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 Subaru Legacy, Is it worth it compared to Conti?

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TSxuzen
post Jun 2 2014, 11:55 AM, updated 11y ago

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Hello,

I am a total noob to this forum.

Here goes my query to all the car enthusiast here. I am ready to upgrade to D-segment by next year June-15, latest. Of course the usual suspects spring to my mind: Camry, Teana and Accord. I have trawling around the internet for a while, reading up on the D-segments' offering in Malaysian market.

However, something caught my mind. Subaru Legacy. Read many good reviews about it but mainly from Ang-mohs or mat-salleh forums. So my question is, is this car so good? For RM 250K price tag, is it better to go Conti?

My requirement:

I) Driving pleasure. It will be more like my weekend car or pleasure car, as my usual day to day wheel will still be my eight year old MYVI.

II) Resale value is not important as I will drive it like for the next 10 or 12 years. (I rarely change car)

III) Spare part easy to get (no need to wait months and months to order in) and will not cost me a bomb.

IV) Fuel consumption reasonable within class expectation.

V) Something that will not be too flashy to potential robber like a Beemer or a Merz.

Thank you all for your input.

Xuzen




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post Jun 2 2014, 12:08 PM

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Your Requirements

II) Resale value is not important as I will drive it like for the next 10 or 12 years. (I rarely change car)

a. Camry - Good resale value
b. Accord - Good resale value
c. Teana - 2nd car dealer dont even wants it if u selling it after 3months of usage.
d. Subaru - worst than teana

III) Spare part easy to get (no need to wait months and months to order in) and will not cost me a bomb.
a. Camry - Available in massive & easily to find.
b. Accord - Available in massive & easily to find.
c. Teana - Available in massive & easily to find.
d. Subaru - Need to wait for import.

IV) Fuel consumption reasonable within class expectation.
All models are very similar. so no issue here.

V) Something that will not be too flashy to potential robber like a Beemer or a Merz.
Teana & legacy fits in here.

So based of above, Teana is your best choice.
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post Jun 2 2014, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(SWIZZ @ Jun 2 2014, 12:08 PM)
Your Requirements

II) Resale value is not important as I will drive it like for the next 10 or 12 years. (I rarely change car)

a. Camry - Good resale value
b. Accord - Good resale value
c. Teana - 2nd car dealer dont even wants it if u selling it after 3months of usage.
d. Subaru - worst than teana

III) Spare part easy to get (no need to wait months and months to order in) and will not cost me a bomb.
a. Camry - Available in massive & easily to find.
b. Accord - Available in massive & easily to find.
c. Teana - Available in massive & easily to find.
d. Subaru - Need to wait for import.

IV) Fuel consumption reasonable within class expectation.
All models are very similar. so no issue here.

V) Something that will not be too flashy to potential robber like a Beemer or a Merz.
Teana & legacy fits in here.

So based of above, Teana is your best choice.
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Good analysis. Robbber dun want car which cannot sell. Open door also nobody wants to steal the Teana!!! laugh.gif
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post Jun 2 2014, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 2 2014, 11:55 AM)
Hello,

I am a total noob to this forum.

Here goes my query to all the car enthusiast here. I am ready to upgrade to D-segment by next year June-15, latest. Of course the usual suspects spring to my mind: Camry, Teana and Accord. I have trawling around the internet for a while, reading up on the D-segments' offering in Malaysian market.

However, something caught my mind. Subaru Legacy. Read many good reviews about it but mainly from Ang-mohs or mat-salleh forums. So my question is, is this car so good? For RM 250K price tag, is it better to go Conti?

My requirement:

I) Driving pleasure. It will be more like my weekend car or pleasure car, as my usual day to day wheel will still be my eight year old MYVI.

II) Resale value is not important as I will drive it like for the next 10 or 12 years. (I rarely change car)

III) Spare part easy to get (no need to wait months and months to order in) and will not cost me a bomb.

IV) Fuel consumption reasonable within class expectation.

V) Something that will not be too flashy to potential robber like a Beemer or a Merz.

Thank you all for your input.

Xuzen
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bro if you can persuade the sales dude enough, you could probably get it ~210-220k or even less wink.gif

from my VERY limited test driving:
1) most pleasurable ride lol, 400nm torque with CVT that OBEYS your down shift allowing red lines biggrin.gif

3) from my limited knowledge, hard. may want to check out the subaru car club threads
sleepwalker comment?

4) if you're gonna trash the >300hp turbo car around, being a heavy/big d segment, you really will have to forget about having good FC unless you're cruising at optimal/slow high way cruising speed.

5) it's still a d segment, whether it is flashy or not to a robber, hard to say. an expensive car is still an expensive car.

you may have to take note that maintenance won't be cheap. subaru SC uses motul lubricants and they will surely further mark up the price. and that's not taking into account wear and tear replacements.
more so if it's an underutilized weekend car where you'll get wasted km's until it's time to service (10k km/6 months, my sorta weekend car is at 6500km only and it's 1 month left till service sweat.gif)
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post Jun 2 2014, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Jun 2 2014, 12:10 PM)
Good analysis. Robbber dun want car which cannot sell. Open door also nobody wants to steal the Teana!!! laugh.gif
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Dont be too sure. it just that teana is the one of lowest theft risk among the selection above.
Sometimes crook steals the car just to commit crimes and no intention of selling it.
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post Jun 2 2014, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(SWIZZ @ Jun 2 2014, 12:08 PM)
Your Requirements

So based of above, Teana is your best choice.
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did you deliberately left out 1)?

because i test driven the 2.5l V6 teana, it was AWESOME, everything was smooth.
and then i test drive the legacy and the teana felt like shit laugh.gif

and the new teana will no longer be a 6pot... supposedly better FC/performance/torque etc compared to the v6, but hey, that's the only charm teana had and it's no longer there.
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post Jun 2 2014, 12:18 PM

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If already can afford RM250K car, actually for myself i would rather top up another 30k (total budget RM280K) and go for current Audi A6 hybrid.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 2 2014, 12:15 PM)
did you deliberately left out 1)?

because i test driven the 2.5l V6 teana, it was AWESOME, everything was smooth.
and then i test drive the legacy and the teana felt like shit laugh.gif

and the new teana will no longer be a 6pot... supposedly better FC/performance/torque etc compared to the v6, but hey, that's the only charm teana had and it's no longer there.
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based on his requirement ma, for maintenance bills, teana does better than legacy ma. he didnt mentioned anything abt preference on car performance or comfort also.
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post Jun 2 2014, 12:22 PM

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post Jun 2 2014, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 2 2014, 11:55 AM)
Hello,

I am a total noob to this forum.

Here goes my query to all the car enthusiast here. I am ready to upgrade to D-segment by next year June-15, latest. Of course the usual suspects spring to my mind: Camry, Teana and Accord. I have trawling around the internet for a while, reading up on the D-segments' offering in Malaysian market.

However, something caught my mind. Subaru Legacy. Read many good reviews about it but mainly from Ang-mohs or mat-salleh forums. So my question is, is this car so good? For RM 250K price tag, is it better to go Conti?

My requirement:

I) Driving pleasure. It will be more like my weekend car or pleasure car, as my usual day to day wheel will still be my eight year old MYVI.

II) Resale value is not important as I will drive it like for the next 10 or 12 years. (I rarely change car)

III) Spare part easy to get (no need to wait months and months to order in) and will not cost me a bomb.

IV) Fuel consumption reasonable within class expectation.

V) Something that will not be too flashy to potential robber like a Beemer or a Merz.

Thank you all for your input.

Xuzen
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if weekend car, and u can jaga well, get one u will enjoy. i dunno if many ppl buy a d segment just for weekend car tho. usually is sportier drive. if u rly want a legacy u shud check out the local owner car club and get their feedback on ur idea la.
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post Jun 2 2014, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(SWIZZ @ Jun 2 2014, 12:20 PM)
based on his requirement ma, for maintenance bills, teana does better than legacy ma. he didnt mentioned anything abt preference on car performance or comfort also.
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My requirement:

I) Driving pleasure. It will be more like my weekend car or pleasure car, as my usual day to day wheel will still be my eight year old MYVI.
although to be fair, the teana was pretty pleasurable with the v6, and the nvh is definitely nissan's strong point.

so long he never test drive a legacy, teana will be a good choice smile.gif
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post Jun 2 2014, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jun 2 2014, 12:13 PM)
3) from my limited knowledge, hard. may want to check out the subaru car club threads
sleepwalker comment?


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Subaru spare parts in Malaysia? What's that? tongue.gif

At least for the Impreza WRX/STi there are numbers from the grey market that makes up a little demand for spares. Of course, XV numbers will also generate spares but that is all new spare parts. Legacy would almost have no demand for spares in Malaysia as there's hardly any on the road. Singapore might have.



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Which Legacy are you looking at? Grey Import models or local MI model? Local MI model is still the older version of the current model that is using the old EJ25 engine and not the new FB25.

Do keep in mind that the Legacy 2.5GT engine is not tuned like the ones in the Impreza WRX STi, so don't expect it to fly like one.

Also the 6th generation Legacy is suppose to be out this year or next as the current model is 5 years old.

This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Jun 2 2014, 02:49 PM
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post Jun 2 2014, 04:17 PM

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Very hard to see this car on the road. I only saw twice, and both are lady drivers.
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post Jun 2 2014, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(SWIZZ @ Jun 2 2014, 12:18 PM)
If already can afford RM250K car, actually for myself i would rather top up another 30k (total budget RM280K) and go for current Audi A6 hybrid.
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a6 hybrid could be own at this price still?
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post Jun 2 2014, 09:14 PM

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Thanks for all the reply so far. I am still digesting them.

Looks like Teana is a good alternative and I will keep her in my radar. I think the price is a good pull factor for me.

I need to add something, speed is not a must have for me, simply because in Malaysia, our highway speed limit is only 110kmh. So to avoid traffic fine, it is no point driving fast or having a fast car.

But I rank driving pleasure and road handling very highly.

I checked out the new Mazda6 out, between the new mazda6, new Teana & Legacy, which one will give the best road handling? Legacy?

Seriously, Legacy price is a huge turn off for me.

@Vey99, you think I would be better to get a real sport car as my weekend car? WRX STI? sweat.gif


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This post has been edited by xuzen: Jun 2 2014, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Jun 2 2014, 02:48 PM)
Subaru spare parts in Malaysia? What's that?  tongue.gif
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aiks that bad sweat.gif
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 2 2014, 09:14 PM)
I need to add something, speed is not a must have for me, simply because in Malaysia, our highway speed limit is only 110kmh. So to avoid traffic fine, it is no point driving fast or having a fast car.

But I rank driving pleasure and road handling very highly.

I checked out the new Mazda6 out, between the new mazda6, new Teana & Legacy, which one will give the best road handling? Legacy?
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no comment on the mazda 6, however between teana and legacy, i'd rate the legacy much higher in terms of handling and driving pleasure.

speed aside, the teana is a tad bit boring/numbing steering feel and it is understandably so because nissan is focusing on comfort/luxurious feel within the cabin. legacy is a ways behind the teana (well, sleepwalker mentioned it's a very old model after all)

if anything, may consider waiting for the newer legacy to arrive malaysia, and give the new teana (non v6) and the old teana a try too, not forgetting a try on the mazda6 as well.

when driving pleasure is a top priority to you, my best advise is that you yourself test drive and decide smile.gif

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just saw your edit:
actually yes, if you're mainly wanting a weekend ride, an actual sports sedan (still able to carry family etc for long distance and having huge luggage space! biggrin.gif) like a WRX STI, or an evolution X would fit PERFECTLY in your need wink.gif

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Jun 2 2014, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(kob3bryant @ Jun 2 2014, 08:42 PM)
a6 hybrid could be own at this price still?
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Nope

mudah i see last few months going for 330k
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jun 2 2014, 09:14 PM)
Thanks for all the reply so far. I am still digesting them.

Looks like Teana is a good alternative and I will keep her in my radar. I think the price is a good pull factor for me.

I need to add something, speed is not a must have for me, simply because in Malaysia, our highway speed limit is only 110kmh. So to avoid traffic fine, it is no point driving fast or having a fast car.

But I rank driving pleasure and road handling very highly.

I checked out the new Mazda6 out, between the new mazda6, new Teana & Legacy, which one will give the best road handling? Legacy?

Seriously, Legacy price is a huge turn off for me.

@Vey99, you think I would be better to get a real sport car as my weekend car? WRX STI?  sweat.gif
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Actually Malaysia have a lot of avenue to enjoy performance car one
Do trackday(Sepang or MIMC),touge session are some of the best way to enjoy performance car smile.gif
If you intend to buy a weekend car,buy something that is sporty & impractical(Think Lotus,Honda S2000 etc etc)

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A weekend car should be fun/frivolous to drive and not a boring practical D-segment car like those mentioned. However since you asked, what about a Passat CC? Or the CC R line series?





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