I had been offered with several position of engineer posts, however, their starting paid are slightly lower then my expectation rate, One is in Melaka, starting paid is RM2k, another in Johor also Rm2k, and the third one is slightly higher, located at johor also, for RM2.2k.

However for these three company, 6 month probation period then onli will increase salary (10%), meanwhile, during the probation period, cant enjoy any allowance claim, OT can, but from the range of RM5/hr - RM40/4hr.

Here are my questions, because during talking with HR ppls, they keep emphasizing that the salry rate they offered is quite high since I am a fresh graduate, and they even said that some fresh graduate only able to get RM1.8k for their starting paid, so I should be grateful that i got RM2k for starting. I was wondering since I had done sum research and found out that for fresh grad (2nd upper), normally salary range should be RM2.2k - RM2.5k, did "market price" change so fast ?

And may i know is it every company got their own policy on salary for fresh graduate ? cos when i try to negotiate with them regard the salary (since if i work there, i need to rent house,extra misc fee will included), they keep mentioned that is their company policy. I remember clearly that i stated my salary is more then they offered, if got company policy, then y they still call me ? try to ask for discount from me ?

Now i was in chaos on whether should I accept those offer or not, cos the job that i most interested on (penang,kl) still havnt go through the interview, I afraid that once i went through the interview, if they dun wan hire me, end up that either place (KL,JB,melaka,penang) cant find job at all. If want to postponed to accept their offer, should I tell them that i need to think abt it until end of month ? cos they keep urge me to make decision, stated that they need manpower and want me to give response in at least one week time.

Is it I demand for too much or are they trying to cheat us fresh graduate, since we dunno the actual market trend ?

Well nowadays the starting salary is not that good for fresh grad but like what you say if you don't take this offer and did not get the next offer you will be jobless at that time

yeah... u should be grateful to get first time job of salary 2k...
mine about 4 years agor was only 1.55k...
i'm engineering basic also and not complaining...
just think of other that jobless rite now...

wat lar u.. u dun say which field u r in... or mayb i miss it?

If you can get a better offer elsewhere, go ahead... what's stopping you? You don't need to take an offer that you don't like.

May I know what research you have done to find out the market rate for second upper class graduate? If you asked around, you would find out that different companies will have different policy and different pay scale. It is up to the individual company to decide how much they want to give you.

And how come you have so many offers at hand when you have not attended some of the interviews yet? Personally, I think it is decent enough for a fresh grad, but you are most welcome to wait for other offers (or risk being jobless and losing RM 2k X number of months jobless + no gurantee the offer you may get will be how good) if you are not happy with what you are offered

that y i need to ask that whether it is a trend that the starting paid is in this range, if yes, then i will put them in my consideration list, else I will straight away kick them out from my list, cos from my point of view, if a company that unwilling to treasure the worker, unwilling to pay the reasonable amount for hiring talented person to help them earn money, i doubt that there will have more oppurtunity for me in that company.

4yr ago, living expense are still not as higher as nowadays, if want to compare like your way of thinking, then I should be grateful to accept a job at RM1k, becos this salry is "damn high" during my dad times .

what companies offer you a job already? i know in penang, engineers can get more than that...

If you considering Electronic Engineer then Penang is the best place. Alot of MNC Electronics company here and pay is quite attractive. Range about 2.4k-2.8k. Some of them even give relocation fees... help you settle down.

Emm, most application that i applied are mostly toward testing, validation ,design and R & D, and I am from pure electronic background, not EE.

research that i had done ? Internet, forum, fren, uni-mates, lecturer, job agency, is it enough ? did i miss out any other source ?

Emm, ok, i had applied most of these job in one month ago, and recently most of them had schedule interviews for me, i had attend sum of the interview before(JB,melaka), and the next few one is schedule on next week (Penang,KL), cos I didn't expect they are eagerly want to confirm with me in such a short time,

The price offered depends on the location, experience and job responsibility.
You are offered 2.2k, which I think it's good (you don't expect to save much a month for a start), you may start from there.

Second class upper: 2.5 to 2.6k

First class: 2.8k to 2.9k

Intel pays RM 500 for permanent and RM 3000 for GT as relocation benefit.

Privacy issues, cant disclosed more about the info.

This is what I plan initially, however, since my relative are located mostly in melaka, johor, my parents keep urge me to go for there since they will be more relieved their worries. However, after knowing that those company offer, i was start to think go Penang and try luck.

If you are applying from online source/agent, your price MIGHT be marked down a little.

2.5k is the average for MNC in Penang.

And you think you're a talented person?

... (the emoticon is for you BTW)

Sure GT gets 3k relo?

what is GT btw?

I'm sure he is or he wouldn't have so many offers, rite?

Anyway, "market rate" is not quite the same between various parts of Malaysia. To some parts, 2k is low whereas other parts it may be high. IMO, 2k is probably considered to be good in KL for a fresh graduate but considered not good when compared to Penang.

So if your preference is purely pay and nothing else, you should probably move to Penang. Since there are several potential interviews, I'm pretty sure that talented people such as yourself will definitely breeze through it and it is probably not a very bad idea to turn down the offers that you have now. I doubt the companies offering you 2k will give you 2.5-3k even if you try to negotiate with them.

it's good to hear that you have been offered with jobs to choose. i shld said: "congrat!" but ur attitude seam to worry me (more if i were ur employer to be)

yes most company (especailly mnc) will have thier policy on salary offer. of course, in ur (and most fresh grad) case, urs will be at lower end of range, and it's mostly the entry level/grade.

u would also wanted to consider the job nature, what it's job desc, and more, not only the salary. ur targeted field like testing is quite common nowaday in penang (coz lots of mnc hav it). but there is 2 majority. one direct support on manufacturing, one is on development. both will have thier own benefit if u r in. validation ,design and R & D (R&D term is actually a bit too wide to be defined) will be straight forward, but will mostly limit ur future advancement.

One bird in hand is better then 2 birds in bush, enough said.

Young people should seek for experience, once you got your quality and experience, then only you climb higher.

RM2k? I think it is reasonable enough, but it is up to you to decide. 10% increment or not i think it is mostly based on your supervisor appraiser letter, if you boss think you are good, you will get more then 10%.

It can be considered 3 birds in hand coz he is talented. Talented people will never have trouble finding jobs and don't need to comply with market rates. My company for example, want to find talented people also so difficult