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marfccy
post Aug 3 2014, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Aug 2 2014, 11:56 PM)
I see, so this U2412M still has problem with Nvidia graphic cards? All of them?
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as long you dont use HDMI or Display Port connectors, youre fine (U2412 only have 1 VGA, DVI and DP)

there are ways to fix it though, manually


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An Nvidia GTX 780 was used on our test system and we tested both DisplayPort and HDMI – with interesting results. When using either DisplayPort or HDMI the GPU sent out the wrong colour signal (‘Limited Range RGB 16-235’ instead of ‘Full Range RGB 0-255’). This reduced gamma, skewed white point, hugely impacted contrast and simply gave everything a washed out look. We are quite used to seeing this with Nvidia GPUs connected via HDMI as that is their default behaviour – treat the connected device as an HDTV. But we aren’t used to seeing this over DisplayPort which is currently a PC-only output. We tested the ‘MiniDP’ port as well as the full sized DP port using both DP 1.1 and DP 1.2. The screenshot below shows that the native resolution of the monitor (1920 x 1080) is listed under ‘Ultra HD, HD, SD’ as ‘1080p, 1920 x 1080 (native)’ when connected by DisplayPort. This list of resolutions is designed for output in RGB 16-235 to devices such HDTVs.

This can be rectified for both DisplayPort and HDMI by creating a custom resolution with a 59.999Hz refresh rate. This will be treated by any application* as 60Hz but uses the correct Full Range RGB 0-255 colour signal. The process for setting this up is shown in the video below.

*Some games seem to ignore custom resolutions and will instead revert to using the default Limited Range RGB 16-235. That is why a preferred method for correcting the colour signal over HDMI is to use this utility. You just run the .exe file included in the .zip and click the button at the top right which is labelled ‘Set Full Range (0-255)’. You then simply restart your computer. You don’t have to re-run the tool every time the computer starts up, only if you ‘clean install’ a new graphics driver or replace your OS.

Unfortunately this utility doesn’t do anything to the DisplayPort signal. We only had one U2414H with us for testing, but suspect that running them in ‘Surround’ using the MST/Daisy Chain capability of the monitor will use the correct signal as well because the resolution used (5760 x 1080) is PC only. If not a solution would be to use HDMI ports (or DVI ports using a DVI to HDMI cable) on the GPU(s). We simply used the HDMI connection and the utility to correct the colour signal (universally – even for games that ignore custom resolutions) and the difference in gamma, colour depth and contrast compared to an uncorrected signal was remarkable. AMD GPU users don’t have to worry about this and should be able to use DisplayPort or HDMI quite happily.
sauce from one of the latest monitors
http://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-u2414h/
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post Aug 7 2014, 03:30 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Aug 6 2014, 09:06 PM)
does that apply 2 the U2713H also? cool2.gif what made it more than another 1000 bucks more expensive than U2713HM? cool2.gif
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it comes with colour calibration as compared to U2713HM afaik
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post Aug 7 2014, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(ttz @ Aug 7 2014, 07:45 PM)
Does this problem exist on laptop/mobile NVIDIA GPUs as well?
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not sure, gotta check

but it affects all Kepler cards afaik
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post Aug 9 2014, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Aug 9 2014, 06:11 AM)
LO AND BEHOLD...THE TIME HAS FINALLY COME *TADA* cool2.gif

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more 2 coming brows.gif will post with some movies and games screenshots in it brows.gif been vaping it since 2pm yesterday and the addiction is still going strong brows.gif 2 the extent i ignored whatever is happening outside the room laugh.gif
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U2713HM? hmm.gif

im planning to get that to pair with my U23 in vertical mode brows.gif
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post Aug 10 2014, 09:10 PM

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tested ASUS's GSync monitor at APES's booth at PIKOM DLE today

all i can say is, the hype is true

i can see virtually no screen tearing at all

tested them with Tomb Raider, Batman Arkham Origins and AC IV
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post Aug 12 2014, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(pakji @ Aug 12 2014, 05:03 PM)
daam i want get ASUS's GSync monitor but no HDMI  cry.gif
can't use xbox 360 or ps3 console for hdmi  sad.gif

now i using ASUS VG248QE 144HZ TN only without Gsync
can use xbox 360 or ps3 console for hdmi
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no point cos console cant do 60FPS also whistling.gif

in all seriousness, consoles are not using Nvidia GTX650 Ti and above cards, how to use GSync? sweat:
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post Aug 12 2014, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(pakji @ Aug 12 2014, 06:15 PM)
most console cap 60fps i am sure

why i want gsync monitor
i use PC GAMING + XBOX GAMING + PS3 GAMING
that problem tearing for PC Gaming 120FPS AND 144FPS for PC
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not trying to be a rude or anything, but did you do your research before writing that?

last gen consoles have not been 60FPS since years, theyre stuck on 24-30FPS

even if youre referring to latest gen consoles, not all is 60FPS

as for why you want GSync, ofc thats why, since you have PC with Nvidia card. why not make use of the capability right?
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post Aug 12 2014, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(pakji @ Aug 12 2014, 09:39 PM)
i plan buy new pc rig i get high end SLI NVIDIA card only
i dont take ATI
yes most console cap 24-30fps max
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imo, GSync works best if your rig is mid-high end (depending on reso, might be low-mid end)

and the frames works best around 60-90FPS

at that FPS, it makes it the best gaming experience

if 30-60FPS, youll see stuttering due to low FPS
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post Aug 12 2014, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(pakji @ Aug 12 2014, 10:11 PM)
i plan buy high end pc rig like geforce gtx 780 ti or titan black sli

but if i want play console any tips because no hdmi
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get DP to HDMI converter

quite troublesome, since the ASUS PG278Q only have one connector
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post Aug 20 2014, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Dreamworks @ Aug 19 2014, 09:15 PM)
Received ma new monitor yesterday. Sexy slim bezel is sexy wub.gif

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Was using a Sony LCD TV with VA panel previously, so the colors didn't exactly wow me at first laugh.gif
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i see Twilight, Cadence and Shining Armor there brows.gif
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post Sep 2 2014, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(akmalrosli @ Aug 31 2014, 05:24 PM)
http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/product...s1&sku=391-bbuw

http://accessories.ap.dell.com/sna/product...BBUW&redirect=1

Dell U2415 listed on Dell Taiwan/Hong Kong's website! 99% sRGB, 16:10.

EDIT: AH-IPS confirmed by prad.de. 2 Displayport, 2 HDMI

http://www.prad.de/en/guide/screen9667.html
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that price though sweat.gif

USD500+
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post Sep 3 2014, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(djlah @ Sep 3 2014, 03:58 PM)
first launch price ma...  sweat.gif
if really interested, wait for promotion la  brows.gif another 2 months+ already reach year end  icon_idea.gif
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mine is next year March cry.gif
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post Oct 17 2014, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(teng_08 @ Oct 16 2014, 12:25 PM)
Dell U2415 is now available! biggrin.gif
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how much? laugh.gif
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post Jan 5 2015, 05:43 AM

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QUOTE(NecroPhilia @ Jan 2 2015, 08:05 AM)
So your choice would be going for the Dell U2515H too? smile.gif

I'm looking forward to place order by today if can decide which to go. smile.gif
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you found seller for Dell's U2515H?

afaik its sort of "available" from Dell's site atm, but im not sure for local sellers. would like to take a look on it first before making my final decision smile.gif
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post Jan 5 2015, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(NecroPhilia @ Jan 5 2015, 08:57 AM)
I'm from East Malaysia so I directly place an order from Dell Online. Unfortunately they doesn't give any rebate from the official retail price.

In East Malaysia,I could not find a local pc shop that have this model. Alternatively,I just look for reviews and user opinions on this model but doesn't have lot of information about this model. I could find a ton of unboxing and review for the Dell U3415W as well as U2715H but not Dell U2515H.

I placed my order for Dell U2515H instead of Dell U2715H is due to the difference of RM800. I am thinking of getting an another unit if it is satisfy enough. In case if the 25" monitor doesn't look good, I would try to negotiate with the dell representative to waive for the RM80 return fee and get the Dell U2715H instead sad.gif
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i found unboxing for U2515H, but its in chinese. but the pictures look promising
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3465962123?see_lz=1&pn=1

QUOTE(NecroPhilia @ Jan 5 2015, 09:33 AM)
Anyone knows what is the market price for second hand Dell U2312HM? Plan to sell of my Dell U2312HM and setup 3 X Dell U2515H due to the slim bezel. Dell U2312HM bezel a little bit too thick sad.gif
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rule of thumb for 2nd hand things, usually reduce the price abt 15-25% depending on how old and how fast it depreciates. since its monitor, and provided with 5 year warranty, i think reduce abt 15% off the SRP you bought and see how well people find it? hmm.gif

throw it inside GS, this monitor is quite in high demand even for 2nd hand units. i might even buy yours if youre not from East Msia, the shipping would kill me sweat.gif

QUOTE(llk @ Jan 5 2015, 10:00 AM)
Plan to upgrade my monitor to 27inch, currently look at Dell U2713H & U2715H, has check with Dell sales person U2713H is RM100 more than U2715H, from the picture U2713H look old design, but was informed it is newest model, would like to check with experienced guys here which one is better? Thanks
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RM100 more only? there are 2 variant of U2713, the H and HM. H version is said to have been colour calibrated to industry standards.

take your time to read these reviews smile.gif
https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-u2713h/
https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-u2713hm/
https://pcmonitors.info/dell/dell-u2715h-a-slick-wqhd-model/

generally, Dell name their monitors as
U = Ultrasharp series
27 = monitor size
15 = 2015, what else tongue.gif
H/HM = not so sure for this, but M version so far are "less premium"
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post Jan 5 2015, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ Jan 5 2015, 04:27 PM)
As per conversation with Dell sales person, he told me that U2713H is the latest model. hope he didn't mess with HM model  sweat.gif
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those with 13 at the backs, are year 2013 models

theyre not the newest, either the salesman is pushing off stock, or thats the latest one they got

not every store have the 2015 revisions btw

QUOTE(vodoo88 @ Jan 5 2015, 08:23 PM)

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arb how many year warranty? ill say pay the extra RM300 for the 3-5 years warranty. Dell have a good track record of after sales service, so its definitely worth the money
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post Jan 5 2015, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ Jan 5 2015, 08:56 PM)
What do u think about U2715H compared with U2713H? Based on spec U2713H seem like better than U2715H, i really have no idea about monitor  sweat.gif
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spec-wise both are similar, with the exception U2713H have the better colour reproduction compared to the U2715H (it comes factory calibrated to industry standards)

they both have USB3.0 ports, uses HDMI and Display Ports, pretty much similar too

design wise, the U2715H is the one with slim bezel. so if its your thing, go for it.
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post Jan 6 2015, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(djlah @ Jan 6 2015, 01:23 PM)
Yes, U2713H panel still better. you're right, higher color gamut are better. U2713H specs are 120% CIE1976 & 103% CIE1931. U2713H pricing is far higher than both U2713HM & U2715H, should not take it as comparison.
you may google for long explanation. in short, with higher bits panel and internal processing, can produce higher number of colors. taking U2713H back as example, it's 8 bits FRC panel with 12 bit internal processing, the number of colors is 1.07 Billion (both U2715H & U2713HM only standard 16.7 Million)
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wouldnt most affordable consumer tier monitors these days be 6+2bit monitors? even my U2313HM is 6+2bit, but marketed as 8bit

10bit monitors are extremely rare, and youll need workstation cards to make it run at 10bit anyways
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post Jan 6 2015, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(RaymondMZ @ Jan 6 2015, 06:06 PM)
Teaser ! drool.gif  later will upload some unboxing photo.. poor phone camera though  cry.gif
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do give mini review, im hoping to get my hands on these as well nod.gif


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post Jan 7 2015, 05:10 AM

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QUOTE(RaymondMZ @ Jan 7 2015, 04:36 AM)
I had a hard time writing a review. ><! but finally i done it! this is my 1st ever review and i written on a facebook page that i created for fun and abandoned ages ago
here you go ya guys ! ^^ do drop a comment/inbox if any question about it. i'd try my best to ans ._.

Mini Unboxing review of Dell U2515H
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aww fesbuk sad.gif

why not make a post in LYN?

EDIT: can i has picture comparison of its size next to some easy to measure daily object?

This post has been edited by marfccy: Jan 7 2015, 05:12 AM

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