did the search in iproperty... Isola already selling rm 900 +++ psf for subsale, so suave rm 950 +++ psf maybe consider reasonable price gua......
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Sa told me its 1100psft so if drop 2 900psft mayb sellable. Cant b too greedy if priced 2 high cant sell oso sangkut
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I went to cosplant sales gallery. Closed on sat and sun.. TMD... but the glass door mention open everyday from 10 AM to 6:30 PM.... Wanna to see is there any good package and wanna to confirmed whether 950 psf is correct or not, i hope the price not firmed and reduce the price... i hope la, thats why i go there to find out...
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Sales office supposed 2 open daily, if closed then can try d one in subang parade. Mayb sa all gone 2 cantara show unit.
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Sales office supposed 2 open daily, if closed then can try d one in subang parade. Mayb sa all gone 2 cantara show unit.
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Staff in subang parade know nothing... oh ya. maybe all went to cantara show unit last week....
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ May 22 2017, 01:32 PM)
Staff in subang parade know nothing... oh ya. maybe all went to cantara show unit last week....
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Nt reallt n it depends on which staff was on duty
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Last time hearsay rm1100 psft n when ppl complain n say crazy they postpone liao. No news on launching mayb nxt yr if d prop market start to recover
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RM1,100 per sqft? That is very much on the high side.
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QUOTE(Win Win Inspiration @ May 22 2017, 02:17 PM)
RM1,100 per sqft? That is very much on the high side.
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Tod n near empire n subang parade ma lets c wthr sdp will reduce it
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Tod n near empire n subang parade ma lets c wthr sdp will reduce it
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rclxms.gif sime darby price always on premium side.

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rclxms.gif sime darby price always on premium side.
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Ya lo they claimed 2 b premium developer ma!
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rclxms.gif sime darby price always on premium side.
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But toooo premium on this project... hehehe...
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Jun 6 2017, 07:25 PM)
But toooo premium on this project... hehehe...
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psft is 952 psft reduced frm 1100psft nt as premium as jendela at 1350psft

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I did ask...SA said minimum Rm1000. But they only have studios and 1 room only.
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I did ask...SA said minimum Rm1000. But they only have studios and 1 room only.
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Ya lo they claimed 2 b premium developer ma!
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Infact they are one of the premium developer in klang valley like eco,shc,uem, tropicana and etc.
Premium price can attract more HIGH KERAS ppl staying there, hence boost the self actualizationi.


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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Apr 27 2017, 03:56 PM)
cantana already hitting 8++psf rite?

I doubt that this will be cheaper.....given its SD.
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the "SUAVE"?? omg, they really running out of names to use.
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Infact they are one of the premium developer in klang valley like eco,shc,uem, tropicana and etc.
Premium price can attract more HIGH KERAS ppl staying there, hence boost the self actualizationi.
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Ya body oso keras ( bean kor's fav word) la looking at d psft but tht little thng keras at d right time n place its ok la! Lol
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yes. my unit after discount is about 850psf. sweat.gif
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850psft cheap lo bro compared 2 lot 15 aka suave's 952psft! 1st time c sj prop more expensive than pj prop
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850psft cheap lo bro compared 2 lot 15 aka suave's 952psft! 1st time c sj prop more expensive than pj prop
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go sunway area, there are many condo there more expensive than PJ

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QUOTE(BRE @ Jun 7 2017, 10:03 AM)
Ya body oso keras ( bean kor's fav word) la looking at d psft but tht little thng keras at d right time n place its ok la! Lol
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so BRE bro...

would you rather pay 1300psf in Parq without starbucks or

925psf in Suave where starbucks and CBTL are everywhere here????? upmarket and trendy....your words.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 7 2017, 11:20 AM)
so BRE bro...

would you rather pay 1300psf in Parq without starbucks or

925psf in Suave where starbucks and CBTL are everywhere here????? upmarket and trendy....your words.
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Suave dono yet la wthr got sb or cbtl n its nt confirmed tht parq tadak sb so how 2 answer yr question bean kor???

Sjcc nt 2 bad as its a tod wth 3 malls nearby

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go sunway area, there are many condo there more expensive than PJ
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Sunway under pj ma bro! But certain pjs area under sj so quite confusing
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Layout has changed??? I recalled got 2 bedders and 3 bedders layout before... or first phase is studio only?
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When launching and who has the layout??? The SD gallery always close at cosplant. Don't know they setup the gallery there for what, always close...
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When launching and who has the layout??? The SD gallery always close at cosplant. Don't know they setup the gallery there for what, always close...
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D last few times i passed by it was opened, mayb u no luck bro y nt u try go there again or ask d sa.
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D last few times i passed by it was opened, mayb u no luck bro y nt u try go there again or ask d sa.
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maybe i really bad luck gua.. every time i went there, closed. already dulan jor...
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maybe i really bad luck gua.. every time i went there, closed. already dulan jor...
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Bro call sdp la n find out wthr d ofis is open
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Sime Darby Property launches Lot 15 serviced apartment in SJCC
By LUM KA KAY | EDGEPROP.MY Thu, 16 Nov 2017
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SUBANG JAYA (Nov 16): Sime Darby Property Bhd has launched its highly-anticipated Lot 15 serviced apartment within its RM4 billion Subang Jaya City Centre (SJCC).

Lot 15 will open for sale this weekend (Nov 18 and 19), targeting first-time homebuyers and young professionals.

With a GDV of RM269.2 million, the 2.22-acre, freehold Lot 15 comprises two 20-storey serviced apartment blocks with a total of 361 homes and three levels of retail units.

Tower A will comprise 188 units while Tower B will have 173 units.

The built-ups of the serviced apartments range from 624 sq ft to 1,001 sq ft, while prices will range from RM593,888 to RM1 million.

Noting that the property market is challenging, Sime Darby Property chief operating and transformation officer Datuk Wan Hashimi Albakri still expects at least a 40% take-up rate for Lot 15 by June 2018.

“The time has come for us to deliver a fresh, new edge to Subang Jaya through Lot 15, a high-rise development within the planned urban centre of SJCC that will generate the mature township of Subang Jaya.

“The development concept for Lot 15 caters to urbanites looking for an interconnected development where commuting is seamless,” he said in his speech during the launch today.

Wan Hashimi added that after more than 40 years, Subang Jaya continues to be a vibrant township and model sustainable community.

“It is a benchmark for other township developments in the country and a testimony of our expertise in developing sustainable townships and communities,” he added.

Facilities of Lot 15 include a floating pavilion, swimming pool, Jacuzzi, children’s pool, multipurpose hall and deck, gymnasium, sauna room, BBQ area, playground, sky gardens and rooftop edible herb gardens.

The development is a “transit adjacent development”, an interconnected development with facilities and amenities within close reach.

It is a 500m walk away from Subang Jaya LRT station and is accessible via the Federal Highway, New Pantai Expressway, Damansara-Puchong Highway, New Klang Valley Expressway and Shah Alam Expressway.

Sime Darby Property is also offering free legal fees on Sales and Purchase Agreements (SPA) and disbursement, free loan legal fees and disbursement as well as free maintenance fees for 12 months.

A special additional discount of up to 3% is also available for Sime Darby Property PRIME members.

PRIME is a loyalty and reward programme offered to Sime Darby Property homebuyers.

Construction for Lot 15 will commence in February 2018 and is slated for completion in 42 months.
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overpriced for an inferior piece of land.
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Based on SDP's FB live video the response like not bad wor. Got makan2 somemore.
Many subang's rich auntie uncle there to support market.
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whats so interesting with this location that one have to sell at KL CBD pricing? lol... although its low density.... but thats one luxurious pricing here....
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QUOTE(asiabrickfields @ Nov 18 2017, 11:14 AM)
Based on SDP's FB live video the response like not bad wor. Got makan2 somemore.
Many subang's rich auntie uncle there to support market.
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subang proper hardly got any new launches.....

same with key addresses of PJ........

banyak cash rich FAMA buying for their handicapped children as insurance........
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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Nov 18 2017, 12:17 PM)
whats so interesting with this location that one have to sell at KL CBD pricing? lol... although its low density.... but thats one luxurious pricing here....
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tod ma wth lrt n komuter sumore sp, ab n empire nearby, enuf potential 4 sdp 2 rebrand this area as sjcc. Price psft drop d la as expected frm suave days of 1100+psft. First coach ofis oso nearby good 4 buyers working sg n planning 2 stay in lot 15. lets c d response😊😀

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whats so interesting with this location that one have to sell at KL CBD pricing? lol... although its low density.... but thats one luxurious pricing here....
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subang got height restriction.

limited edition mah.......proper subang address......TOD....Malls........colleges.....semua ada.....and connectivity also.

not really KUL CBD pricing lah bruder........when you last check KL CBD prices new launch vs new launch......unless you tok abt titiwangsa and Sentul,

its certainly more expensive than MK. devil.gif

this sjcc....will be another Bangsar south like jor..........but the opposite UOA project......still berri quiet......

and there will also be another Bangsar South development btw Metropark and FedHwy........
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where is the exact location of this sales gallery . I heard hot official launch today.
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where is the exact location of this sales gallery . I heard hot official launch today.
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Tower B type A & B snapped up pretty fast ....
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Tower B type A & B snapped up pretty fast ....
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Tower B type A & B snapped up pretty fast ....
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Owners of Subang Avenue, eTiara and Casa Tiara bertambah kaya.
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In future more high rise launches in sjcc wth better locations but psft oso higher.
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tak same keras......
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Actually I will consider getting a large unit in Goodyear Court 8, 9 or 10.

With this launch, I expect the SJ7 project, also a TOD will likely to hit around Rm900 psf. It's location is even better with the LRT station next to it and close to Summit and DaMen. More up market shopping mall can visit Sunway Piramid.

The Goodyear Courts mentioned, currently going for around Rm450psf (last check around 6 months ago) has potential to go further up.

Just my 0.02 cents.
Of course the GY court have their downside being old and some units may be rented out to foreigners but the upwards potential can be considered.


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QUOTE(Longshot @ Nov 18 2017, 06:05 PM)
Actually I will consider getting a large unit in Goodyear Court 8, 9 or 10.

With this launch, I expect the SJ7 project, also a TOD will likely to hit around Rm900 psf. It's location is even better with the LRT station next to it and close to Summit and DaMen. More up market shopping mall can visit Sunway Piramid.

The Goodyear Courts mentioned, currently going for around Rm450psf (last check around 6 months ago) has potential to go further up.

Just my 0.02 cents.
Of course the GY court have their downside being old and some units may be rented out to foreigners but the upwards potential can be considered.
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goodyear court left with 7xyrs lease nia......I doubt its appreciation will go up much more.....

The ex sime warehouse SJ7 project.......will be jam going back and going out, as compared to lot15.
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Got stalls serving coffee (Coffee Bean, if I'm not mistaken), SS15 cendol, SS15 rojak only. The Burger Shop stall not open when I was there. The server will ask for coupons before serving you the food.

Dei, at that price for the property at least serve roast lamb and smoked salmon lah. Apa ini rojak and cendol?

I didn't eat or drink anything - fried, sugary and carb heavy stuff does not appeal to me.

But the gallery has a sizable crowd -lots of unker aunties, some with their teen kids. No doubt the unkers buying to pass them to the kids. Daddykasi rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(asiabrickfields @ Nov 18 2017, 11:14 AM)
Based on SDP's FB live video the response like not bad wor. Got makan2 somemore.
Many subang's rich auntie uncle there to support market.
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900psf?! Many buyers at launch event?! In this market?!

Someone tag that icemanfx guy/gal...
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900psf?! Many buyers at launch event?! In this market?!

Someone tag that icemanfx guy/gal...
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Oh yeah 10% of the projects now which is high profile, high class, high end developer will get the sales
but the rest struggling very much
even razak city with all types of trains station still cannot achieve 50% of sales
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Oh yeah 10% of the projects now which is high profile, high class, high end developer will get the sales
but the rest struggling very much
even razak city with all types of trains station still cannot achieve 50% of sales
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This Lot 15 is the first phase of SJCC. There would be developments along the whole stretch behind Subang Parade.
But the rich uncles and aunties in SJ, no problem in buying.

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QUOTE(Veda @ Nov 18 2017, 11:42 PM)
Got stalls serving coffee (Coffee Bean, if I'm not mistaken), SS15 cendol, SS15 rojak only. The Burger Shop stall not open when I was there. The server will ask for coupons before serving you the food.

Dei, at that price for the property at least serve roast lamb and smoked salmon lah. Apa ini rojak and cendol?

I didn't eat or drink anything - fried, sugary and carb heavy stuff does not appeal to me.

But the gallery has a sizable crowd -lots of unker aunties, some with their teen kids. No doubt the unkers buying to pass them to the kids. Daddykasi  rolleyes.gif
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Cut cost ma slow prop market😆😊sumore 1st launch in sjcc dont splash out so much cash 1st lo
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Cut cost ma slow prop market😆😊sumore 1st launch in sjcc dont splash out so much cash 1st lo
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sime is not known for his lavish sale party de.....

and the rebate factor is negligible......saved maybe for its THE GLADE development.

There is no much info on SJCC master plan also......
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sime is not known for his lavish sale party de.....

and the rebate factor is negligible......saved maybe for its THE GLADE development.

There is no much info on SJCC master plan also......
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Normal local food lo but 4 exp prop like alya etc i nt sure.

Their rebate higher d last even lesser 2.5% when others giving up 2 10-15%

Sjcc has several plots of land so ths lot 15 is at d least desirable location n oso cheapest. Last time hearsay sdp planned a small mall oso

My guess is after today mayb ard 30% booked, 361 quite low d number of units compared 2 888 cantara

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Normal local food lo but 4 exp prop like alya etc i nt sure.

Their rebate higher d last even lesser 2.5% when others giving up 2 10-15%

Sjcc has several plots of land so ths lot 15 is at d least desirable location n oso cheapest. Last time hearsay sdp planned a small mall oso

My guess is after today mayb ard 30% booked, 361 quite low d number of units compared 2 888 cantara
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am not sure if sandwiched btw train line and fedhwy is a good way to live............

oh not forgetting HTC.......

for SJCC I mean.

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 19 2017, 11:43 AM)
am not sure if sandwiched btw train line and fedhwy is a good way to live............

oh not forgetting HTC.......

for SJCC I mean.
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Where got kena sandwiched? Both fh n ktm line r 2 d north of lot 15 if im nt wrong but its d nearest 2 d htc n huge tnb stn thts y d least desirable location among all sjcc prop

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 18 2017, 10:33 PM)
goodyear court left with 7xyrs lease nia......I doubt its appreciation will go up much more.....

The ex sime warehouse SJ7 project.......will be jam going back and going out, as compared to lot15.
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There r freehold ones.
Just have to look.

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There r freehold ones.
Just have to look.
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my friend bought court 7....and it was leasehold.
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I tot in usj only usj1 n restree condo r lh d others fh
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Is the price for the property reasonable? Thinking of getting one. But also thinking should wait for the next 1 or 2 Years when the property market is much more slower. From I read in papers and online.
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I tot in usj only usj1 n restree condo r lh d others fh
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Part of usj1 already converted feom lishold to fh.

I checked subsale ad....for phase 8....one ad put tenure "blank'.
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Is the price for the property reasonable? Thinking of getting one. But also thinking should wait for the next 1 or 2 Years when the property market is much more slower. From I read in papers and online.
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If u wanna buy iskandar....better wait.

Tis is kv matured areas......lain cerita. Summore if gov put a freeze on mixed development.....you think the price will go up or down?
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Devloper allrdy concentratimg on sub Rm500k condos, prices for Rm600k to Rm800l no way will go up, especially those bought undercon...market is being flooded with AK Rm500k pojeks and Rm300k affordable homes...there is no market for higher than Rm700k condos now, unless dor own stay? And expert imbestors allrdy abandon tis prive range, except those newbies

Fine example are Msuit Mxity Ampang Kaper Funnel all those Dpasir Residenxes all MV down down down

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How was the take-up rate during launch?
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Devloper allrdy concentratimg on sub Rm500k condos, prices for Rm600k to Rm800l no way will go up, especially those bought undercon...market is being flooded with AK arm500m pojeks and Rm300k affordable homes...there is no market for higher than Rm700k condos now, unless dor own stay? And expert imbestors allrdy abandon tis prive range, except those newbies
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But there is no affordable home project in Subang meh. Or maybe Im wrong ?
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QUOTE(brother love @ Nov 20 2017, 10:20 AM)
Devloper allrdy concentratimg on sub Rm500k condos, prices for Rm600k to Rm800l no way will go up, especially those bought undercon...market is being flooded with AK arm500m pojeks and Rm300k affordable homes...there is no market for higher than Rm700k condos now, unless dor own stay? And expert imbestors allrdy abandon tis prive range, except those newbies
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sorry pick your brain a bit.....

if developers are super busy flooding the market with rumawip rumahselangor Prima (all under 500k I presumed) and other developers (AK Skywanni MKH UOA AKisami, MS and etc) are flooding the market with below 700k, why you think property above 700k will suffer?

pls note that those absolute low price entry properties are selling pretty well, therefore little overhang units are showing in statistics but the same cant be said about upon vp......thousand units will be flooding the market then. Will gov come out with another statistics to claim that too many foreclosures?

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my friends went on saturday to see the launch and maybe book if interested. apparently it was fully booked within 2 hours of launching
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my friends went on saturday to see the launch and maybe book if interested. apparently it was fully booked within 2 hours of launching
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earlier someone reported abt 40% booked.

now you said its fully booked within 2 hrs????

mystery launch this one..... devil.gif
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If u wanna buy iskandar....better wait.

Tis is kv matured areas......lain cerita. Summore if gov put a freeze on mixed development.....you think the price will go up or down?
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Iskandar? Sorry which development is this?

I’m still new. Sorry what’s kv? Prices never go down. So where are u going with this? If they do put a freeze on this kind of properties. The prices will go up? That’s what you’re saying?
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From what I see is 85% is already taken up. The pic is from Sunday at around 6pm


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Iskandar? Sorry which development is this?

I’m still new. Sorry what’s  kv? Prices never go down. So where are u going with this? If they do put a freeze on this kind of properties. The prices will go up? That’s what you’re saying?
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Iskandar region JB

KV klang Valley (dun confused with greater klang valley)

they only frozen properties with 1mio and above price tag. so far only DBKL and perhaps JB kena........I don't know if the freeze is nationwide..

lets just say gov will stop property at this price range for the next 5 yrs. Do you think the price will go up or down? Economics 101.


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Iskandar region JB

KV klang Valley (dun confused with greater klang valley)

they only frozen properties with 1mio and above price tag. so far only DBKL and perhaps JB kena........I don't know if the freeze is nationwide..

lets just say gov will stop property at this price range for the next 5 yrs. Do you think the price will go up or down? Economics 101.
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Ohh ok. Thanks for the info. Didn’t know that.

So that means less supply of properties. Prices will go up? No more new developments. I didn’t take economics last time. Haha. 😅
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67% booked as at today😊 only opened abt 207 units 4 sale

Manyak strong bbb mood☺

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the blacked rows.....

are they bumi quote or just blocked floors?
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From what I see is 85% is already taken up. The pic is from Sunday at around 6pm
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what's the discounts? apart from prime.

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2nd phase.

So I should wait? Economics 101? 😁
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below 900psf is not bad. no furnishing? duno how to get kl cbd new launch residential at this pricing as aaron quoted. best to refer to subsales transaction in the few condos nearby.

Is the name really lot15????
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 21 2017, 08:09 AM)
below 900psf is not bad. no furnishing? duno how to get kl cbd new launch residential at this pricing as aaron quoted. best to refer to subsales transaction in the few condos nearby.

Is the name really lot15????
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10k voucher 4 kitchen. Name cfm bcos mpsj didnt approve ang moh name suave, hearsay ppl pronounce it as suey so bo sui lo😅😆

Tower b facing south more popular bcos facing north will b d htc n tnb stn. E-tiara n mesiniaga also very near 2 d left n right.

So near htc but ppl still sapu as they have been waiting 4 sjcc launch 4 a long time. Sdp's waiting game has paid off n ppl dont care so much on d -ve factors😊

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QUOTE(BRE @ Nov 21 2017, 08:43 AM)
10k voucher 4 kitchen. Name cfm bcos mpsj didnt approve ang moh name suave, hearsay ppl pronounce it as suey so bo sui lo😅😆

Tower b facing south more popular bcos facing north will b d htc n tnb stn. E-tiara n mesiniaga also very near 2 d left n right.

So near htc but ppl still sapu as they have been waiting 4 sjcc launch 4 a long time. Sdp's waiting game has paid off n ppl dont care so much on d -ve factors😊
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really dropped glasses.

harve BJ near HTC, kena ppl hantam left right and centre.

and this one close to 1000psf....yet ppl all rush to sapu htc view..........

even USjH also close to HTC but they still sell like hotcake.

whereas in Eco Forest thread, ppl withdrew their booking bcos there is land allocated for HTC.

Perhaps EW needs to learn a thing or two about SIME.
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QUOTE(BRE @ Nov 21 2017, 08:43 AM)
10k voucher 4 kitchen. Name cfm bcos mpsj didnt approve ang moh name suave, hearsay ppl pronounce it as suey so bo sui lo😅😆

Tower b facing south more popular bcos facing north will b d htc n tnb stn. E-tiara n mesiniaga also very near 2 d left n right.

So near htc but ppl still sapu as they have been waiting 4 sjcc launch 4 a long time. Sdp's waiting game has paid off n ppl dont care so much on d -ve factors😊
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well... maybe we have to wait for another 6 months period and see how many really converted to sales... AK also claimed their projects fully booked on that launching day... in the end... still gt maybe 30-40% still selling... haha....
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 21 2017, 07:09 AM)
below 900psf is not bad. no furnishing? duno how to get kl cbd new launch residential at this pricing as aaron quoted. best to refer to subsales transaction in the few condos nearby.

Is the name really lot15????
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erm... third nvenue, three28 and m101 i think still can get below 1k psf pricing....? depending on which type of unit looking at... other than isola subang and one soho, i didnt see any subsales transaction around ss16 or jalan kemajuan subang area running at rm800psf and above...
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Ya i thnk many buy 4 kiddoes, some mayb like sj a lot having stayed long here, some downgrade frm landed prop 4 d facilities n security etc. This stretch of land is d hottest in sj bcos of tod n malls
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well... maybe we have to wait for another 6 months period and see how many really converted to sales... AK also claimed their projects fully booked on that launching day... in the end... still gt maybe 30-40% still selling... haha....
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there is no way a highrise project can be fully booked..........

there is always bumi quote that cant fulfilled.
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erm... third nvenue, three28 and m101 i think still can get below 1k psf pricing....? depending on which type of unit looking at... other than isola subang and one soho, i didnt see any subsales transaction around ss16 or jalan kemajuan subang area running at rm800psf and above...
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Sdp setting new benchmark lo 4 prop here, they keep d units small 2 bring down d absolute prices
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 21 2017, 12:12 PM)
really dropped glasses.

harve BJ near HTC, kena ppl hantam left right and centre.

and this one close to 1000psf....yet ppl all rush to sapu htc view..........

even USjH also close to HTC but they still sell like hotcake.

whereas in Eco Forest thread, ppl withdrew their booking bcos there is land allocated for HTC.

Perhaps EW needs to learn a thing or two about SIME.
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Ef no tod n malls ma its more 4 own stay so if near htc sure many wont buy. Ppl sapu 4 d location n rental value so mayb htc doesnt concern them so much

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Sdp setting new benchmark lo 4 prop here, they keep d units small 2 bring down d absolute prices
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well this part is quite a reflective of SDB past profiles... almost all their property launching also setting a benchmark pricing for that particular area.... its low density... hence i think there will be enuf fansi to take up the units... haha
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 21 2017, 11:41 AM)
there is no way a highrise project can be fully booked..........

there is always bumi quote that cant fulfilled.
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kinda true that so far i didn't see any new high-rise project have zero developer unit for sales upon completion... its even worse now that those affordable projects are mainly high density....
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Ya i thnk many buy 4 kiddoes, some mayb like sj a lot having stayed long here, some downgrade frm landed prop 4 d facilities n security etc. This stretch of land is d hottest in sj bcos of tod n malls
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SJ quite self contained. not to mention colleges and schools are all nearby. Hospital also. Hotel pun ada. got overflow guests, get them to stay in nearby hotel also easy.

beside Empire subang parade and AEON, sunway is just few minutes drive away. AND ITS FH.

mana nak cari? apa lagi lu mau?

BUT I will buy ISoLA if die die must buy TOD project compared to this LOT15.

I do agree....SUAVE is a mouth full.

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 21 2017, 11:47 AM)
SJ quite self contained. not to mention colleges and schools are all nearby. Hospital also. Hotel pun ada. got overflow guests, get them to stay in nearby hotel also easy.

beside Empire subang parade and AEON, sunway is just few minutes drive away. AND ITS FH.

mana nak cari? apa lagi lu mau?

BUT I will buy ISoLA if die die must buy TOD project compared to this LOT15.

I do agree....SUAVE is a mouth full.
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why isola better? because can see completed unit? haha
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why isola better? because can see completed unit? haha
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Nxt 2 empire d most upmarket mall in this area😆
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why isola better? because can see completed unit? haha
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almost same price

better location.

but I haven't been to inside isola......only tok kok nia.

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Isola last time sold i thnk abt 600+psft now new benchmark 900+psft. Future sjcc launch 1000psft? 😨mau compete wth parque😅

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Isola is a quiet upmarket gem. Many tenants are Japs, mat sallehs and koreans. Occupancy is about 50% with total 240+ units.
No, I am not a agent. smile.gif
BTW, rentals ain't too bad either. You can get RM3k to 4k for a 2 room unit.

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Wow expats staying in isola? Being located nxt 2 empire must b d main contributing factor no wonder sometimes can c some cun japs n koreans in empire😆😁

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Isola is a quiet upmarket gem. Many tenants are Japs, mat sallehs and koreans. Occupancy is about 50% with total 240+ units.
No, I am not a agent. smile.gif
BTW, rentals ain't too bad either. You can get RM3k to 4k for a 2 room unit.
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isola two bedder is 10x0sq......

at 900k or thereabout.....renting 3k is definitely losing money.
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Sdp price 600+k nia so good roi if rent 3k n bot at this price
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650 psf la when launched.

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Oh yeah 10% of the projects now which is high profile, high class, high end developer will get the sales
but the rest struggling very much
even razak city with all types of trains station still cannot achieve 50% of sales
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agree with this.
market is absolutely flooded with 500k and below 'affordable high density 2-5k units' projects from those developers with barely any track record.

looking at the 800-1.1m + low density range, good developer. not surprised this take-up is decent.
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agree with this.
market is absolutely flooded with 500k and below 'affordable high density 2-5k units' projects from those developers with barely any track record.

looking at the 800-1.1m + low density range, good developer. not surprised this take-up is decent.
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Surprise, surprise, surprise...

The rich never stop surprise me, and why the gov continue to help them is a bigger surprise smile.gif

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Nxt launch in sjcc 1000psft😆😃
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Surprise, surprise, surprise...

The rich never stop surprise me, and why the gov continue to help them is a bigger surprise smile.gif
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The rich mix, golf, biz, party among themselves. That's why rich always become richer, poor get sidelined.
Been like that in any country.
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Nxt launch in sjcc 1000psft😆😃
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I heard the few reserved floors would be launched early next year.
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I heard the few reserved floors would be launched early next year.
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never know that the trend now is live near HTC
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never know that the trend now is live near HTC
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Denai Alam and USJ Heights both by SD very near HTC yet fully sold.
And USJ Heights is not cheap...any superlink subsale there cost easily RM1.4m to RM1.6m

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Usjh nt only near htc its near 2 highway oso. Its fng oso very rare in usj n d last piece of land in usj n wth ltd supply of dsl ppl sapu even tho near htc n hways
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Usjh nt only near htc its near 2 highway oso. Its fng oso very rare in usj n d last piece of land in usj n wth ltd supply of dsl ppl sapu even tho near htc n hways
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Those who bought huat. I know a guy who bought at 890k sold it for 1.6m last year. Another bought corner lot for 1.4m has offer for 2.6m yet he does not want to sell. And I heard some of them queue overnight to get the units.

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Those who bought huat. I know a guy who bought at 890k sold it for 1.6m last year. Another bought corner lot for 1.4m has offer for 2.6m yet he does not want to sell. And I heard some of them queue overnight to get the units.
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in their 1st few phases....no need to queue lah.........plenty units available........

after that never follow up with USjH jor......
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QUOTE(BRE @ Nov 20 2017, 10:04 PM)
Isola last time sold i thnk abt 600+psft now new benchmark 900+psft. Future sjcc launch 1000psft? 😨mau compete wth parque😅
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wasnt isola 700+psf
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wasnt isola 700+psf
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Upon vp yes....

But if u check onlime ad now.....asking 850-1000psf....
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Upon vp yes....

But if u check onlime ad now.....asking 850-1000psf....
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launch price I mean. few years back. isola is a good product.
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Those who bought huat. I know a guy who bought at 890k sold it for 1.6m last year. Another bought corner lot for 1.4m has offer for 2.6m yet he does not want to sell. And I heard some of them queue overnight to get the units.
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wow 100% gain in 4-5 yrs?😨 so good demand? Mayb bcos of ppl's perception tht its d most atas area in usj
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 22 2017, 01:50 AM)
Upon vp yes....

But if u check onlime ad now.....asking 850-1000psf....
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So lot 15 at 900psft is nt really high, new props must have higher psft compared 2 old stocks like isola, prices catching wth mk area wth parq selling 1100psft
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wow 100% gain in 4-5 yrs?😨 so good demand? Mayb bcos of ppl's perception tht its d most atas area in usj
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Which is the 3 top atas development in sj/usj?



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Which is the 3 top atas development in sj/usj?
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If u consider putra heights as part of sj its the glades n usj heights being part of d top 3. The glades is gng development min price oredi 1.5m.

Kingsley hill in ph could b oso d top atas prop in sj, smd high on d hill d highest point in sj 😊

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If u consider putra heights as part of sj its the glades n usj heights being part of d top 3. The glades is gng development min price oredi 1.5m.

Kingsley hill in ph could b oso d top atas prop in sj, smd high on d hill d highest point in sj 😊
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For PH, Twin Palms and Glades are nice, but if I am not wrong, Kingsley had landslide before.
Just USJ/ SJ alone, I would vote for USJH and Isola. I had high hopes for Damen before but it failed miserably.
Of course, USJ 17 is great too but Restres is a different kettle of fish altogether. The rest of condos did not live up well. That's my opinion.


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how about Asia Cafe redevelopment (The Grand @ SS15) comparing to this Lot 15?
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QUOTE(funniman @ Nov 22 2017, 10:05 AM)
For PH, Twin Palms and Glades are nice, but if I am not wrong, Kingsley had landslide before.
Just USJ/ SJ alone, I would vote for USJH and Isola. I had high hopes for Damen before but it failed miserably.
Of course, USJ 17 is great too but Restres is a different kettle of fish altogether. The rest of condos did not live up well. That's my opinion.
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Where is this twin palms? Is it royal palms bungalows? Yes its nice together with d dsl mascarena palms n grandis palms.

D kh landslide quite some time ago but now u c d smd frm d hill so nice

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i like boutique development like Tanamera.....

but may not be practical for most people.

The Glades is really started from 1.5mil? even the townhouse?
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i like boutique development like Tanamera.....

but may not be practical for most people.

The Glades is really started from 1.5mil? even the townhouse?
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koreck thts d min price 4 townhouse but now wth rebates mayb price lower. Sdp will b launching d 1st condo in d glades north brookes 60+ units only min size i thnk 1200sft frm 900+psft same wth lot 15 but no news when
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I think any project from high end developer must include its immediate neighbourhood. If neighbour developments is nice, the project sure sell well. SD can work well cos it is developing townships and they can plan accordingly. They can afford to landscape and create beautiful lakes.
Tanamera is nice except for its road access entrance. Inside is nicely laid out too


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Nxt prop in sjcc i thnk anthr bbb mode as its nearer 2 empire n lrt stn
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Nxt prop in sjcc i thnk anthr bbb mode as its nearer 2 empire n lrt stn
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There are so much of land at the existing KTM carpark. If Lot 15 which is in a least attractive location sell for RM900 - 1000 psf, what price you think it will be for this new phase? Knowing SD well, they will launch one after another in sequence to build up the entire area. You never know if they will launch Tower 3 at Isola.


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Got tower 3 in isola? Future launch all above 1000psft in sjcc they cant launch lower than lot 15's psft
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Got tower 3 in isola? Future launch all above 1000psft in sjcc they cant launch lower than lot 15's psft
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There's empty land between present towers n access bridge into Subang Jaya. That is tower 3. New benchmark for sjcc is 1000 psf. U r right.

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friends studios in saujana residency are easy to rent out at 2.3k or so. can't compare lot15 with those casa tiara etc
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Tnb stn just across d road so radiation level very high😨in addition 2 htc
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I am very familiar with this area and developments around. So far the most decent highrise would be Saujana Residency, i have many friends renting and the location is perfect to anywhere you name it. The landscape is well maintained so far. Isola has a weird egress. Olive subang is a big NO if you plan to stay.

Back to Lot 15, the location is not bad. Actually it is very far from HTC. The whole high tension stretches along that KTM line anyway meaning you will see it from one side along Saujana Residency, Empire Soho, Isola, Olive and cross over to the One Soho. There is one problem i see currently though ie Sime Darby must provide sufficient visitor parkings because the office staffs at the Mesiniaga usually flood over the Lot 15 area. Many cars are park along that road on daily basis.

Honestly if it is RM1k/sqft it would be wiped out immediately.
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So good demand 1kpsft wiped out immediately?😨 solaris parq 1100psft very near leh😊
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quiet in this thread. not many facilities pics posted yet. I like their branding. really attracts those subangjaya residents.
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If you walk over to the empty land behind Subang Parade Digital Mall, you will see a project signboard that 2 residential towers are proposed to be built by Sime Darby. You can be sure the psf will be much higher than Lot 15.


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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 7 2017, 10:49 PM)
quiet in this thread. not many facilities pics posted yet. I like their branding. really attracts those subangjaya residents.
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Ya u c their ad 1 lengchai n 2 lenglui obviously they r targetting d younger generation, i thnk youngsters bot it via fama funds
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If you walk over to the empty land behind Subang Parade Digital Mall, you will see a project signboard that 2 residential towers are proposed to be built by Sime Darby. You can be sure the psf will be much higher than Lot 15.
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Sdp manyak land there more high rise coming in sjcc creating d mk of selangor😊😀

Future launches d psft may b d same as solaris parq's psft soon
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Sdp manyak land there more high rise coming in sjcc creating d mk of selangor😊😀

Future launches d psft may b d same as solaris parq's psft soon
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They are capitalising on LRT, Kommuter and BRT interchanges. Opposite is the UOA Business Park and I believe Subang Parade is due for overhaul. Aeon Big is nearby and SJMC also within walking distance. Empire 2 is in the offing too. Prices is sure to move up.

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QUOTE(funniman @ Dec 8 2017, 10:33 AM)
They are capitalising on LRT, Kommuter and BRT interchanges. Opposite is the UOA Business Park and I believe Subang Parade is due for overhaul. Aeon Big is nearby and SJMC also within walking distance. Empire 2 is in the offing too. Prices is sure to move up.
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Hektar reit is planning 2 reno subang parade. Empire 2? U mean another empire mall there?
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QUOTE(funniman @ Dec 8 2017, 09:33 AM)
They are capitalising on LRT, Kommuter and BRT interchanges. Opposite is the UOA Business Park and I believe Subang Parade is due for overhaul. Aeon Big is nearby and SJMC also within walking distance. Empire 2 is in the offing too. Prices is sure to move up.
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honestly tis subang area is self sustainable. Beside got height restriction, condos mostly look better when they are not too skyscrapping.

but for lot 15 and other possible lots in SJCC, am really worried abt the noise and dust pollutions, beside the HTC view and the TNB substation.
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Hektar reit is planning 2 reno subang parade. Empire 2? U mean another empire mall there?
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The piece of land formerly occupied by Land office, next to Wisma Consplant is owned by MRCB. Heard they are going to build a mall there called Empire 2.
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The piece of land formerly occupied by Land office, next to Wisma Consplant is owned by MRCB. Heard they are going to build a mall there called Empire 2.
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MRCB bought over Empire 1?

they still keeping the name Empire?
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The piece of land formerly occupied by Land office, next to Wisma Consplant is owned by MRCB. Heard they are going to build a mall there called Empire 2.
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Another mall there? Must have obtained approval earlier since it shud b above 1m. Didn hear any news abt this land earlier
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Another mall there? Must have obtained approval earlier since it shud b above 1m. Didn hear any news abt this land earlier
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No. No more mall in Subang Jaya.
Don't we have enough malls in Subang.

Why don't they built a park.
A multi storey park with playground, jogging tracks, futsal couts , walking paths and landscape it nicely.

Populate it with healthy eating food stalls or restaurant.

The park can open until late night as it is within a building with security and CCTV.
I don't mind paying a small fee to enter the park.

Not malls or high rise with 500 units/acre density.


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MRCB bought over Empire 1?

they still keeping the name Empire?
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https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1055739/mam...it-back-5-years

Empire Shopping Gallery sold to PHB la... Why suddenly MRCB pulak???
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https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1055739/mam...it-back-5-years

Empire Shopping Gallery sold to PHB la... Why suddenly MRCB pulak???
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Land owned by someone who injected it into MRCB. Final developer for land dunno. Property guys told me about the mall and it is commercial land.
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QUOTE(confusedway @ Dec 8 2017, 01:44 PM)
https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1055739/mam...it-back-5-years

Empire Shopping Gallery sold to PHB la... Why suddenly MRCB pulak???
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Bro funniman talking abt d cp land previously occupied by petaling land ofis nt esg

Land transferred 2 gapurna, d co owned by mrcb md in exchange 4 building new land ofis in shah alam

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what is the USP beside walking distance to KTM... cos front block by flyover bridge and back is TNB... jus my opinion...
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Walking distance 2 ab, sp n esg. Lrt also in addition 2 ktm
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QUOTE(Longshot @ Dec 8 2017, 12:10 PM)
No. No more mall in Subang Jaya.
Don't we have enough malls in Subang.

Why don't they built a park.
A multi storey park with playground, jogging tracks, futsal couts , walking paths and landscape it nicely.

Populate it with healthy eating food stalls or restaurant.

The park can open until late night as it is within a building with security and CCTV.
I don't mind paying a small fee to enter the park.

Not malls or high rise with 500 units/acre density.
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all Developers see are $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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yea... park = zero return... might as well just leave it as empty land biggrin.gif
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yea... park = zero return... might as well just leave it as empty land biggrin.gif
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learn wat from Starling?

does starling come with public park and what nots?
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learn wat from Starling?

does starling come with public park and what nots?
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that small park shown on the photo is a public park.... and the top floor of the building too is also a public park... haha
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that small park shown on the photo is a public park.... and the top floor of the building too is also a public park... haha
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1st...this is an artist illustration.

2nd....even based on this artist illustration, the park is so small, and the roof top 'park' may or may not opened to public, even though I don't see it as park.

might as well go to the lake side at the back of subang medical centre.. PROPER PARK THERE, with lake and jogging track.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 9 2017, 10:30 AM)
1st...this is an artist illustration.

2nd....even based on this artist illustration, the park is so small, and the roof top 'park' may or may not opened to public, even though I don't see it as park.

might as well go to the lake side at the back of subang medical centre.. PROPER PARK THERE, with lake and jogging track.
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starling already completed liao mar... so the park is actually the same as the illustration... went thr few times for movie and makan2... and the roof top park at the mall also open to public one... just beside cinema... those waiting for movie time... bercumbu cumbuan there... same applies to the one at ground floor... but its not that big... and u wont see ppl jog at a mall's park... of course there might be exception cases... hahahah laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(funniman @ Dec 8 2017, 10:45 AM)
The piece of land formerly occupied by Land office, next to Wisma Consplant is owned by MRCB. Heard they are going to build a mall there called Empire 2.
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I understand the whole stretch of land opposite Isola owed by Sime Darby and will have more developments not sure when.

I dont see any problem having more high rises or boutique malls there as we have the capacity to cater for. Besides the whole stretch will looks more vibrant. Nothing like Starling la (too much buffer) nor park (too dusty) as is a busy road along here. The only thing along here a lot of fly overs view lol!

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Dec 9 2017, 10:32 AM)
starling already completed liao mar... so the park is actually the same as the illustration... went thr few times for movie and makan2... and the roof top park at the mall also open to public one... just beside cinema... those waiting for movie time... bercumbu cumbuan there... same applies to the one at ground floor... but its not that big... and u wont see ppl jog at a mall's park... of course there might be exception cases... hahahah  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Is just a plaza spaces at the ground for aesthetic, breathing spaces and for car to circulate. Not pedestrians friendly nor any seating spaces around. Day time is hot and no covered areas at all.

Top floor at the garden mostly artificial grasses with few trees . Most can spend 10 minutes there walking from 1 short end to another. No playground or whatsoever. No further comments lol.
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QUOTE(angelatby @ Dec 10 2017, 09:45 AM)
Is just a plaza spaces at the ground for aesthetic, breathing spaces and for car to circulate. Not pedestrians friendly nor any seating spaces around. Day time is hot and no covered areas at all.

Top floor at the garden mostly artificial grasses with few trees . Most can spend 10 minutes there walking from 1 short end to another. No playground or whatsoever. No further comments lol.
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that's what I thought...... thumbup.gif

these days ppl really lower their standard
less than 1acre of green patch......called Park
small water retention pond....called lake

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 9 2017, 10:30 AM)
1st...this is an artist illustration.

2nd....even based on this artist illustration, the park is so small, and the roof top 'park' may or may not opened to public, even though I don't see it as park.

might as well go to the lake side at the back of subang medical centre.. PROPER PARK THERE, with lake and jogging track.
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1st, this is not artist illustration la if you look properly.

secondly, the roof top sky park is open to public la.

lastly, you have to be realistic also la. now we are not talking about having a park, we are talking about what is the least developer can do in their development mah.

no park kena marah, ada park pun kena marah... shakehead.gif be reasonable sikit la.
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QUOTE(Karen1995 @ Dec 10 2017, 11:10 AM)
1st, this is not artist illustration la if you look properly.

secondly, the roof top sky park is open to public la.

lastly, you have to be realistic also la. now we are not talking about having a park, we are talking about what is the least developer can do in their development mah.

no park kena marah, ada park pun kena marah... shakehead.gif  be reasonable sikit la.
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I did look properly (you should too)...its a computer generated image. just look at the cars and buildings.

no lah...someone commented developer should build recreation park and one guy said macam starling mah....
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When I mentioned park, I was referring to a multi-floor park or something like a sports complex.
This concept is relatively new (at least for Malaysian) as I saw it in some magazine.

Basically it is made vertically (like vertical gardening) where you house the swimming pool and water features on the roof or top floor.
The water features with small fountains will act to cool the top which is expose to the sun.

The water feature will flow down to the lower floor creating a water fall effect for the lower floors.
The floor below can have jogging tracks, yoga space or just simple walk path for people to stroll.
The next floor lower can house the indoor sports like futsal, squash, badminton etc.
U can also slot in some restaurant next to the water fall to create a fine dining experience.

Something like this will appeal to residents of Subang Jaya as almost all the houses there are individual title with very little facilities.
If you want to go for swimming, you have to drive somewhere and if you want to go for a game of futsal or badminton you have to go elsewhere or if your kids have different sports interest, you end up driving all over the places.
Wouldn't it be good if we have one central location.

Something like a sports complex but a much more modern one.

I think residents from PJ will also come if we have something like this.


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most probably they will build VR entertainment centre or reality travel experience in the mall.
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that's what I thought...... thumbup.gif

these days ppl really lower their standard
less than 1acre of green patch......called Park
small water retention pond....called lake
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they called The Starling as "mall in the park" isnt . A lot of birds deco. lol. pretty literal.
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https://www.edgeprop.my/content/1055739/mam...it-back-5-years

Empire Shopping Gallery sold to PHB la... Why suddenly MRCB pulak???
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Dec 10 2017, 11:15 AM)
I did look properly (you should too)...its a computer generated image. just look at the cars and buildings.

no lah...someone commented developer should build recreation park and one guy said macam starling mah....
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The land opposite Isola was sold in 2004 througha land swap. Gapurna Builders owned the land who injected it into MRCB. EPF & Gapurna are major shareholders of MRCB. The proposed development is commercial cum residential.
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what is the USP beside walking distance to KTM... cos front block by flyover bridge and back is TNB... jus my opinion...
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It is also an LRT station, not just KTM.

Flyover bridge not that high. Units start from level 10 onwards for a reason. Will not be blocked by neither flyover nor TNB as it is higher that both of these.

Rental occupancy and yield very high in the area.

Even the smallest unit has 2 Car parks

Freehold

SJCC area no more land only the several parcels owned by SDP
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QUOTE(SJCCarea @ Dec 22 2017, 09:21 PM)
It is also an LRT station, not just KTM.

Flyover bridge not that high. Units start from level 10 onwards for a reason. Will not be blocked by neither flyover nor TNB as it is higher that both of these.

Rental occupancy and yield very high in the area.

Even the smallest unit has 2 Car parks

Freehold

SJCC area no more land only the several parcels owned by SDP
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Location seems very good.

What is the price now , after discount?
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QUOTE(tikusniaga @ Feb 11 2018, 05:04 AM)
Location seems very good.

What is the price now , after discount?
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Interested?
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Yes , if the price is right.

But not at ridiculously high price like 1,000 psf.
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Yes , if the price is right.

But not at ridiculously high price like 1,000 psf.
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Still the same. 850 sqft unit going for 800k after discounts. I see there were still like 30% (didn't really count, see sticker only) that are unsold. That is as at today.
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Hahaha, 1000psf in subang jaya! Awesome.

Got marble...?
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QUOTE(patienceGNR @ Mar 25 2018, 12:44 AM)
Still the same. 850 sqft unit going for 800k after discounts.  I see there were still like 30% (didn't really count, see sticker only) that are unsold. That is as at today.
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Dun forget there is bumi quote....

I would say despite 1000psf....its doing pretty well.

Of course still got better view units not opened yet right?
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Mar 25 2018, 02:38 AM)
Dun forget there is bumi quote....

I would say despite 1000psf....its doing pretty well.

Of course still got better view units not opened yet right?
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Not including bumi discounts.

Safe to say at least 50-60% is sold.

Other units I think open already. I saw from 10th to the top floors all got bookings dy.
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anybody took this? currently selling at 950 psf dono good or not , seems not really walking distance to lrt and right beside TNB
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anybody took this? currently selling at 950 psf dono good or not , seems not really walking distance to lrt and right beside TNB
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how many % is the take up rate so far?

all units launched?
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Anyone bought?Good idea to get this? Which is better grand SS15 or lot 15?
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Anyone bought?Good idea to get this? Which is better grand SS15 or lot 15?
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u comparing BMW and Perodua.... doh.gif
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Sorry, which is BMW and which is perodua cause both is shit expensive
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u comparing BMW and Perodua.... doh.gif
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Lot15 is about 900-1000psf rite?

SS15 is about 850psf.

if only BMW is that cheap compared to perodua.
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u comparing BMW and Perodua.... doh.gif
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Huh? How so? It's for investment by the way
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Lot15 is about 900-1000psf rite?

SS15 is about 850psf.

if only BMW is that cheap compared to perodua.
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Ss15 is 500 plus sqft only. If I get lot 15 I'll get the studio. It's 600 plus sqft. But I'm looking for investment. The lot15 is 140k more. But it's Sime Darby. Reputable developer compared to Mediaraya. Also electric is commercial in Ss15 if that makes any difference. Thanks
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QUOTE(teen08 @ Jul 17 2018, 12:24 AM)
Ss15 is 500 plus sqft only. If I get lot 15 I'll get the studio. It's 600 plus sqft. But I'm looking for investment. The lot15 is 140k more. But it's Sime Darby. Reputable developer compared to Mediaraya. Also electric is commercial in Ss15 if that makes any difference. Thanks
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Both are commercial rates for the start.

Location lot 15 sucks.

Configiration ss15 sucks.
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Both are commercial rates for the start.

Location lot 15 sucks.

Configiration ss15 sucks.
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I didn't know lot15 was commercial as well. Anyways yes both points are correct.
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Huh? How so? It's for investment by the way
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What is ur investment strategy?

Buy Lot15 and bleed out cash every month and hope it would appreciate to 1400 psf in the next 10 years?

Buy ss15 at 850psf to compete and have rental war with menara rajawali, myplace apartment and multiple shoplot student accommodations for the reduced number of students?

Please let me know ur strategy. I would like to learn.
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What is ur investment strategy?

Buy Lot15 and bleed out cash every month and hope it would appreciate to 1400 psf in the next 10 years?

Buy ss15 at 850psf to compete and have rental war with menara rajawali, myplace apartment and multiple shoplot student accommodations for the reduced number of students?

Please let me know ur strategy. I would like to learn.
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First of all I posted a question as which one is better. Where would you recommend then to invest? I also wanna learn. lol.

Secondly, everywhere also got other people want to rent their place. not sure if you places where only you and a few others only giving out for rent. Please let me know if there is. I also wanna invest. 🤣

By the way thanks for the info for the grand Ss15 property.

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For rental, The Grand SS15 is good choice.
For property appreciation, I believe Lot 15 since many who book this property for own stay.
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What I find odd about Lot 15 is why is there a Surau facility? Is there soho units or offices in the premise cause it makes no sense to have a surau on a fully residential unit.
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What I find odd about Lot 15 is why is there a Surau facility? Is there soho units or offices in the premise cause it makes no sense to have a surau on a fully residential unit.
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i blive its mpsj's requiirement?
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What I find odd about Lot 15 is why is there a Surau facility? Is there soho units or offices in the premise cause it makes no sense to have a surau on a fully residential unit.
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residential units?

hello, the whole stretch of land there is commercial.

beside, its common to have praying space in all projects, no?
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i blive its mpsj's requiirement?
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MPSJ got such requirement? Not sure if Tropicana is considered SJ area but all their residential tower does not have Surau
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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Jul 18 2018, 07:46 PM)
MPSJ got such requirement? Not sure if Tropicana is considered SJ area but all their residential tower does not have Surau
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Trop garden or

Trop metropark?

Metro is mbsa

Garden is mppj
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 18 2018, 10:40 AM)
residential units?

hello, the whole stretch of land there is commercial.

beside, its common to have praying space in all projects, no?
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Dude, the building is for residential purposes... what does that got to do with the land being commercial or not?

No, its not common for condo/service apartment to have surau especially if they are solely for residential purposes, basically non SOHO type. Mainly because it makes no sense since people could just pray at their own home so why the need to put a surau on the facilities area?

As far as I know only Soho units or projects under "certain" developers have surau (correct me if I'm wrong)

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Trop garden or

Trop metropark?

Metro is mbsa

Garden is mppj
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Tropicana metropark.

Does that mean all apartment/condo in subang would have a surau in their facility area?
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Tropicana metropark.

Does that mean all apartment/condo in subang would have a surau in their facility area?
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As far as i know, all resi condo and apartments have surau or praying room in klang valley.
Dont know where you got the idea that highrise doesnt have prayer room.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 18 2018, 10:40 PM)
As far as i know, all resi condo and apartments have surau or praying room in klang valley.
Dont know where you got the idea that highrise doesnt have prayer room.
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It does not make any sense to build a surau on residential condos though since you could just pray at home.
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It does not make any sense to build a surau on residential condos though since you could just pray at home.
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It just prayer room lah....

Not those free standing structure with minerat n loud apeaker.

If everyone can pray at home then this world doesnt need mosque temple church n kuih jor.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 18 2018, 10:49 PM)
It just prayer room lah....

Not those free standing structure with minerat n loud apeaker.

If everyone can pray at home then this world doesnt need mosque temple church n kuih jor.
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I mean, it felt like the space could have taken to build something else. It's a common area after all...

I'm ok if let's say there are 2 level of Soho units then the surau is build within the Soho level. Make sense but for residential building having a surau on the facilities area just doesn't seem logical to me... unless that person don't like his own home.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jul 18 2018, 08:50 PM)
Trop garden or

Trop metropark?

Metro is mbsa

Garden is mppj
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Tmp under mpsj la nt mbsa
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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Jul 18 2018, 10:56 PM)
I mean, it felt like the space could have taken to build something else. It's a common area after all...

I'm ok if let's say there are 2 level of Soho units then the surau is build within the Soho level. Make sense but for residential building having a surau on the facilities area just doesn't seem logical to me... unless that person don't like his own home.
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QUOTE(teen08 @ Nov 20 2017, 01:12 PM)
From what I see is 85% is already taken up. The pic is from Sunday at around 6pm
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Why all the bottom units are taken but not top? People no rike high levels?


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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Nov 21 2017, 11:12 AM)
really dropped glasses.

harve BJ near HTC, kena ppl hantam left right and centre.

and this one close to 1000psf....yet ppl all rush to sapu htc view..........

even USjH also close to HTC but they still sell like hotcake.

whereas in Eco Forest thread, ppl withdrew their booking bcos there is land allocated for HTC.

Perhaps EW needs to learn a thing or two about SIME.
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I noticed that Tower A is slanting to the far left I believe non of the units are facing the TNB and high tension cables. I believe only the far right units could view the TNB and HTC, other units especially the far left and Tower B doesn't seem to have that problem
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I'm just wondering... why is lot 15 so expensive PSF compared to other service apartment in prime area?

Tropicana spent RM106mil to build the federal highway bridge and they bought the land at quite a hefty price hence I understand why they are charging at RM800+psf despite not being in prime area. Lot 15 does not seem to have any external construction (bridge to mall / special walk path to LRT) and Sime Darby got the land DIRT CHEAP since they owned the land many years back.

I was expecting that they would charge around RM700-800+psf (Standard rate for most serviced apartment in prime area like Panaroma KJ/south link)

But they seem to charge a premium level rate despite not having to build any external construction & again... they got the land for DIRT CHEAP.

So why is it being charged at such a high rate? Did they use the money for better material or they pocket a shit ton of profit from this project?

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Another analogy.. if you have acquired a bungalow in Damansara heights for rm100k 30years ago, would you sell it at rm500k today?

The answer is you will sell it at market price at willing buyer willing seller.

Similar to all developers.
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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 22 2018, 09:44 PM)
Another analogy..  if you have acquired a bungalow in Damansara heights for rm100k 30years ago, would you sell it at rm500k today?

The answer is you will sell it at market price at willing buyer willing seller.

Similar to all developers.
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This guy...give him cheap and plenty of facilities he scared and questioned why so cheap and full of facilities.

Now he complained why lot15 so expensive.
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This guy...give him cheap and plenty of facilities he scared and questioned why so cheap and full of facilities.

Now he complained why lot15 so expensive.
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Not complaining bro, just wanted to know the reason behind their pricing... you also see the contrast right?

1 shit load of facility, being in prime area + near LRT + generally better view - Cheaper PSF

another very much less facility, being in prime area + near LRT + view definitely takada - Expensive PSF

There must be a reason why there is a contrast that I don't know about hmm.gif

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QUOTE(gks @ Jul 22 2018, 09:44 PM)
Another analogy..  if you have acquired a bungalow in Damansara heights for rm100k 30years ago, would you sell it at rm500k today?

The answer is you will sell it at market price at willing buyer willing seller.

Similar to all developers.
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That is why I did not say they should charge RM500+ psf like those cheap lands on outskirt but they are charging more than most project out there with similar capacity. Since they are charging a premium, is there any reason to it? Perhaps better material being use, better M&E/equipment like better lifts or more quality facilities... better security feature perhaps? I don't know... just wondering why are they charging so much.... I don't believe it is solely because the project is situated in subang... I know it is a prime land but at that rate they are very close to those semi high end project in KL adi..

Honestly though, I thought they would have charged lower (in view that their land was acquired at a cheap rate) so that people would sapu the project very quickly, the uptake is not as expected by their boss which predicted that by June everything will be sold but it seems that there are still quite a number of unsold units

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QUOTE(JasonLeeX @ Jul 22 2018, 11:57 PM)
Not complaining bro, just wanted to know the reason behind their pricing... you also see the contrast right?

1 shit load of facility, being in prime area + near LRT + generally better view - Cheaper PSF

another very much less facility, being in prime area + near LRT + view definitely takada - Expensive PSF

There must be a reason why there is a contrast that I don't know about  hmm.gif
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Just read the report on 1mdb and ecrl.

Its all there.

If najib had won the last election, you are buying from cina mari co, not loh&loh anymore

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I saw the brochure ada main lobby / waiting lounge.. Picture show macam like having a hotel like lobby with drop off porch.

They also have a dedicated control room separated from the guard house and management office?

They building a hotel or what?

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Any lot 15 buyers here? Mind sharing how much PSF you've bought your property, at what level and how many SQF (after discount everything)

I wanna compare between different project and average out see if the project is deemed value for money

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Can somebody tell me what "added value" Lot 15 is actually giving to its client/buyers? *Basic facilities & nearby amenities (location) are not added values.*

Every projects have its own added value that attracts the consumers

1) Pavillion Bukit Jalil - They build a dedicated bridge linking to the park for park residence and a dedicated bridge linking to the mall + park for Park 2

2) Tropicana Metropark - They build a RM100+mil bridge straight linking to the federal highway, bypassing the toll (it's kinda useless now since toll is abolished) and they managed to turn their postcode to be administered under MBSJ instead of MBSA for the benefit of the residences

3) Panorama Kelana Jaya - A huge piece of land was dedicated for facilities and heard they are building a walkway/pathway linking straight to the LRT for the residence convenience.


As far as I know, Lot 15 does not seem to offer any added value to its residences (correct me if I'm wrong). They gave the bare minimum facilities and instead of using the land to maximize the interest of the residence by building something useful for the residence or something that would benefit the residence, they build shops at the ground floor to rake in more profit (for sale not controlled/leased/managed by sime) instead.

The land was bought by Sime at a very very low price many years ago and they are charging a premium at the same time, they could enhance the residence experience and still make a hefty profit but by the looks of it, they are just maximizing their pocket while giving the bare minimum to the buyers and surprisingly there are people still investing on this project. Don't get me wrong, even other premium projects that cashes in on locality like pavilion bukit jalil and some other projects from bangsar south/damansara, would still try to balance between profit and providing a lasting experience to their buyers.

Perhaps they are giving back to the residences via other methods like better quality/high class materials for the common area facilities and grand entrance OR they are actually making a shaded walkway/pathway for the residences convenience to the LRT/a future bridge that links to a future mall in front of the LRT (I highly doubt these would happen since they did not mention anything during the selling stage, not likely that they would spend money on something after the project is sold off or handed over) OR they are furnishing the common area with quality pool table in the game room, books in reading area etc. (Basically fully furnished facilities for the residences).

Otherwise, this project just felt like Sime is squeezing every cent they can get while leaving the bare minimal. Then again, there are people still buying so....



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When you can sell at premium price with min value added, why bother?


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When you can sell at premium price with min value added, why bother?
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That's what surprises me the most when people still invest in it. Cost a bomb but getting little value out of it. Maybe I'm wrong though but that is what I felt from the info I'm getting.

It cost just as much as the park 2 PSF but seems to offer so much less.

Also, Malton did not need to build the bridge to the park. Without it the project is already selling like hot cakes but I believe that is just the icing on the cake. Same goes to all the project within walking distance to transit like Panorama, south link etc. but they still throw in a whole bunch of facilities and giving other added value stuff (well I can't really say much about Panorama KJ "walkway linking to the LRT" thing cause they did not advertise and was only known via the buyers "claim" when they visited the gallery)

Sime is definitely banking in a huge profit out of Lot 15 with such high take up rate, charging such high premium, costing so little on land purchase while giving so little value.

Again, I might be wrong though... there are things that I might not know...

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That's what surprises me the most when people still invest in it. Cost a bomb but getting little value out of it. Maybe I'm wrong though but that is what I felt from the info I'm getting.

It cost just as much as the park 2 PSF but seems to offer so much less.

Also, Malton did not need to build the bridge to the park. Without it the project is already selling like hot cakes but I believe that is just the icing on the cake. Same goes to all the project within walking distance to transit like Panorama, south link etc. but they still throw in a whole bunch of facilities and giving other added value stuff (well I can't really say much about Panorama KJ "walkway linking to the LRT" thing cause they did not advertise and was only known via the buyers "claim" when they visited the gallery)

Sime is definitely banking in a huge profit out of Lot 15 with such high take up rate, charging such high premium, costing so little on land purchase while giving so little value.

Again, I might be wrong though... there are things that I might not know...
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sime property doesn't own the land lah…..maybe different sister company. in any event, we should take the market value of the land, not historical value.

the connection to LRT will be completed when the entire SJBC completed kua.

actually the location of LOT15 is pretty good. BUT what I don't like is closeness to the huge TNB station. This one I really cant accept.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Aug 16 2018, 09:36 AM)
sime property doesn't own the land lah…..maybe different sister company. in any event, we should take the market value of the land, not historical value.

the connection to LRT will be completed when the entire SJBC completed kua.

actually the location of LOT15 is pretty good. BUT what I don't like is closeness to the huge TNB station. This one I really cant accept.
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I don't think the TNB station is a big issue. I believe some people might be put off by the TNB station but the TNB station isn't really that close.

I've passed by the site and the edge of Lot 15 at worst would face the office building/genset. The transmission line faces the right corner of Messiniaga, which is definitely out of sight. The HTC is way further..

In addition, the project seems to be built tilted to the left hence at worse, the corner right unit of tower A (which I believe is the 1k Sqf units) would at worse face the window part of the TNB. The far right units of Tower A won't even face TNB at all.

If the sight of TNB is your worries, then I believe it is not an issue. If it is electromagnet or whatever "health" rumour related reasons, there are many projects located near HTC like the high end semi-D behind UOA business park and many expensive villas usually have a mini substation next to it etc... so far there are no reported health issue despite them living close to HTC and TNB substation so..

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I don't think the TNB station is a big issue. I believe some people might be put off by the TNB station but the TNB station isn't really that close.

I've passed by the site and the edge of Lot 15 at worst would face the office building/genset. The transmission line faces the right corner of Messiniaga, which is definitely out of sight. The HTC is way further..

In addition, the project seems to be built tilted to the left hence at worse, the corner right unit of tower A (which I believe is the 1k Sqf units) would at worse face the window part of the TNB. The far right units of Tower A won't even face TNB at all.

If the sight of TNB is your worries, then I believe it is not an issue. If it is electromagnet or whatever "health" rumour related reasons, there are many projects located near HTC like the high end semi-D behind UOA business park and many expensive villas usually have a mini substation next to it etc... so far there are no reported health issue despite them living close to HTC and TNB substation so..
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If your popety is cheap enuf compare to the rest ppl wont see the negativity of such elements.

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If your popety is cheap enuf compare to the rest ppl wont see the negativity of such elements.
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Then your point adds. As mentioned before, they are charging a premium and don't have any added value, PLUS your comment on HTC which would definitely affect this property since this property is not cheap enuff.

So why is the take up rate is still so high?
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Where actually is this location? And what’s the psf ? Is it beside subang parade near LRT?
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Where actually is this location? And what’s the psf ? Is it beside subang parade near LRT?
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Beside mesiniaga.
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Then your point adds. As mentioned before, they are charging a premium and don't have any added value, PLUS your comment on HTC which would definitely affect this property since this property is not cheap enuff.

So why is the take up rate is still so high?
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High take up rate doesnt mean the project will do well in subsale market.
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High take up rate doesnt mean the project will do well in subsale market.
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If Sime go ahead with their original plan which is to build a retail mall "union place" right infront of lot 15... I highly doubt anyone will care about the substation anymore especially when the area further develop as per the concept plan (They will definitely need to build something anyway...unless they plan to just pummel the entire area with serviced apartment then I got no comment). Seriously it is not that near anyway since they purposely slant the entire tower A to avoid the building facing the substation and its further especially if you buy the corner units to the left.


It's not like it is the following :

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Its ok. I cant buy every single project anyway. Therefore some projects need to find some faults to comfort me why i didnt buy.

If you think this is the sure win project, why not proceed?

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Aug 18 2018, 11:09 PM)
Its ok. I cant buy every single project anyway. Therefore some projects need to find some faults to comfort me why i didnt buy.

If you think this is the sure win project, why not proceed?
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I did not say it is a sure win, I just think the substation doesn't feel like a severe contributing factor. Does it affect the desirability? Yes, but not a severe contributing factor especially to units that are further from the TNB station, to me at least.


The only downside is like I said, what is the "added value" are they giving? Pavilion Park 2 is a premium residence like lot 15 but if they are giving something more (bridge to the mall/park and I heard got shuttle service), why not buy there instead?

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Aug 18 2018, 11:30 PM)
I did not say it is a sure win, I just think the substation doesn't feel like a severe contributing factor. Does it affect the desirability? Yes, but not a severe contributing factor especially to units that are further from the TNB station, to me at least.
The only downside is like I said, what is the "added value" are they giving? Pavilion Park 2 is a premium residence like lot 15 but if they are giving something more (bridge to the mall/park and I heard got shuttle service), why not buy there instead?
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I went past the site....the tnb station is turning me off. And like you said, they also priced it on premium i dont see any attraction there. Unless the sjcc masterplan is enticing enuf but according to sime the entire project will take 10 to 15yrs, translating in human term....more than 15yrs. I think its just too long to hold.

Each project ihas different proposition. You cant compare this project w park2. They are not the same.
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Aug 18 2018, 11:01 PM)
If Sime go ahead with their original plan which is to build a retail mall "union place" right infront of lot 15... I highly doubt anyone will care about the substation anymore especially when the area further develop as per the concept plan (They will definitely need to build something anyway...unless they plan to just pummel the entire area with serviced apartment then I got no comment). Seriously it is not that near anyway since they purposely slant the entire tower A to avoid the building facing the substation and its further especially if you buy the corner units to the left.
It's not like it is the following :

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Which project is this where u can hang clothes on the HTC?
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I went past the site....the tnb station is turning me off. And like you said, they also priced it on premium  i dont see any attraction there. Unless the sjcc masterplan is enticing enuf but according to sime the entire project will take 10 to 15yrs, translating in human term....more than 15yrs. I think its just too long to hold.

Each project ihas different proposition. You cant compare this project w park2. They are not the same.
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Well I guess the corner units away from the TNB value could fetch more in terms of subsales compared to the ones nearer to the TNB. I myself was paranoid about the substation at first despite it being considerably out of sight and there are no evidence of any negative effects for those living near a substation, let alone this substation is not those ugly blue and grey substation by TNB (it looks rather nice and modern) but I guess since if you and me have a negative view on it, I believe some others would have too hence I strongly believe the units further away from the TNB could fetch better value in the future compared to the units nearer to the TNB station (at the very least, the TNB is nowhere insight from your window) Imagine waking up in the morning staring down the big electrical prongs.

However, the amenities are too good to give up for such petty unproven issues though. Just wish Sime could have done more to increase the appeal of the project.

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How much nett psf for a unit here?
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How much nett psf for a unit here?
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I'm guessing about RM900-RM1,000 average.

I still felt that Sime could offer more for the residence based on the pricing of the project. Perhaps providing more furnishing or throw in some smart home system etc. because the price does not justify what the project is offering at all.

This project is priced the same as Ativo @ Damansara Avenue, which is ridiculous when you think about it.

Damansara Avenue is by default a premium area compared to Subang Jaya. So why is Lot 15 pricing their project the same as Ativo? Is it because they give better finishing or facilities?

I've done some digging on this and it seems that Ativo is offering a hell lot more in terms of facilities. On top of that, they are equipped with smart home system plus it is Fully fitted kitchen & bathrooms, built-in wardrobes and fitted with air-conditioning. Lot 15 on the other hand does not provide any finishing like air-cond or wardrobes or anything at all. The only thing they are giving out is the"kitchen cabinet voucher" and that is on "PROMOTION" basis. Ativo finishing is not any inferior to Lot 15's either.

In addition Ativo is proposing a Link Bridge to Sri Damansara East Station (MRT Line 2) whereas as mentioned before, Lot 15 is not doing anything extra or providing any "added value" to the project.

It just doesn't make sense for Sime not to actually tries to enhance the added value for this project since this is one of their first few "High spec service residence" project

I also noticed Sime is starting to advertise around Subang more than before and I believe they are going to push even harder on their marketing strategy to sell the remaining units which was previously predicted by them that all units will be sold before June 2018. If their strategy is to reduce the pricing to get the units sold off quicker, habis lah all the existing buyers would definitely rugi. But I doubt Sime would be that stupid to go down with this strategy like the smaller developers cause the main reason for people to invest on such reputable developer like Sime is that they have deep pockets and holding power so early investor knows they are not going to make a wrong choice / lose out when the project first launch.

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sime darby brand name already worth 200psf more than anyone else already.

TA is not known for reputable products.

Subang Jaya City Center semua sudah ada, TOD, shopping malls, office and etc.

Damansara Avenue apa ada? two blocks of service apartments and a hell of grand master plan that goes nowhere?

If I am not mistaken, the link to MRT only materialised IF the shopping mall is up.
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I'm guessing about RM900-RM1,000 average.

I still felt that Sime could offer more for the residence based on the pricing of the project. Perhaps providing more furnishing or throw in some smart home system etc. because the price does not justify what the project is offering at all.

This project is priced the same as Ativo @ Damansara Avenue, which is ridiculous when you think about it.

Damansara Avenue is by default a premium area compared to Subang Jaya. So why is Lot 15 pricing their project the same as Ativo? Is it because they give better finishing or facilities?

I've done some digging on this and it seems that Ativo is offering a hell lot more in terms of facilities. On top of that, they are equipped with smart home system plus it is Fully fitted kitchen & bathrooms, built-in wardrobes and fitted with air-conditioning. Lot 15 on the other hand does not provide any finishing like air-cond or wardrobes or anything at all. The only thing they are giving out is the"kitchen cabinet voucher" and that is on "PROMOTION" basis. Ativo finishing is not any inferior to Lot 15's either.

In addition Ativo is proposing a Link Bridge to Sri Damansara East Station (MRT Line 2) whereas as mentioned before, Lot 15 is not doing anything extra or providing any "added value" to the project.

It just doesn't make sense for Sime not to actually tries to enhance the added value for this project since this is one of their first few "High spec service residence" project

I also noticed Sime is starting to advertise around Subang more than before and I believe they are going to push even harder on their marketing strategy to sell the remaining units which was previously predicted by them that all units will be sold before June 2018. If their strategy is to reduce the pricing to get the units sold off quicker, habis lah all the existing buyers would definitely rugi. But I doubt Sime would be that stupid to go down with this strategy like the smaller developers cause the main reason for people to invest on such reputable developer like Sime is that they have deep pockets and holding power so early investor knows they are not going to make a wrong choice / lose out when the project first launch.
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The last 4 to 5 lines already answer ur own question.
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and control of supply.

SIME never ever launch 1000 to 2000 units within short period of time.

even the so called SJCC also said need like 10 to 15 yrs to complete. Other developers probably can kautim in 5 yrs.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 3 2018, 10:40 AM)
sime darby brand name already worth 200psf more than anyone else already.

TA is not known for reputable products.

Subang Jaya City Center semua sudah ada, TOD, shopping malls, office and etc.

Damansara Avenue apa ada? two blocks of service apartments and a hell of grand master plan that goes nowhere?

If I am not mistaken, the link to MRT only materialised IF the shopping mall is up.
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What so grand about Sime Darby brand name? It's not like buying BMW or LV where brand names matters. Tropicana is among the top 10 but it seems that pandora and paloma thread showed full of poor workmanship. Sime itself also can't deliver Isola properly and delayed for almost 1 and a half year while smaller developers could deliver on time so what say you?

Expensive residence like four seasons are developed by venus asset, Ritz-Carlton by berjaya group, Dorsett by mayland group.. all of them are not even within the top 10 list so does that mean they are inferior compared to Sime/Setia project?

SJCC is not bad but it is not great either with 2 old malls (subang & big aeon) being the main attraction for lot 15. I've not heard anyone saying Subang being a premium area as opposed to the commonly expensive "Damansara". Additionally like what you've argued earlier, a big ass TNB station just right in front and a cheap low end Casa Tiara right beside.

For Ativo, while there are not many amenities apart from a 500m MRT and Ativo Plaza within walking distance, many other attractions like the park and The waterfront are within short distance drive. If the master plan were to succeed, it would be even better. Unlike TMP, Ativo surrounding is considered quite livable.

Not saying Ativo is great or anything (it has many flaws too) but just from the added value and other offerings the developer is giving to the project compared to Lot 15 giving only the bare minimum facilities with little furnishing provided and pretty much nothing else in terms of added value, Lot 15 comes off as overpriced to me. RM900-RM1k net is shit expensive for a project with so little to offer let alone that this is NET price after those limited time promotion while Ativo rate is on SPA (I have not contact Ativo sales but I'm sure after Net, it could be even lower than Lot 15)

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Sep 3 2018, 01:29 PM)
The last 4 to 5 lines already answer ur own question.
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That is just assuming Sime is not doing it but Sime is giving me the impression that they are desperate to sell it off with many banners being put up for advertisement and having to see this project appearing on web ads so frequently these days. Perhaps it is because Sime realize Lot 15 is not doing as well as they hoped which is to be able to sold the entire thing before June 2018.

Who knows, since Sime was so confident that they published their statement that the project will complete its sales before June 2018 and now they dint, Sime might end up giving even MORE discount to clear those units just to be able to answer to their board with this coming year end. If Sime were to do that, I think for me personally, I won't trust big developers anymore for investment (or at least won't put them as the top of my head when buying property) and I believe most investor would believe that too.

The odd thing about Sime's advertisement banner is that they've recently just put up few days ago a long the street lamp post highlighting their "Raya Promotion". I mean WTH? your raya promotion ends before 1st sept but you post that banner after 1st sept.

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30 years go subang earn them some credit. But since when SimeDarby has brand lol.
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That is just assuming Sime is not doing it but Sime is giving me the impression that they are desperate to sell it off with many banners being put up for advertisement and having to see this project appearing on web ads so frequently these days. Perhaps it is because Sime realize Lot 15 is not doing as well as they hoped which is to be able to sold the entire thing before June 2018.

Who knows, since Sime was so confident that they published their statement that the project will complete its sales before June 2018 and now they dint, Sime might end up giving even MORE discount to clear those units just to be able to answer to their board with this coming year end. If Sime were to do that, I think for me personally, I won't trust big developers anymore for investment (or at least won't put them as the top of my head when buying property) and I believe most investor would believe that too.

The odd thing about Sime's advertisement banner is that they've recently just put up few days ago a long the street lamp post highlighting their "Raya Promotion". I mean WTH? your raya promotion ends before 1st sept but you post that banner after 1st sept.
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SDP is like that one.
That's their style. Each developer has their own target and ways to achieve them. U may see Lot 15 as not worth it but there are also investors which believe in SDP and how they'll increase the value of their property.

U look at SDP launches these last few years, they are very often not value buy, often price way above others but somehow their property value is always preserve. Discount and rebates are low, rarely u get double digits even in down times.
BTW, SC first few launch are exception. That's the oni time when SDP leave a bit more on the table for it's customers.

Another example, Korean vs Japanese cars.
Koreans throw everything into their cars, so feature rich but somehow still got ppl buy Japanese. Why?

Another example, Gamuda launching Gamuda Cove.
Another example, Eco World launching of Cradleton in Eco Majestic a few years back.
Then got IOI, Setia, Paramount, PPSB etc

Plenty of example for you to study and learn.

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spotted a different developer's agent here.

what has damansara avenue achieved in the past 8 yrs??? how can sri damansara be compared with the heart of subang jaya. the high class perception of damansara surely doesn't come from this area that's beside damansara damai "high class".
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For me... Ativo is more of issue of developer than location.

Anyway.. The latest launch is not exactly cheap and so called "mrt link Bridge" I will take it with pinch of salt unless I saw it built in front of my eyes

At the moment if I want to put my money it will be on lot15. I would think anyone who want to buy condo in this part will prefer to buy in DPC.
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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 3 2018, 11:43 PM)
For me... Ativo is more of issue of developer than location.

Anyway.. The latest launch is not exactly cheap and so called "mrt link Bridge" I will take it with pinch of salt unless I saw it built in front of my eyes

At the moment if I want to put my money it will be on lot15. I would think anyone who want to buy condo in this part will prefer to buy in DPC.
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Ativo is just an example of similar price range.

If don't talk about Ativo, Pavilion Park Residence BJ is another similar 900-1,000 psf price range.

Pavilion offers partial furnish with aircond, heater and fridge etc.

The finishing is on Par with Lot 15 if I'm not mistaken (basically high spec type)

Their added value features include Free Shuttle Bus to LRT (paid through maintenance fee?) and a dedicated bridge to BJ park

Comparing BJ against SJ. Personally I would say BJ is better and with Pavilion mall and the shop lots (fully controlled by malton/pavillion REIT) being completed simultaneously, you can't deny it wins in terms of both surrounding appeal, (infront of you is a big park wo) living and convenience (behind of you is a big high class mall wo).


Again, Park Residence offers much more in terms of furnishing and on top of that extra added value as mentioned above. Hence, what is the attraction of Lot 15 compared to this?


What do you think?

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Buyers who buy lot15 know exactly what they want.

You need to know what you yourself are looking into.

Good luck mate
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Why these two products are compared, totally two diff locations.
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Sep 4 2018, 12:30 AM)
Ativo is just an example of similar price range.

If don't talk about Ativo, Pavilion Park Residence BJ is another similar 900-1,000 psf price range.

Pavilion offers partial furnish with aircond, heater and fridge etc.

The finishing is on Par with Lot 15 if I'm not mistaken (basically high spec type)

Their added value features include Free Shuttle Bus to LRT (paid through maintenance fee?) and a dedicated bridge to BJ park

Comparing BJ against SJ. Personally I would say BJ is better and with Pavilion mall and the shop lots (fully controlled by malton/pavillion REIT) being completed simultaneously, you can't deny it wins in terms of both surrounding appeal, (infront of you is a big park wo) living and convenience (behind of you is a big high class mall wo).
Again, Park Residence offers much more in terms of furnishing and on top of that extra added value as mentioned above. Hence, what is the attraction of Lot 15 compared to this?
What do you think?
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if you think BJ wins hand down, why bother to critic what LOT 15 is NOT???????? lets the buyers and vested party suffered later and you will have the last laugh?

personally for me, I will never consider BJ, lets along what pavilion mall, connecting to park, shuttle bus services. BJ is never my dream liveable place. I still prefer FEDHWY and its slip roads to major highway.

each to its own. Not everyone studies so much on the built quality, amenities, brand name, class BUT missed out the biggest picture, i.e. LOCATION.
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if you think BJ wins hand down, why bother to critic what LOT 15 is NOT???????? lets the buyers and vested party suffered later and you will have the last laugh?

personally for me, I will never consider BJ, lets along what pavilion mall, connecting to park, shuttle bus services. BJ is never my dream liveable place. I still prefer FEDHWY and its slip roads to major highway.

each to its own. Not everyone studies so much on the built quality, amenities, brand name, class BUT missed out the biggest picture, i.e. LOCATION.
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I did not say BJ wins hands down. Just trying to point out that if a project with similar capacity could provide more, why Lot 15 can't? I have no interest in having any laugh, this is a property talk forum and just so happened I'm trying to buy my own property hence I'm doing research on all these while sharing my thoughts and findings while trying to know even more about property buying behaviors, attributes, value and attractions. I'm not considering either Ativo/Lot 15 or Pavilion BJ, it just so happened I've stumble across these projects and decided to look into them.

To me personally, BJ is better because it is nearer to KL. I've not lived there but by comparing points for points, Pavilion seems to have an edge in terms of appeal and even convenience except for public transportion. You said it yourself, Lot 15 is within close proximity of a TNB station whereas Pavilion is in front of a big park. Even if I pit them both as equal in terms of locality, Pavilion residences seems to win in terms of value cause they are offering more whereas Lot 15 offers the bare minimum facilities, no added value and no furnishing while charging a premium like Pavilion.

Like I said, location wise, I don't see Subang as an attractive place (It is not a bad place but certainly not a premium/prime location worthy). Like it or not the closer you are to KLCC, the more expensive the property is and the further you are from KLCC, the cheaper it gets. The heart of KLCC is currently the most expensive place for property spanning out to the rest of brickfields/pudu/imbi which many places are severely underdeveloped yet they are still charging a premium because of "locality". Opus residence is a great example of underdeveloped area with literally nothing within walking distance but it is very expensive. KL sentral/Damansara Heights/Bangsar will be cheaper than of course the earlier mentioned location but still being one of the most expensive location because of how close it is to KLCC. Section 13/Seputeh/taman desa/bukit jalil etc. which is even further would be cheaper and the further you are the cheaper it gets. By the time you reached Subang, it should be quite cheap already and obviously Klang/Shah Alam is pretty much as cheap as you can get. However, that is not the case for Sime Projects.

While I understand if they want to remain the premium status, charging at a premium rate... but stinge on offerings, that is just not a good deal for property buyers. I'm not saying Sime should charge cheaper, hack I support Sime to maintain their pricing or even try to reduce rebates since Lot 15 is one of their highest spec for service residence project to date but damn, at least do something more to attract buyers or give something back to their residence. If I'm a buyer of Lot 15, I would at least want to tell people "hey, I paid a premium and these are what I'm getting" but base on my research, you don't really have anything to show for except it is near a LRT station and a low end hypermarket Big Aeon. Whereas If I'm a Pavilion residence buyer, I could flaunt that in front of my property is a big premium shopping mall, behind my property is a big public park, a bridge linking them both and look at all the furnishing I got for the price I paid. Not trying to belittle Lot 15 but the only thing I think Lot 15 buyers can show off is "My property is in Subang". Ativo area is not that great but damn the facilities they are offering looks real good... and the smart home system is a great added bonus. Seriously, smart lock, smart home or even other furnishing is not that expensive for developer to throw in when they are buying in bulk... a lot of project is doing it from mid end to premium like pavilion, opus etc. (you know it is expensive but it felt like you are getting something out of the price you've paid) but for Lot 15 premium status felt like you are just paying a premium price rather than getting a premium living.


Btw, are you a Lot 15 buyer? You seems a bit more defensive for this property compared to the other projects that I left my "views" on.

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SDP can price Lot15 because supply and demand... limited supplies in and overwhelming demand in SJ... In SJ, the supplies are even more limited than PJ.

The definition of prime is different from one person to another. You may think BJ is more prime but SDP only needs to capture 361 purchasers. There are literally no new launches in SJ except Grand SS15 (but that's SOHO).

You need to count how much supplies incoming to Bukit Jalil.

But if you buy for own stay... any property is good as long as you like it la... biggrin.gif

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SDP can price Lot15 because supply and demand... limited supplies in and overwhelming demand in SJ... In SJ, the supplies are even more limited than PJ.

The definition of prime is different from one person to another. You may think BJ is more prime but SDP only needs to capture 361 purchasers. There are literally no new launches in SJ except Grand SS15 (but that's SOHO).

You need to count how much supplies incoming to Bukit Jalil.

But if you buy for own stay... any property is good as long as you like it la...  biggrin.gif
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But Lot 15 isn't doing as well as what SDP hoped. I heard last month it is just around 70+% being sold so far after combining with Phase 2 units. That is well below what SDP estimated which is the entire thing to be taken up by June 2018. What I envisage is that SDP might go down to the path of giving a shit ton of rebates to sell off the remaining units like those small medium developers (even big ones like Tropicana is doing that with their metropark), perhaps to meet year end target or to give good news to the board, which ends up defeating it's premium status and also would eventually screw over all the existing buyers. This is their highest spec service resident project and I don't expect them to price it low but come on, no furnishing at all (apart from the promotion kitchen cabinet), facilities are the bare minimum and no external built or added value attachment? Unless that area is super good with a park infront, a link bridge to a premium mall beside and a unhindered & clean surrounding, that they don't need to offer anything else.. otherwise I can't see the value in it...

No new launches but there are a shit ton of land owned by SDP around that area. 2 plots right in front of LRT, 2-3 plots besides Isola, 1 big plot beside UMW, 1 plot on the round about and a few more big plots near the old driver range. I won't call that "limited" and that is just SS16 area.

Bukit Jalil is indeed coming out with quite a few units at the same time, which is mainly because the area is not Malton exclusive unlike Sime which pretty much owns Subang Jaya land.

Not true though, own stay for me is not just location, amnesties and appeal. Value and offerings by the project is very important as well. I can buy multi millions worth of unit but I still want the get the most out of it. If Opus KL only offers the basic stuff with little offerings, I would not want to consider despite the location for the price that they are charging. The overall package is what attracted me when it comes to premium living. I wonder if other buyers never actually thought of all these and only buy property based on Location + Budget.

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Sep 4 2018, 07:33 AM)

To me personally, BJ is better because it is nearer to KL. I've not lived there but by comparing points for points, Pavilion seems to have an edge in terms of appeal and even convenience except for public transportion.

Like I said, location wise, I don't see Subang as an attractive place (It is not a bad place but certainly not a premium/prime location worthy). Like it or not the closer you are to KLCC, the more expensive the property is and the further you are from KLCC, the cheaper it gets. The heart of KLCC is currently the most expensive place for property spanning out to the rest of brickfields/pudu/imbi which many places are severely underdeveloped yet they are still charging a premium because of "locality". Opus residence is a great example of underdeveloped area with literally nothing within walking distance but it is very expensive. KL sentral/Damansara Heights/Bangsar will be cheaper than of course the earlier mentioned location but still being one of the most expensive location because of how close it is to KLCC. Section 13/Seputeh/taman desa/bukit jalil etc. which is even further would be cheaper and the further you are the cheaper it gets. By the time you reached Subang, it should be quite cheap already and obviously Klang/Shah Alam is pretty much as cheap as you can get. However, that is not the case for Sime Projects.

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based on your theory sentul should be twice of subang jaya but in fact is hardly half the price.

Many KL suburbs priced 30-40% below subang struggle to sell while lot15 easily hit 75% sales. you're nearer you are to Kl argument practically can be thrown in the dustbin if you've actually compared prices and not went on like a sore loser.

Anyways seems like you have an ulterior motive against lot15. subang jaya proper has the LOWEST new supply of residences and this is where many areas lose FLAT to subang.
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SDP giving a shit tons of rebates to sell off remaining units.... smile.gif smile.gif

Well we can all dream.
Some of us here have been waiting for donkey years for SDP to do that. We r even prime members of SDP and hardly get anything more that 5%.

70+ percent they are already ok.
They didn't do it for Cantara and The Glades was even worse sales results and they didn't even bother.


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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 4 2018, 10:39 PM)
SDP can price Lot15 because supply and demand... limited supplies in and overwhelming demand in SJ... In SJ, the supplies are even more limited than PJ.

The definition of prime is different from one person to another. You may think BJ is more prime but SDP only needs to capture 361 purchasers. There are literally no new launches in SJ except Grand SS15 (but that's SOHO).

You need to count how much supplies incoming to Bukit Jalil.

But if you buy for own stay... any property is good as long as you like it la...  biggrin.gif
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well said.

I think holypredator misses the bigger picture. LOCATION and SUPPLY but he keeps on barking on premium pricing without premium fittings.

he wants to buy a house that people will sing praise song when ppl visiting him. perhaps each to its own.

truly i passed up all these factors jor. I just want a property in strategic location and connected to at least one light train service.

Holypredator

no. I didnt buy Lot15. I cant ignore the TNB station. Me and SDP no fate. Same with Sunrise, YTL and Tropicana, Pavillion/Malton.

But my search on PJ/Subang property continues. PJ/Subang is still under my search area

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Sep 4 2018, 11:38 PM)
But Lot 15 isn't doing as well as what SDP hoped. I heard last month it is just around 70+% being sold so far after combining with Phase 2 units. That is well below what SDP estimated which is the entire thing to be taken up by June 2018. What I envisage is that SDP might go down to the path of giving a shit ton of rebates to sell off the remaining units like those small medium developers (even big ones like Tropicana is doing that with their metropark), perhaps to meet year end target or to give good news to the board, which ends up defeating it's premium status and also would eventually screw over all the existing buyers. This is their highest spec service resident project and I don't expect them to price it low but come on, no furnishing at all (apart from the promotion kitchen cabinet), facilities are the bare minimum and no external built or added value attachment? Unless that area is super good with a park infront, a link bridge to a premium mall beside and a unhindered & clean surrounding, that they don't need to offer anything else.. otherwise I can't see the value in it...

No new launches but there are a shit ton of land owned by SDP around that area. 2 plots right in front of LRT, 2-3 plots besides Isola, 1 big plot beside UMW, 1 plot on the round about and a few more big plots near the old driver range. I won't call that "limited" and that is just SS16 area.

Bukit Jalil is indeed coming out with quite a few units at the same time, which is mainly because the area is not Malton exclusive unlike Sime which pretty much owns Subang Jaya land.

Not true though, own stay for me is not just location, amnesties and appeal. Value and offerings by the project is very important as well. I can buy multi millions worth of unit but I still want the get the most out of it. If Opus KL only offers the basic stuff with little offerings, I would not want to consider despite the location for the price that they are charging. The overall package is what attracted me when it comes to premium living. I wonder if other buyers never actually thought of all these and only buy property based on Location + Budget.
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your comparison is going no where though comparing with BJ... density, self sustaining location, quality of population and etc alot of factors doesnt really able to compare well with subang prime...... and which SDP projects offering shit ton of rebates? even their ara damansara high-rise not doing very well but i dont see they give shit tonnes of rebate... with 70% sales rate for Lot 15... they most probably already making fat profit already... dont think they are desperate for rebates and discounts... considering the land cost could be quite cheap also...
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your comparison is going no where though comparing with BJ... density, self sustaining location, quality of population and etc alot of factors doesnt really able to compare well with subang prime...... and which SDP projects offering shit ton of rebates? even their ara damansara high-rise not doing very well but i dont see they give shit tonnes of rebate... with 70% sales rate for Lot 15... they most probably already making fat profit already... dont think they are desperate for rebates and discounts... considering the land cost could be quite cheap also...
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Which ara damansara project sdp not doing well???
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Which ara damansara project sdp not doing well???
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cantara tower C
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Need to fill up bumi allocation perhaps?
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Need to fill up bumi allocation perhaps?
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wa... use whole tower to fill up ka... competitors are coming in even if they intend to let it like that and wait for it to fill up... haha
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wa... use whole tower to fill up ka... competitors are coming in even if they intend to let it like that and wait for it to fill up... haha
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U cant apply for release of bumi allocation fully when the building is not vped.

And bcos sdp is a social responsible developer they might not want to apply for release but instead hoping to sell to bumi?
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If not mistaken, there is a plot of land beside Isola belonging to Conlay. That portion got future SDP land somemore.

I think Lot 15 there really no more land unless Mesiniaga redevelop which is unlikely. My only concern is the traffic there is already nightmarish to begin.

Other than that I really like Lot 15 la.. too bad only can go 70% loan
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QUOTE(InvestThing @ Sep 5 2018, 12:08 PM)
If not mistaken, there is a plot of land beside Isola belonging to Conlay. That portion got future SDP land somemore.

I think Lot 15 there really no more land unless Mesiniaga redevelop which is unlikely. My only concern is the traffic there is already nightmarish to begin.

Other than that I really like Lot 15 la.. too bad only can go 70% loan
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connlay one called shrewbury…...what a name...... puke.gif

but holypredator kor said not highend enuf….. tongue.gif

LOT15 all the way to subang parade leh…….SDP's new SJCC.
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 5 2018, 01:23 PM)
connlay one called shrewbury…...what a name...... puke.gif

but holypredator kor said not highend enuf….. tongue.gif

LOT15 all the way to subang parade leh…….SDP's new SJCC.
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Ive visited Lot15, Subang Parkhomes, Subang Avenue, Isola, Subang Soho, Casa Tiara, E-Tiara, Lafitte (lol), Saujana Residency;
so among these, Lot15 is considered high end.

Of course if you compare it to 8 conlay then cannot lah. In Subang vicinity its considered high end la my friend.
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QUOTE(InvestThing @ Sep 5 2018, 01:42 PM)
Ive visited Lot15, Subang Parkhomes, Subang Avenue, Isola, Subang Soho, Casa Tiara, E-Tiara, Lafitte (lol), Saujana Residency;
so among these, Lot15 is considered high end.

Of course if you compare it to 8 conlay then cannot lah. In Subang vicinity its considered high end la my friend.
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am not so hang up with high end low end quality this quality that amenity this amenity that....

you should talk to Holypredator San.

I will opt for Isola. Period. Tak ada cerita jor.

Lafitte???? new wine in old bottle?

Subang Parkhome memang jatuh kaca cermin. BUT don't expect much from Didijaya.
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Based on my own observation, the highest yield for me was Saujana Resi.. that is until Isola came up then my rental went down abit but still positive yield.. highest ever was 12% yield
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Sep 5 2018, 07:03 AM)
based on your theory sentul should be twice of subang jaya but in fact is hardly half the price.

Many KL suburbs priced 30-40% below subang struggle to sell while lot15 easily hit 75% sales. you're nearer you are to Kl argument practically can be thrown in the dustbin if you've actually compared prices and not went on like a sore loser.

Anyways seems like you have an ulterior motive against lot15. subang jaya proper has the LOWEST new supply of residences and this is where many areas lose FLAT to subang.
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Ok you've got a point on Sentul, I did not noticed about that area but bear in mind the distance from sentul to KLCC is not that near. It is >10km which would be in the same range as PJ to KLCC.

My theory is quite reasonable when you look at how the pricing goes (if you don't factor in sentul). From bukit bintang all the way to PJ, the price is on a downwards trend no matter what the condition of the area is (Bare in mind this is a generalisation so take it with a grain of salt). Take for example Continew, walking out from the front door is literally walking to a slump ghetto area but the price is >RM850.... no one in the right mind would buy that but I guess the main appeal is it being near the heart of KL.

http://propcafe.net/continew-jalan-tun-razak-by-ibraco/

Again, I do not have any motive against any project. I am just voicing what I felt about the project and wants to get feedback from it. I've done it for numerous projects on this forum even projects that I am interest to invest on (No project is perfect so each project will definitely have some sort of area to critique on).
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QUOTE(Longshot @ Sep 5 2018, 07:49 AM)
SDP giving a shit tons of rebates to sell off remaining units.... smile.gif smile.gif

Well we can all dream.
Some of us here have been waiting for donkey years for SDP to do that. We r even prime members of SDP and hardly get anything more that 5%.

70+ percent they are already ok.
They didn't do it for Cantara and The Glades was even worse sales results and they didn't even bother.
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Not saying it to be true, just assuming. Hey, Tropicana (Top 10 developer) can do it for paisley so I don't think it is a far fetched for Sime to do it. (They din't take down the raya promo on their Lot 15 site whereas they took down for all other project... you can say it is a mistake but something tells me they are pushing real hard to get the remaining units sold)

Also, you won't know unless you ask. Perhaps you guys who really wants to test this theory out can ask sime few weeks down the road what sort of rebates are they giving. Perhaps even more than the Raya Rebate I bet.


I din't know prime member could get 5%. I thought max was 3% if you have multi millions worth of sime property under your name.

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Sep 5 2018, 09:59 AM)
well said.

I think holypredator misses the bigger picture. LOCATION and SUPPLY but he keeps on barking on premium pricing without premium fittings.

he wants to buy a house that people will sing praise song when ppl visiting him. perhaps each to its own.

truly i passed up all these factors jor. I just want a property in strategic location and connected to at least one light train service.

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no. I didnt buy Lot15. I cant ignore the TNB station. Me and SDP no fate. Same with Sunrise, YTL and Tropicana, Pavillion/Malton.

But my search on PJ/Subang property continues. PJ/Subang is still under my search area
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Mind your language... whose barking ? vmad.gif

I'm not saying Lot 15 premium pricing is without premium fittings. I've checked on their spec and they are giving quite high end stuff like Engineered hardwood and TOTO toilet fittings. But that is just chicken feet cause many projects like pavilion and other similar level pricing also have almost similar fittings but with even more furnishing and added value stuff. I'm just saying points for points, Lot 15 isn't that great of a deal compared to many other projects out there (just want to point it out) and I believe Sime could have done more. If you want to argue that it is because of it being in Subang Jaya then I rest my case.

You yourself constantly talking about the TNB... if that is a factor to you, what makes you think others don't? I've said that TNB is not a big deal but if you compare Pavilion BJ facing the park against a TNB... which is better?

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Sep 5 2018, 10:29 PM)
Not saying it to be true, just assuming. Hey, Tropicana (Top 10 developer) can do it for paisley so I don't think it is a far fetched for Sime to do it. (They din't take down the raya promo on their Lot 15 site whereas they took down for all other project... you can say it is a mistake but something tells me they are pushing real hard to get the remaining units sold)

Also, you won't know unless you ask. Perhaps you guys who really wants to test this theory out can ask sime few weeks down the road what sort of rebates are they giving. Perhaps even more than the Raya Rebate I bet.
I din't know prime member could get 5%. I thought max was 3% if you have multi millions worth of sime property under your name.
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I don't have to call SA or SDP.
I call Bro BRE smile.gif

Bro,
I don't think u r getting ppl's point here or accept their explanation.
NVM, it's okay.


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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Sep 5 2018, 10:32 AM)
your comparison is going no where though comparing with BJ... density, self sustaining location, quality of population and etc alot of factors doesnt really able to compare well with subang prime...... and which SDP projects offering shit ton of rebates? even their ara damansara high-rise not doing very well but i dont see they give shit tonnes of rebate... with 70% sales rate for Lot 15... they most probably already making fat profit already... dont think they are desperate for rebates and discounts... considering the land cost could be quite cheap also...
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Just comparing what other projects within the same range can offer that's all. Location wise is subjective and personally to me Lot 15 isn't the "best" or better with TNB infront, low cost apartment beside and 2 low end hypermarket/mall within walking distance.

I'm not confirming SDP project offering shit ton of rebates just assuming that they might do it to clear the remaining units like what Tropicana is doing. You can try to call them up on December and see if they are giving rebates more than their special raya promotion or not if you really want to know.

70% sales rate they are making fat profit is obvious with the land they bought dirt cheap but bear in mind their goal was 100% before June 2018 as published all so confidently. Pavilion BJ is doing better than with almost all units sold out?
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This is classic case of analysis paralysis.
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QUOTE(Longshot @ Sep 5 2018, 10:39 PM)
I don't have to call SA or SDP.
I call Bro BRE smile.gif

Bro,
I don't think u r getting ppl's point here or accept their explanation.
NVM, it's okay.
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Who is BRE?

The only explanation I got was it being in "subang jaya". I'm not trying to convince people anything just pointing out that Sime could have done more. I think you would have agreed if you did more research on what other project within similar capacity are offering.
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QUOTE(InvestThing @ Sep 5 2018, 12:08 PM)
If not mistaken, there is a plot of land beside Isola belonging to Conlay. That portion got future SDP land somemore.

I think Lot 15 there really no more land unless Mesiniaga redevelop which is unlikely. My only concern is the traffic there is already nightmarish to begin.

Other than that I really like Lot 15 la.. too bad only can go 70% loan
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Again, who says no more land? Infront of LRT got 2 plot of land in that area. If you want to talk about SS16, as mentioned before, there is a big plot of land beside UMW, a plot next to Isola, a few plot near the driving range and a plot at the roundabout.
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Sep 5 2018, 10:26 PM)
Ok you've got a point on Sentul, I did not noticed about that area but bear in mind the distance from sentul to KLCC is not that near. It is >10km which would be in the same range as PJ to KLCC.

My theory is quite reasonable when you look at how the pricing goes (if you don't factor in sentul).  From bukit bintang all the way to PJ, the price is on a downwards trend no matter what the condition of the area is (Bare in mind this is a generalisation so take it with a grain of salt).  Take for example Continew, walking out from the front door is literally walking to a slump ghetto area but the price is >RM850.... no one in the right mind would buy that but I guess the main appeal is it being near the heart of KL.

http://propcafe.net/continew-jalan-tun-razak-by-ibraco/

Again, I do not have any motive against any project. I am just voicing what I felt about the project and wants to get feedback from it. I've done it for numerous projects on this forum even projects that I am interest to invest on (No project is perfect so each project will definitely have some sort of area to critique on).
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Sentul is about 5km away from KLCC la... Prop investment not all about just using ruler and measure the distance from KLCC on the map la... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(gks @ Sep 5 2018, 10:47 PM)
Sentul is about 5km away from KLCC la... Prop investment not all about just using ruler and measure the distance from KLCC on the map la...  sweat.gif
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From balai polis sentul already 5.5km that is the edge of sentul west. Come one, there is no new project there except Court 28 and that shit is not cheap for around RM700+ psf net average for its type of serviced apartment.

https://www.propsocial.my/classified/941030...by-gooddeals888

anyway the point is, I guess sentul is an exception to the theory based on its history

http://propertyinsight.com.my/area-focus/u...auty-of-sentul/
https://www.nst.com.my/property/2017/06/246...ransform-sentul

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Sep 5 2018, 08:26 AM)
Ok you've got a point on Sentul, I did not noticed about that area but bear in mind the distance from sentul to KLCC is not that near. It is >10km which would be in the same range as PJ to KLCC.

My theory is quite reasonable when you look at how the pricing goes (if you don't factor in sentul).  From bukit bintang all the way to PJ, the price is on a downwards trend no matter what the condition of the area is (Bare in mind this is a generalisation so take it with a grain of salt).  Take for example Continew, walking out from the front door is literally walking to a slump ghetto area but the price is >RM850.... no one in the right mind would buy that but I guess the main appeal is it being near the heart of KL.

http://propcafe.net/continew-jalan-tun-razak-by-ibraco/

Again, I do not have any motive against any project. I am just voicing what I felt about the project and wants to get feedback from it. I've done it for numerous projects on this forum even projects that I am interest to invest on (No project is perfect so each project will definitely have some sort of area to critique on).
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your theory is again thrown in the dustbin when you add chow kit keramat kampung baru pudu chansowlin salak ayer panas setapak and many other areas in the equation. Sentul is indeed below 6km from klcc la and many of the areas above.

Btw which part of PJ is below 10km to klcc or same distance as sentul???

I have not even gone into how PJ that's much further than all the areas above are priced more (actually MUCH MORE) than it.
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Sep 5 2018, 10:46 PM)
Again, who says no more land? Infront of LRT got 2 plot of land in that area. If you want to talk about SS16, as mentioned before, there is a big plot of land beside UMW, a plot next to Isola, a few plot near the driving range and a plot at the roundabout.
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Hence the term 'if not mistaken'

Anyway I personally favor Subang & Sunway therefore I will come off as biased. To each their own.
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Sep 5 2018, 10:41 PM)
Just comparing what other projects within the same range can offer that's all. Location wise is subjective and personally to me Lot 15 isn't the "best" or better with TNB infront, low cost apartment beside and 2 low end hypermarket/mall within walking distance.

I'm not confirming SDP project offering shit ton of rebates just assuming that they might do it to clear the remaining units like what Tropicana is doing. You can try to call them up on December and see if they are giving rebates more than their special raya promotion or not if you really want to know.

70% sales rate they are making fat profit is obvious with the land they bought dirt cheap but bear in mind their goal was 100% before June 2018 as published all so confidently. Pavilion BJ is doing better than with almost all units sold out?
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so far never encounter any project that SDP will offer additional discount... they may not achieve 100% but their share price still grow... investors confident still remain with them... they have no reason to act desperately bcuz of that statement...

different location.... the location will determine the price and furnishing of the condo... bukit jalil not self sustaining and doesnt seems to be self sustaining anytime soon with more residential being build than office towers... while subang jaya itself offering jobs and plenty of offices surrounding... a few of my frens also working in MNCs around subang area....

its definitely not the best... but the location overall still consider worth the premium... the 75% sales rate already shown it... and the density of condos around SJ still way lower than BJ...

i foresee u can buy BJ for own stay... but dont expect alot upward appreciation in the value especially nearby condos all alot of desperate flippers upon VP... dont think the park 2 sales are doing well also... pavilion BJ will never be the same as pavilion KL...
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Sep 5 2018, 11:00 PM)
From balai polis sentul already 5.5km that is the edge of sentul west. Come one, there is no new project there except Court 28 and that shit is not cheap for around RM700+ psf net average for its type of serviced apartment.

https://www.propsocial.my/classified/941030...by-gooddeals888

anyway the point is, I guess sentul is an exception to the theory based on its history

http://propertyinsight.com.my/area-focus/u...auty-of-sentul/
https://www.nst.com.my/property/2017/06/246...ransform-sentul
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From your posting, I gauge you do your homework by reading review or desktop research than go out and explore it yourself.
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Sep 6 2018, 07:39 AM)
your theory is again thrown in the dustbin when you add chow kit keramat kampung baru pudu chansowlin salak ayer panas setapak and many other areas in the equation. Sentul is indeed below 6km from klcc la and many of the areas above.

Btw which part of PJ is below 10km to klcc or same distance as sentul???

I have not even gone into how PJ that's much further than all the areas above are priced more (actually MUCH MORE) than it.
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Are you sure you've done your research cause the places you've listed are pretty much surrounding KLCC and I've look at quite a few of them because I wanted to buy around there.

Example of projects

The Colony, Chow Kit - 705sqf - from RM1,050,000 (>RM1,500 psf)
Pudu - Continew (as mentioned earlier countless time, it is located in front of a ghetto looking slump but price ... >RM850 psf)..... Don't forget bukit bintang city centre project which is built on Pudu jail, that shit is >RM1,000 psf

The list goes on and on.... so "when I add" those... it just further strengthen my points

Sentul west is of course near, from the middle it is >10km and like I said, Sentul is due to historical reasons as per the articles I pasted earlier.
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QUOTE(InvestThing @ Sep 6 2018, 08:58 AM)
Hence the term 'if not mistaken'

Anyway I personally favor Subang & Sunway therefore I will come off as biased. To each their own.
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So now you know there are a lot of land to be developed @ SS16 lo?
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From your posting, I gauge you do your homework by reading review or desktop research than go out and explore it yourself.
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Obviously. I'm not a full time property investor, I can't be going around exploring properties physically. I can only depend on reviews from the net. However, I did went to sites and galleries for quite a few properties and Lot 15 was surprisingly one of them when I dropped by subang.

I think many people mistaken my argument. I'm not trying to say Subang Jaya is bad or anything (not the best choice for me at least). What I am trying to say is Lot 15 is severely overpriced with little to offer. I'm not trying to prove Bukit Jalil or Damansara Avenue is more superior in terms of locality (If anything I would say all are pretty much equal to me) Many people still can't seem to defend that point apart from saying it is in Subang. CASA TIARA also in Subang ... right next to Lot 15 some more shakehead.gif

Let me put it this way, Lot 15 does not come with any furnishing while it is priced at RM900-1000 psf (net after rebate). Many high end, even as far as it being branded "Luxury" project that is >RM1,000 psf actually comes fully fitted or the very least partially fitted. Pavilion Hilltop @ Mont Kiara for example is priced at RM1000+ psf average net. However it is fully fitted with quality branded

: Air Conditioning
: Refridgerator
: Hot Water System
: Built in Kitchen cabinet (top & bottom)
: Hood & Hob
: Microwave Oven
: Island Top dry & wet kitchen


Try adding all those up and you are pretty much seeing Lot 15's value. Basically, Lot 15 is equivalent to many luxury project when you take all this into factor (No furnishing, no added value and little facility). This is also considering that Lot 15 rebates are limited time only. The RM10k + 1% is up till 1 sept 2018, if Sime kept their word that it is a limited time promotion, the project is actually more toward RM950 - RM1000+ price range (I saw Sime just took off those rebates just now and it seems that they are giving only the 6% rebate + kitchen cabinet as an ongoing promotion on their site, wonder if they really did took off those rebates cause ads still showing RM10k + 7%).

In Summary, if you work it backwards and include all the other stuff into your pricing factor, Lot 15 is the same range as many "luxury" serviced apartment at prime areas excl KLCC area.

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I do not think anyone misunderstanding your arguement. We just point out u miss a bigger picture.

Anyway I rest my case.

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