I'm not using ClearType because the text clarity for 32" 4K QD-OLED is pretty good due to high PPI (27" 4K is even better) the text fringing will be more prominent on 27" 1440p, so ur MO27Q2 will kena. depends on ur personal tolerance, u may need to turn on ClearType so that narrow texts will be bolder for example, see FO27Q3 review on text clarity: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/giga...o27q3#test_4264 depends if ur i1display is rated for calibrating up to 1000cd/m2 or not. do u own a calman software license? that's an expensive software. never heard of HCFR until today, last time I only calibrated with DisplayCAL instead.
i tried clear type and without. in the end i settled for without. something does feel off. i donno how to explain....
its like, when i read the text, i cant quite focus as well and does feel a bit strain. is that the issue with the fringing?
cause if the issue is noticing weird colors around the text, i dont see that, looks ok to me.
150-180% zoom on scroller for browser is what i am most comfortable at. small but still readable without strain. 180% is the best for me
yeah im looking at the purple hue fringing in the demonstration picture in that article, i honestly dont see that
if u ask me to compare reading text vs ips, both r fine for me.
i open file explorer, look around the folders, icons, file list. looks ok to me. i guess for myself i should increase the font size or something. other than that minor quirk (mostly my own bad eye sight), its fine.
This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Aug 19 2025, 07:54 AM
I'd strongly suggest you go for 9800x3d+5090 combo for 4k gaming. No regrets, no looking back.
i did the math
the 98000x3d over the 7800x3d (tray) cost rm 1k difference. But if you spend for a boxed version of the 7800x3d the prices is much closer to a tray version of the 9800x3d.
mo27q2 VS mo27U2 (the later is 4k, the former is 1440p) this is a rm1k difference
5090 on shopee is 11-12k
is it just my imagination or does it feel like gamers (poor to middle income anyway) are being priced out
By comparison the 5070ti the youtuber recommend is minimum for 4k gaming only cost RM3629 - 3929. not saying its a good price by any means, but BY COMPARISON, its still saner than the 5090 (which i will pretend doesnt exist at least not at those prices )
In context, i already have a working AMD RX7800XT which is sufficient for 1440p gaming. I bought this before the amd 9*** series came out.
so getting the 4k upgrade, not only would i need to go through the hassle of refund to reorder 4k monitor (i already won the panel lottery for the current monitor, now i have to reroll the dice ) , i also have to pay at least RM3-5k extra just go go 4k. For myself, not worth it. I can afford it but i tend to prefer better value upgrades if possible. so that to me doesnt sound like a good deal. May be awesome, just not for the price to me. ESPECIALLY for 5090 graphic card
On top of that i saw a lot of stories for the 9800x3d (as such im not sure i would dare go for tray for this cpu because you may need warranty in future). i settled for the 7800x3d if something go wrong i at least got 3 year warranty and i didnt spend as much, and the rx 7800xt using with the cpu is more than enough without overspending when the bottleneck will be the graphic card not, cpu. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/...n-user-feedback
It wouldn't have made sense to spend on the 9800x3d unless i was ALSO going to get the 4k monitor, AND change the graphics card within the next 2 years minimum (which i am not). So that's why i didn't get it.
anyway timing was bad to begin with. only notice pc issue only after new monitor arrived and plugged it in. but regardless i was never gonna spend the extra beyond what i already spent I mostly play apex legends, and i was already getting 240 fps with my 5700x3d on am4. it's only sometimes i will try the other pc game titles when i am free. I do youtube though, so being able to live stream and game is something i do occasionally as well.
This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Aug 19 2025, 05:32 PM
The XG27AQWMG is a 27″ sized screen with a 2560 x 1440 resolution and a 280Hz refresh rate – all pretty standard and somewhat modest even you might think to yourself. What makes this new screen exciting and different though is that it’s one of the first screens to be launched using a new 4th Gen WOLED panel from LG.Display, also known as a ‘Primary RGB Tandem’ panel. This latest generation of WOLED technology promises improved brightness for both SDR and HDR along with improved colours, blacks and contrast.
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Key Specs
  26.5″ (27″ class), flat format   4th Gen ‘Primary RGB Tandem’ WOLED panel from LG.Display   Glossy panel finish using Asus ‘True Black’ glossy coating   2560 x 1440 resolution   280Hz refresh rate   Adaptive-sync for variable refresh rates (certifications TBC)   VESA DisplayHDR 500 True Black certification, including 1500 nits peak brightness spec (1.5% APL)   Wide (and improved) colour gamut covering 99.5% DCI-P3   OLED Care Pro features including Asus Neo Proximity Sensor   1x DisplayPort 1.4 (with DSC), 2x HDMI 2.1, 2x USB data ports and 1x headphone connections   Fully adjustable stand with tilt, height, swivel and rotate
so anyone wondering, yes its a 2k resolution monitor. And amazingly it's a true black Glossy (non of that matte )
i didn't see it listed in shopee. but i sus it will at least be rm3k+ If it was 3k, then you may want to consider the Gigabyte Mo27U2 which also uses the new gen4 panel and is 4k resolution.
I'd be very surprised if it was in the rm2k range. It would be awesome if it were.
That said i upgrade my pc build to AM5 with a 7800X3d cpu, and loving my gigabyte MO27Q2. No regret. At the end of the day my budget for monitor was in Rm2k range, so i got what i wanted at that price.
Unlike me, if you can hold out, u should. See how much the Gigabyte Gen4 woled will cost (keep in mind the first release is a matte). Or wait for the asus and check the price.
PS: did i mention the Gen4 with EL3.0 is 2x MORE burn in resistant than the previous gen? so if u are worried about burn in, so should be less worried with the gen4 panels. Also make sure to enable all the oled care features. I did for my gigabyte and it didn't affect my viewing pleasure, and it protects the monitor from burn in.
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Any ideas how is PRISM monitors
Lately seen a lot of PRISM boutique shops in the city
prism+ more or less operates like illegear means getting China OEM to give u the goods (full goods, mind u), u slap ur logo then done cheap for a reason. u get what u paid for. OEMs supply panels with different grades. lower grades = cheap.
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 19 2025, 07:50 AM)
i tried clear type and without. in the end i settled for without. something does feel off. i donno how to explain....
its like, when i read the text, i cant quite focus as well and does feel a bit strain. is that the issue with the fringing?
cause if the issue is noticing weird colors around the text, i dont see that, looks ok to me.
150-180% zoom on scroller for browser is what i am most comfortable at. small but still readable without strain. 180% is the best for me
i did not setup cleartype because others mentioned its not a good fit for qd oled. https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subac...l&id=1682676702 yeah im looking at the purple hue fringing in the demonstration picture in that article, i honestly dont see that if u ask me to compare reading text vs ips, both r fine for me.
i open file explorer, look around the folders, icons, file list. looks ok to me. i guess for myself i should increase the font size or something. other than that minor quirk (mostly my own bad eye sight), its fine.
think also depends on windows scaling. if scaling set to 100% then text fringing may be noticeable. ymmv for eye strain, also ymmv because OLED indeed has some flickering (but not PWM flicker), some people are sensitive to it at varying degrees (some will have migraines even) sometimes also not caused by flickering, just some other reasons like simply not getting used to reflections etc. see in the long run u still have eye strain or not
think also depends on windows scaling. if scaling set to 100% then text fringing may be noticeable. ymmv for eye strain, also ymmv because OLED indeed has some flickering (but not PWM flicker), some people are sensitive to it at varying degrees (some will have migraines even) sometimes also not caused by flickering, just some other reasons like simply not getting used to reflections etc. see in the long run u still have eye strain or not
no issues with any of that.
yes i did notice the reflections but this only happens when there is bright light sources pointing directly at monitor. usage wise i'm getting by despite that. Though i can imagine the TRUE glossy being an even worse offender for reflections. Right now i have a glossy with anti reflective coating. No wonder samsung qd oled went this route as long as light sources r under control from background, should be fine.
Samsung Display has scored an unprecedented victory against its rival BOE for stealing its OLED technology. In 2023, it filed a patent infringement lawsuit against Chinese firm BOE with the United States International Trade Commission (ITC). Samsung recently won that lawsuit, and the commission's ruling is expected to effectively ban BOE's products from entering the USA.
On July 11, 2025, the US ITC issued a preliminary ruling stating that eight companies, including BOE and its US subsidiaries, violated Article 337 of the Tariff Act by illegally using Samsung Display's OLED-related patents. The ruling largely acknowledged that BOE stole Samsung Display's technologies by hiring former staff and other means, causing Samsung Display millions of dollars in damages. BOE's OLED panels will likely be banned from the US for nearly 15 years
MSI MPG 271QR QD-OLED X50 Now Available For RM4,899
To quickly recap,the monitor uses a QD-OLED panel, along with several other MSI-centric features. The 271QR is a WQHD (2560 x 1440) display, featuring a 500Hz refresh rate and 0.03ms GTG response time. Additionally, it is a VESA ClearMR21000 and DisplayHDR True Black 500 certified, ensuring gamers deep blacks and bright, vivid colours.
I'm using a 240hz qd oled that only cost Rm 2000 (gigabyte 27moq2). If you want a 4k resolution model a gigabyte mo27u2 go for rm 3.1k
i've owned a ips monitor by msi, and it didn't last 1 year. yes i got a replacement under warranty but still, the quality of their monitor is bad because they don't last long even if under warranty. this is why i wouldnt recommend a msi monitor.
for similar sensor and all that, the asus have something similar.
I had the work from home setup monitor. which is the Lenovo Thinkvision T27hv-20. and the 2nd monitor is the HP 21" 1080p monitor.
I have an idea to upgrade my 2nd monitor to 27" 4k or 1440 monitor. you guys have a good recommendaion that can support the daisy chain from the lenovo monitor?
my setup:- 5070ti, 9800x3d, 32g.
i would want to use both for my office laptop + home... i tried gaming on the lenovo, good for simple game, but will have tearing if playgin CS2 / PUBG.
280hz panel (nice but i wasn't particularly interested in this when 240hz was more than sufficient for me)
new gen 4 WOLED (this is a LG panel technology). *this is what i was most interested in especially the burn in resistance feature and other improvements mentioned below
MATTE (if you hate matte, and you are glossy or semi glossy fan, then you may look elsewhere. there is supposedly a glossy version coming later on by gigabyte and also asus for the gen4 woled panel at some point presumable a few months later. people hate matte because it has a cloudy effect which ruins quality somewhat compared to glossy/semi glossy, but in return it's more excellent at anti reflection and works better in direct sunlight lighting conditions)
1440p resolution
Gen4 WOLED comes with improved burn in resistant by X2 compared to Gen3. Is a 5 layer tandem layer and uses EL 3.0 materials. has improved brightness, and color also vastly improved to catch up with QD oled panel technology (previously woled was critisized for having lousier colors compared to qd oled, but maybe gen4 changes that equation?)
woled vs qd oled. woled has some inherent issues with it's panel technology. Does those issues remain in gen4 woled? that i'm not sure. I only got a gigabyte mo27Q2 gigabyte qd oled gen3, which i like and found no issue i cannot stomach. so that is all i can comment on from experience for myself.
the pricing says Rm3k. Not sure if you can get better deal later on shopee with vouchers if it ever becomes available there (not sure when but probably soon).
of note, i noticed the gigabyte mo2u2 was going for rm3k (during a sale period on shopee), but is a 4k monitor. This mo27q28g gigabyte is a 1440p.
I bought the older gen3 oled the gigabyte mo27q2 roughly around rm2k.
MSRP for the mo27q28g last i checked was supposed to be $500 which is roughly around RM 2,104 so that rm3k seems like a rm900 markup price
for price between 2-3k for a oled gaming monitor, is about ok (not cheap, but still tolerable. if u want good stuff, expect to pay a premium)..... but if you don't want to spend that much, then IPS 1440p go for less than Rm1k. But having tried qd oled, i can't go back anymore. IPS white glow was horrendous
anyway i dont regret getting the mo27q2 because it was rm2k which at the time was the one of the most cheapest gaming oled 1440p monitors out there 240hz. Other brands are slow to catch up with that, but gigabyte was more aggressive on price offer and being a good product to go with it.
This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Oct 1 2025, 03:26 AM
saw on shopee the Redmi G Pro 27Q Mini LED goes for rm 1.2k - 1.5k at cheapest
are u interested in it for the mini led? you know that feature is mostly for the HDR experience? but rarely do i see the mini led do a good HDR experience (example, i had a MSI IPS 27'' 1440p previously claim HDR feature, but it was TERRIBLE at HDR. only good for SDR but not HDR. A lot of IPS monitors are like that, even if they have the added mini led is not confirm whether HDR is a good experience or not). Why not skip it over and go for a OLED gaming monitor? Bought one at rm2k. It's not too big a jump and you will get a monitor with many pros and not as many cons.
there is a concern for burn in, but if u enable all the anti burn in features and care for your monitor, shouldnt be a problem.
If however you are using it for work and constantly using for excel work sheets for hours on end, then IPS may make more sense.
This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Oct 1 2025, 03:36 AM
saw on shopee the Redmi G Pro 27Q Mini LED goes for rm 1.2k - 1.5k at cheapest
are u interested in it for the mini led? you know that feature is mostly for the HDR experience? but rarely do i see the mini led do a good HDR experience (example, i had a MSI IPS 27'' 1440p previously claim HDR feature, but it was TERRIBLE at HDR. only good for SDR but not HDR. A lot of IPS monitors are like that, even if they have the added mini led is not confirm whether HDR is a good experience or not). Why not skip it over and go for a OLED gaming monitor? Bought one at rm2k. It's not too big a jump and you will get a monitor with many pros and not as many cons.
there is a concern for burn in, but if u enable all the anti burn in features and care for your monitor, shouldnt be a problem.
If however you are using it for work and constantly using for excel work sheets for hours on end, then IPS may make more sense.
I wanted to try HDR but not OLED cuz my room is bright
I wanted to try HDR but not OLED cuz my room is bright
WOLED over my budget
correct, oled has less brightness than ips.
But the new gigabyte gen4 WOLED has improved brightness, better colors (closing the gap with qd oled).
Problem is it cost rm3k (not sure about vouchers, maybe 2.5k with vouchers?)
If you are on a tight budget, then oled is out of bounds.
The thing is you are looking at a rm 1.2 - 1.5k monitor. cheapest oled i bought was rm2k
and you seemed to be wanting to get HDR via IPS tech. Not saying it's impossible, but would require mini led backlighting to achieve that, and most do a bad job at it. I would strongly recommend you read the reviews to check if that monitor does HDR well or not.
Honestly, having used IPS and compared to a QD oled. IPS has WHITE GLOW. oled DOES NOT. that alone for me rules out getting a ips, since that is something i've always noticed. But if you can stomach that, then it's fine.
the woled i suggested is 3k, so that is totally out of your budget. the 2k monitor which is what i use i dont think it will be a good experience for you, because of you're lighting conditions. For me, i have a small window directly behind my monitor, and i have blinds to reduce lighting that leaks into the room. when the day is the brightest, it will ruin like 20-30% of the top half of screen, for few hours a day because of the brightness leaking into the room. this is during peak hours where sun rises high like 9am - 12 afternoon. hours after and before that is totally fine.
Anyway i like you did try to get HDR for IPS, it was hard to find a monitor that does it well. thats my main point.
The reviews even admit, most of these ips monitors, though it says they do HDR, they dont do it well, so you are better of not using HDR, and simply treating it as a SDR monitor only.
Also the only time i ever use hdr
1. netflix (need the subscription for the HDR mode. cheapest package does not have hdr) 2. youtube with HDR. most dont have HDR. 3. bluray with HDR.
there are 3 types of hdr afaik. HDR10, HDR10+, and Dolby Vision. You monitor and the content both need to have the matching hdr mode to benefit from it. My oled can do the improved hdr10. Not the best. I saw a more expensive oled could do best but that cost an extra rm1k for that.
Also because of poor brightness on HDR, this is where they are weakest as a monitor tech. But with new woled gen4, this may be changing and closing the gap to get it closer to ips brightness, though i don't think it quite gets there yet, but it's definitely closing the gap.
some interesting articles
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HDR True Black - OLED, QD-OLED only.
HDR 1400 - Mini-LED
Basically OLED is always great for HDR and no need to check what it came with.
Mini-LED wise normally can reach HDR 1000 and above if it is 1000+ local dimming zone Mini-LED in VA panel.
Both on spec can produce awesome HDR performance, you should check others criterial to see which impact to you more as both tech currently is not perfect for the moment.
For example OLED and QD-OLED cannot have perfect sharpness text clarity due to the pixel arrangement is not RGB. You will face text fringing issue.
As for Mini-LED in VA wise will have blooming issue and bad viewing angle if you did not look straight to the screen, in short VA is not suitable for screen sharing.
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it's just the peak brightness, 1400 doesn't mean it's better when the competition is oled. For most users i recommend the qd-oled over mini-led, as the overall picture quality is better unless you don't mind blooming at all.
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As the name suggest, HDR 1400 required that your display is capable of at least 1400 nit brightness in some windows while achieving contrast typical of a FALD LCD system, while HDR True Black 400 requires a display to be able to archieve a contrast typical of OLED while capable of at least 400 nits brightness in some windows.
In theory though.. it's probably doesn't mean much. A modern Mini-LED LCD - maybe even a decently edge-lit local dimming monitor can probably pass the HDR True Black 400 if they really want to abuse it, as Vesa certification system relies on a stupid Dual Corner Box system testing (and yes, in that scenario, even the edge-lit system can be tuned to give you true black by just turn off the black light from one half of the screen)
Lucky that in practice, HDR True Black is still used exclusively with OLED as intent. But manufacturers do definitely pull this sort of trick before. So it's always best to check your display in spesific rather than checking a broad VESA HDR certification
But the new gigabyte gen4 WOLED has improved brightness, better colors (closing the gap with qd oled).
Problem is it cost rm3k (not sure about vouchers, maybe 2.5k with vouchers?)
If you are on a tight budget, then oled is out of bounds. The thing is you are looking at a rm 1.2 - 1.5k monitor. cheapest oled i bought was rm2k and you seemed to be wanting to get HDR via IPS tech. Not saying it's impossible, but would require mini led backlighting to achieve that, and most do a bad job at it. I would strongly recommend you read the reviews to check if that monitor does HDR well or not.
Honestly, having used IPS and compared to a QD oled. IPS has WHITE GLOW. oled DOES NOT. that alone for me rules out getting a ips, since that is something i've always noticed. But if you can stomach that, then it's fine.
the woled i suggested is 3k, so that is totally out of your budget. the 2k monitor which is what i use i dont think it will be a good experience for you, because of you're lighting conditions. For me, i have a small window directly behind my monitor, and i have blinds to reduce lighting that leaks into the room. when the day is the brightest, it will ruin like 20-30% of the top half of screen, for few hours a day because of the brightness leaking into the room. this is during peak hours where sun rises high like 9am - 12 afternoon. hours after and before that is totally fine. Anyway i like you did try to get HDR for IPS, it was hard to find a monitor that does it well. thats my main point.
The reviews even admit, most of these ips monitors, though it says they do HDR, they dont do it well, so you are better of not using HDR, and simply treating it as a SDR monitor only.
Also the only time i ever use hdr
1. netflix (need the subscription for the HDR mode. cheapest package does not have hdr) 2. youtube with HDR. most dont have HDR. 3. bluray with HDR. there are 3 types of hdr afaik. HDR10, HDR10+, and Dolby Vision. You monitor and the content both need to have the matching hdr mode to benefit from it. My oled can do the improved hdr10. Not the best. I saw a more expensive oled could do best but that cost an extra rm1k for that.
Also because of poor brightness on HDR, this is where they are weakest as a monitor tech. But with new woled gen4, this may be changing and closing the gap to get it closer to ips brightness, though i don't think it quite gets there yet, but it's definitely closing the gap. some interesting articles https://linustechtips.com/topic/1468313-hdr...the-differance/ If you are still intent on an IPS monitor for HDR purposes, then check the reviews how it fares for HDR https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/4k-hdr https://www.displayninja.com/best-hdr-monitors/ rtings especially has a scoring, to make it easier to tell what is good or not. also pick if you need 1440p or 4k resolution. but i assume your budget is rm1.2 - 1.5k? so make sure you stay within budget, if over, may as well just go oled
With discount..i think i can get the redmi g pro 27Q below 1k
Worth trying
I think the 27Q is a pretty good mini LED monitor
Is an update of the 27i which many ppl bought and like
I just wait for Tandem WOLED to bcm cheaper in the future
With discount..i think i can get the redmi g pro 27Q below 1k
Worth trying
I think the 27Q is a pretty good mini LED monitor
Is an update of the 27i which many ppl bought and like
I just wait for Tandem WOLED to bcm cheaper in the future
just temper down expectations for HDR on ips. dont pay so much then find out later it doesnt do hdr well. thats my main tip for u. at least check the review.
if ur budget gets close to rm2k, at that point may as well go oled.
having recently switch from ips to qd oled, i can tell u, i will never go back ips
- no ghosting - responsiveness is the best - hdr looks great - great blacks - no IPS GLOW
saw this for RM755. i've used msi before the hdr was terrible. so i treated it as a sdr only monitor. 180hz might be dated, there may be 240hz monitors, not sure the price. honestly i don't recommend MSI because mine lasted 1 year then died. Warranty replacement works, but i'm unhappy about build quality. Not sure what brand recommend, maybe asus? or gigabyte?
Anyway if u r getting, better get soon cauz of the 10/10 deal.
It depends if you want hdr or not. This is incapable of displaying a true hdr picture you would need mini led or oled for that. This could be a fantastic monitor but it needs to be no more than 200-250 anything more would be ridiculous considering mini led is in the 250ish-350 range.
That said some of the features may be attractive to some like the kvm switch but again price is the real thing.
even if the ips has mini led, some do it badly. i cant remember which monitor i was looking at specifically, but i remember it had mini led but the review i think on rtings website review said it's HDR was terrible because it didnt do a good job for backlight.
This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Oct 2 2025, 08:16 AM
just temper down expectations for HDR on ips. dont pay so much then find out later it doesnt do hdr well. thats my main tip for u. at least check the review.
if ur budget gets close to rm2k, at that point may as well go oled.
having recently switch from ips to qd oled, i can tell u, i will never go back ips
- no ghosting - responsiveness is the best - hdr looks great - great blacks - no IPS GLOW besides hdr any other thing u looking for?
saw this for RM755. i've used msi before the hdr was terrible. so i treated it as a sdr only monitor. 180hz might be dated, there may be 240hz monitors, not sure the price. honestly i don't recommend MSI because mine lasted 1 year then died. Warranty replacement works, but i'm unhappy about build quality. Not sure what brand recommend, maybe asus? or gigabyte?
Anyway if u r getting, better get soon cauz of the 10/10 deal.
If my room isnt bright AF from the sunlight during the day..i would go for OLED..
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