I had been offered with several position of engineer posts, however, their starting paid are slightly lower then my expectation rate, One is in Melaka, starting paid is RM2k, another in Johor also Rm2k, and the third one is slightly higher, located at johor also, for RM2.2k.

However for these three company, 6 month probation period then onli will increase salary (10%), meanwhile, during the probation period, cant enjoy any allowance claim, OT can, but from the range of RM5/hr - RM40/4hr.

Here are my questions, because during talking with HR ppls, they keep emphasizing that the salry rate they offered is quite high since I am a fresh graduate, and they even said that some fresh graduate only able to get RM1.8k for their starting paid, so I should be grateful that i got RM2k for starting. I was wondering since I had done sum research and found out that for fresh grad (2nd upper), normally salary range should be RM2.2k - RM2.5k, did "market price" change so fast ?

And may i know is it every company got their own policy on salary for fresh graduate ? cos when i try to negotiate with them regard the salary (since if i work there, i need to rent house,extra misc fee will included), they keep mentioned that is their company policy. I remember clearly that i stated my salary is more then they offered, if got company policy, then y they still call me ? try to ask for discount from me ?

Now i was in chaos on whether should I accept those offer or not, cos the job that i most interested on (penang,kl) still havnt go through the interview, I afraid that once i went through the interview, if they dun wan hire me, end up that either place (KL,JB,melaka,penang) cant find job at all. If want to postponed to accept their offer, should I tell them that i need to think abt it until end of month ? cos they keep urge me to make decision, stated that they need manpower and want me to give response in at least one week time.

Is it I demand for too much or are they trying to cheat us fresh graduate, since we dunno the actual market trend ?

that y i need to ask that whether it is a trend that the starting paid is in this range, if yes, then i will put them in my consideration list, else I will straight away kick them out from my list, cos from my point of view, if a company that unwilling to treasure the worker, unwilling to pay the reasonable amount for hiring talented person to help them earn money, i doubt that there will have more oppurtunity for me in that company.

4yr ago, living expense are still not as higher as nowadays, if want to compare like your way of thinking, then I should be grateful to accept a job at RM1k, becos this salry is "damn high" during my dad times .

Emm, most application that i applied are mostly toward testing, validation ,design and R & D, and I am from pure electronic background, not EE.

research that i had done ? Internet, forum, fren, uni-mates, lecturer, job agency, is it enough ? did i miss out any other source ?

Emm, ok, i had applied most of these job in one month ago, and recently most of them had schedule interviews for me, i had attend sum of the interview before(JB,melaka), and the next few one is schedule on next week (Penang,KL), cos I didn't expect they are eagerly want to confirm with me in such a short time,

Privacy issues, cant disclosed more about the info.

This is what I plan initially, however, since my relative are located mostly in melaka, johor, my parents keep urge me to go for there since they will be more relieved their worries. However, after knowing that those company offer, i was start to think go Penang and try luck.

is quite a big surprise that my thread got so many reply in such a short time. First to all, I should apologies to those that think that my altitude got problem on search job (i assume that ppls think that I'm arrogant and picky on job, money minded, rite ?).Is my bad that I didn't stated clear about the scenario and the job offered.

1st case, The melaka company (company M), I got a fren's fren (called it Mr. A) work in there, Mr. A also a fresh graduate, however, he had work in another company for 2 month then only join the company M, and they offered him a salary of RM2.4k with OT allowance of RM50/3hr. The position he work is non-related to technical (related to project management,process,dealing with customer,etc). However for the position that I being offered is 80% technical (as told from the interviewer), but the salary I being offered are merely RM2k. So for sure, not matter how your own mentality are, once you know that there got another ppl in similar situation with you, however the salary being offered are different, what will you think about it ?

2nd case, come to another case of RM2k in johor, that company is offered me as a test Engineer, that one no any allowance can be claim except for OT, however the rate is RM5/hr. And the job scope seem scary, cos it will giving me an individual project to go on, I need to be on my own and settle everything by myself, no asistance will be given, and the project scope seem impossible for a freshbie to handle (cant disclose much, cos ppls will be easy to guess on which company is it), so in my mind, i was thinking, giving me a freshbie on such a big project, either they are trust on my skill on handling, or they are trying to squeeze as mush as possible for me, use me as a slave untill i exhaust --> project succes = they earn it, cos hiring a cheap labour for hard task ; project fail = they didn't lost at all, cos the $$$ they paid is cheap, can easily get another one to continue it. Ppl might think that, since a project being given to you ,you should be grateful on it, you can learn a lot, y you still picky on it ? the problem now is the altitude of the manager, keep emphasize on I need to be alone on dealing with all the problem no asist will be given, if you were me, don't you feel sumthing fishy ?

3rd case, the 2.2k post in johor, ok, this one so far i can said that is qutie reasonable, R & D Engineer, no allowance except OT (RM25/3hr). But problem is the job scope, even is R & D, but I need to handling 50% technical and 50% for non technical, such as deal with customer, operator, production line, testing,blablabla, (i cant remember all), initially I was shocked on the job scope, however they explained to me that it for my own benefit, cos i can learn more, one thing i remember clearly is that they said: "without those exp, wat if u develop sth that cant be put into production line to be manufacture, then it will be a problem to you", emm, sound reasonable to me. However after seeking advice from my lecturer, he told me that I shouldn't divide my attention on so many aspect, if want to go into R & D, I should emphasize on it, to gain deeper knowledge on certain technology. Tats y I also headache.

However thanks for your guys advice, now I'm preparing for my next week interview, hopefully I won't mess up with it, and thanks for your guys reminder, i should looking more toward career prospect. However in my mind, i still believe there are sum company are trying to squeezing us freshbie on salary, esp that statement they make: "nowadays RM2k considered high, sum ppls even get RM1.8k". I believe there are ppls getting 1.8k, however there should be other allowance to be claim for their benefit. I believe as a fresh graduate in engineering field , as long as we know what we had learn in the past, and our mentality and personlity should be in the right way,then shouldnt be a problem for us to find job, don't you all think so ?

Thx for your guys reply, appreciated the feedback from those ppls with work exp, it act as a reminder to us - fresh graduate.

Sum ppls might think abt, y we fresh graduate so chosy abt the RM200+ difference,since we are fresh graduate , which mean we dun have any saving in the past (unless ur parents dun mind to sponsor you a bit when starting, or you got work part time in the past before), and summore, sum of us are bond with the PTPTN Loan/bank loan. Plus like other expense that other forumer had mentioned, this is also need to be take into consideration also.

And one things for sure, if i stay back in my home (let said found job in KL), even 1.8k also ok for me as long as the job scope can learn the thing i want, cos stay with family member together is different then rent house outside, there will be sum hidden cost can be exempted.

maybe different ppls got their own way to spent money, however for my case, for 2k+work in outstation(without any allowance such as accomodation provided, subsidies) is hard for me to survive. However my dad had mentioned that even get paid for RM800 for trainee, he also dun mind to continue sponsor me to work there initially, as long as the job is what i want, and can learn thing. However this is the last resort that i will go for it, cos to me, after graduated, I won't allowed me to take any financial asistance from my family anymore, i will feel guilty abt it, cos by right, I should be the one who give them money, not the other way round.

ok, back to the topic, from the experience that i deal with those interviewer, i got the kind of feeling that they are trying to exploit on us (certain company i mean, not all), ok, i understand that we fresh graduate, we cant demand more, but shouldnt that we can enjoy other allowance which same with other ppls? with a 2k basic and no other allowance/subsisdies and work for half yr probation period then onli increase 10%, imagine after one yr, how mush can we get ? RM2.4k ? RM2.6k ?

ok, maybe from their point of view, they just wan cheap labour, cos once after one yr, those "freshbie" with one yr exp with jump to other company, so they will re-hiring again for freshbie, then re-exploit again, they dun appreciate those ppls, cos they want is a senior operator that can help do those miscellaneous job. Doesnt mean that work in those small MNC cant learn things, is just that the manager mentality make me afraid of being used by them as a slave, i dun want end up mumbling for everyday work.

and another is the transparencies, while interviewed, I had fill in the expected salary, and they had look at it already, while if they got their own company policy, they should said it initially, instead of try to "bargain" when offer me the job. Maybe ppls will said that the salary they offered are based on my interview performance, then I would said, my performance are not so worst yet, cos most of the interivewer had tested my personality and technical thing, and so far, most question are still in my scope of knowledge. Maybe problem is my personality, maybe they boh song me? if yes, then y still wan hire me ?

However, now i had put those offer in the last on my list, I will now preparing more toward the interview in KL/penang, and hope that can get a job that i wanted soon. And also, those fresh graduate who searching for job currently, don't be panic, be patient, as long as you be yourself and prepard for the interview, it shouldnt be a problem for us to find job.

I hope that won't kena bashed by other forumer, i just express out wat had in my mind, if I'm wrong, kindly point out my fault.

I had asked about other allowance/benefit that i can have, however, they stated, all these benefit/allowance onli can be claim once we pass the probation period. meanwhile during probation, we cant claim anything, and OT rate is lower then a permanet stuff.

I had explained clearly my difficulties and abt the salary that i stated initially for the job, becos i need to rent house outside, extra expense will be needed, unless accomodation provided by company. and i had told them clearly that i need to pay for my PTPTN loan monthly. Is not that i greedy on asking more on it, I just ask for RM2.2k-RM2.4k range, end up offered me RM2k. If company policy then tell me clearly, instead of asking me to spent my time/money to go from selangor to johor for interview.

However It is a nice trip to johor, as i learn a lot during those interview, is worth for the trip. Is just that i feel very boh song, after 4 yr studies, all the hardwork and effort, end up getting this kind of reply, ok, fresh graduate, no exp, so give u low salary no matter who you are. Using current unemployed fresh graduate issues as excuse, come on, in that categories, how many percentage is engineering sector ?Maybe is my luck ... nvm, i still can going on trying, i dun believe I cant find a suitable company with a reasonable salary.
My lecturer previously worked in a reputable MNC I****, and based on what he told me that, the choice i got is like double edge sword, it "might" help me or limit me in future, tat y he want me to consider clearly abt it.