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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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post Oct 17 2017, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(OmiCatFace @ Oct 17 2017, 08:38 AM)
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Remember Zcova's diamonds I found? They said they do not have the diamond in Malaysia. Will only proceed to order after payment. They have the image and GIA# online but not for the scopes and all. What if the diamonds doesn't look good after I made the payment and arrived here? Not sure if I can argue much about it. If compared to Whiteflash and Brian Gavin, at least I know what kind of diamond I am buying... the only downside is getting a lower carat from them and do not accept MY credit card transaction (only Brian Gavin allow MY credit card).
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That's buying blind. Avoid if you are not 100% confident of good light performance.

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QUOTE(kanghinn @ Oct 17 2017, 11:42 AM)
Thanks all sifu-sifu comment. I will look around more and need to consider the design as well. My gf is very particular about the design. I have seen JannPaul website customized ring, it seems nice too! will it be more expensive than 10k that i showed above or slightly lower?
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Take a look at their Facebook page for the latest customisations. They are one of the top non-conventional jewellers in Singapore. Non-conventional means not those kind which you commonly find in shopping malls.
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QUOTE(OmiCatFace @ Oct 17 2017, 08:24 AM)
Regardless what the diamond's proportion is, even if is a super ideal cut diamond, it is still overprice to me. Plus is IIDGR cert, not for me definitely. I either go for GIA or AGS certs for the diamonds. I think Le Lumiere can give you better carat for this price and is GIA certified and have a very good cut score (as far as I have seen so far). From this, I can see you are willing to go until 10k budget. If me, I will fly all the way to Singapore and get JannPaul for this kind of diamond spec. Someone will surely agree with me on this...  whistling.gif
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No need purposely fly there one bro. Can liaise with them via email first.

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QUOTE(OmiCatFace @ Oct 19 2017, 10:28 AM)
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After looking around at Brian Gavin's website, I am unable to get the minimum specs (G, SI1, O.4ct) with my current budget. Found the diamond below and I think I have to sacrifice my colour a bit to H to maximise the carat. What sifu think about this? You think is ok with this diamond?

1) https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...-c-104095881012
2) https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds...-c-104095881011

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Theoretically, H colour will look slightly yellowish if you ask me. But if the cut grade is good enough, the sparkles from the diamond will be able to mask the yellow tint.

Realistically, at 0.4 carat, you will not be able to see the colour at normal viewing distance from the top. Furthermore, no one will compare your diamond side by side with another, so why worry?

Just get the best available cut to maximise your carat weight. As for colour and clarity, go as low as you are comfortable with. An eye-clean SI1 G/H diamond would be ideal for this size.
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QUOTE(OmiCatFace @ Oct 19 2017, 01:13 PM)
Yes sifu! I totally agreed with you. At first I want to go for D-F... Then I set to G as my minimum. But if to go within my budget, I still can't get a 0.40ct diamond. Yes, I got a few diamonds within my specs in KL but yet it still doesn't look as good as those shown in Brian Gavin, Whieflash or JannPaul. Y? Coz most of the jeweller here do not provide Ideal or ASET images to us... All I can get is the diamond proportion and HCA score. I have emailed Brian Gavin regarding some matters and will see how it goes from here. In the meantime, I also waiting for reply from JannPaul. Hahaha
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Bro, don't call me sifu bro. Master kambingkoh baru is the Ip Man diamond sifu. Like Ip Man, he can tell whether a diamond has good light return just by looking at the proportions.

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Jokes aside, the diamond proportions can only tell you THAT much. As it involves the use of numbers to determine the outcome of the diamond (good or bad light performance), it is called a numerical/approximate solution. Same goes to the HCA and Enchanted Cut Score calculators. The opposite? Yup, you said it yourself bro, Idealscope and ASET images. This is called an analytical/exact solution, where the solution has been proven to work. By referencing your Idealscope/ASET image to the one below, you can determine exactly the light performance of your diamond under various lighting conditions.

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All numerical solutions have to be validated by experiments cuz not all solutions obtained numerically are true. In this case, the "experiment" is the Idealscope and ASET images of your diamond.
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QUOTE(AceAbagail @ Oct 21 2017, 12:10 PM)
Guys, need your advise. Love&co 0.4ct E SI1 rm12.6k worth? What certification are they using?
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A 0.4 for more than 12 grand ahh?

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 23 2017, 02:33 PM)
The H&A image is slightly tilted to one side. But even if I tilt my phone a little to see, I can see the 2 hearts at the 12 o'clock positions have a tiny bit of height variance. Hey, I used a ruler and put it on my phone lol. As for the arrows, I won't really get bothered by then because it is nothing unusual among super ideals, although I hope it can be better. Sometimes things can be due to photography setup, but as far as BGD is concerend, they are using state-of-the-art photography tools, so I guess the variances are really there. But to be fair, diamond cutting is handcraft after all, so don't be surprised by such slight variances even if they are one of the top super ideal vendors. Nonetheless, if you don't feel comfortable with it, it is okay to skip it first and wait for another one that can make you feel comfortable with. You are the customer afterall. Lol.
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Let's be realistic. Unless you have really really powerful eyes, do you think you can see the so-called height variance without the aid of a viewer? We are talking about sub-millimeter kind of dimensions here.

While it is good to highlight the imperfections in the diamond, we must also bear in mind that some of them are just not worth the extra money.
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 30 2017, 01:22 AM)
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Please note that Brian Gavin does not provide free delivery, so you will need to pay a certain amount extra. Despite that, it will still be within your budget.
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Pay for delivery better I pay for a higher carat weight bro.
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 30 2017, 10:52 PM)
https://black.briangavindiamonds.com/diamon...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link). This is a D VS1.
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https://black.briangavindiamonds.com/diamon...?a_aid=myengexp (affiliate link). This is D VS2.
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Need to go until D mehh bero?

Why not F or G then kasi bump up the carat weight?
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 31 2017, 08:58 AM)
Because I filtered from E onwards. But yes, yoy are right, there is no need to go til D. Let me look see what F and G got to offer.
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 31 2017, 11:50 AM)
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I will still buy the 0.56ct because of the ASET in the certificate shows more contrast. I believe, in real life, things will be more interesting on the 0.56ct.

Is 0.541 any good then? Absolutely fine. In fact, it produces bolder flash because the lower girdle length is 76% compared to the 0.56ct which has lower girdle length of 78%. In theory, shorter lower girdle length will produce fatter arrows and also produces bolder flash. It is good to buy the 0.541 if you want bright diamond with bold flashes. But personally, I prefer more fire, and 0.56ct seems to be able to provide that.

Although the video does not show that 0.56ct looks better than the 0.541ct, but I am willing to put my trust on it, after seeing its proportions and ASET in the certificate of the 0.56ct. Just personal preference.
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What the flying fish?? Lowering colour grade from D to F can only get you a bump of 0.04 carat max ahh? Haha like this better stick with the D lahh cuz that sad 0.04 carat increase will not be visible even with a side-to-side comparison. Unless you bring a micrometer and measure lahh.

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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Oct 31 2017, 01:29 PM)
Lol. Sometimes better colour/clarity diamonds can be cheaper than lower colour/clarity diamonds. My guess is that different time, different price. And they won't revise the price after that. Another guess is that the more expensive diamonds can be of better cut quality, which sometimes, seem to be the case. So, yea, stick with D can be a good choice since it is more visible to the viewer.

Actually going towards the end of near colourless may be quite a fun experience. Some said pair slightly yellowish diamond with gold colour rings can help to mask the yellowish tint. Probably rose gold will do the trick too. By sacrificing colour, one can probably earn much more in terms of cut, clarity, and carat, which I think is a pretty fair trade. Maybe one day I go and get one I/J diamond haha.
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Kasi beli yellow diamond je lahh bero.
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QUOTE(mrRighthand @ Oct 31 2017, 10:23 PM)
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Considering if i should get a 0.5 carat and sacrifice abit on the clarity. Currently am looking at vs1.

Thank you in advance for your help!
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Going from 0.4 to 0.5 will incur a huge jump in price. Advisable to get 0.48-0.49 instead.
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QUOTE(zaFrOoNaLdO @ Nov 1 2017, 01:22 PM)
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however, would you have a recommendation if im looking for Cushion Cut diamond? prolly around 0.5ct (since cushion cut is normally cheaper to my understanding). I need shiny2 diamond like before.  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Why not princess cut? Mounted on a suitable setting, it simply oozes elegance.
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Nov 5 2017, 11:33 PM)
RM 2k is probably impossible to get a whole diamond ring with a good quality diamond. However, for that budget you may be able to get a decent quality loose diamond, but it will be slightly small - a 0.2ct diamond. It would probably be hard to get a diamond engagement ring at this price from brick-and-mortar stores, but you can try walking-in and ask. There is no harm asking and checking for the latest price in the market. Besides, you may be able to view the actual diamonds and know more about them as well.

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QUOTE(chrisderick88 @ Nov 12 2017, 10:01 AM)
1. I saw online about cutting, color etc, but when I go to the shop, they don't seems to know those like cut angle etc. Not much point of comparison. Any advice on how to compare in those situation?

2. I heard there are different cut (hearts, etc etc). I dont recall reading these. Which is fav?

3. The ring! I believe we prefer something simple. but will 0.2 looks too small... aiks..

sorry to shoot question randomly, honestly even after reading about the 4C i'm still confused.
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1. Salespersons in your typical jewellery stores usually don't know much about their stuff. They just wanna make a quick buck from your purchase by telling you how brilliant their diamonds are, how shiny they look under bright LED lighting, etc. In this case, you can make comparisons using an Idealscope or ASET scope, which I doubt they will let you have them, unless they are 100% confident that their diamonds will look good under these light performance scopes.

2. I assume that you are referring to diamond shapes. Besides round brilliant and princess cut, there are cushion cut, asscher cut, heart shape, oval, pear, marquise, and so on. If you find round and square too mainstream, try going for fancy cuts. They are cheaper per carat but lose out in terms of light return vs their round counterpart, as they are cut for the shape itself. Personally, I find heart shapes to be quite special. Cuz there is nothing more meaningful than to express your forever love with a diamond which carry the universal love symbol. I successfully proposed with a heart shape.

3. 0.2 honestly, is a tad too small. The "usual" size which I normally come across for engagement rings is somewhere in the range of between 0.3-0.5. If budget is your main concern, I believe master kambingkoh might be able to assist you in getting something worthy of your hard earned cash. The best way to go (and the best bang for your buck) is to get your stone online and have the ring customised locally.

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Nov 16 2017, 02:45 AM)
Hi kambing, im torn either going to buy my diamonds online via wf/bgd or sg's jannpaul for their SI series.

Any advices?
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Kasi sapu kat JannPaul je lahh bero kalo ko ada kat Singapore.

Ko nak beli sebijik batu bero, bukan kangkung kat pasar atau selipar kat pasar malam bero.

Kan lebih selamat kalo ko boleh pegang batu tu, menganalisanya di bawah skop-skop yang tersedia dengan dua bijik mata ko yang cantik tu, dan yang bestnya sekali, dapat pilih diamond yang ko paling suka secara live!

Nampak tu?? LIVE tau!!!

Kalo kat stor tu tak ada diamond yang ko suka, ko boleh request jurujual tu untuk carikannya sampai dapat.

Langsung takde apa-apa hidden kos, servis caj, searching fee, dll.

Dan yang paling best sekali? Mereka ada kasi ko satu sesi diamond education secara pree!!

Lepas sesi tu kalo ko nak cabut, boleh jugak, takde hal!

So kalo ko ni kat Singapore, no harm buat satu temujanji dengan jurujual JannPaul tu dan pergi lahh menikmati keindahan tandatangan potong (signature cuts) yang mereka ada.

Sekian.

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Nov 16 2017, 09:26 PM)
Thanks for the opinion, since its just 1 stone, JP SI the best so far compared to wf & bgd
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Bagus bero.

Kasi rembat JannPaul bero!

Hantar emel kasi mereka dan buat lahh temujanji dengan jurujual kat sana.

Pasti hang takkan menyesal pilih JannPaul untuk cincin pertunangan hang!

Ehh jangan lupa mereka pun ada kasi servis kustomisasi tau!
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QUOTE(Fairview @ Nov 17 2017, 01:31 PM)
Brother Koh,

Ring setting is done via a established local chain of mortar and brick jewellery shops namely WC.  My wife is satisfied with the workmanship (usually ladies are very particular about their ring and this round passed the test) and charges is reasonable.

As for the photo thousand apologies as my spouse has taken possession of the ring.

Cheers.
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Are you a poet ahh bero?
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Nov 17 2017, 01:45 PM)
lol. Thanks for your opinions too bb100. I know they have great service but just thinking of best bang for bucks value worth.
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Kalo hang nak bes beng for yor bak, pernah tak konsider ambil potongan puteri (princess cut)?

Sebab potongan puteri ni punya harga per karat lebih rendah daripada potongan bulat tau?

Tapi ada lahh dia punya drawbacks.

Drawbacks yang paling utama ialah kelip dan api potongan puteri yang jauh lebih lemah berbanding potongan bulat.

Tapi dengan harga yang sama, hang boleh dapat saiz yang lebih besar dengan potongan puteri ni.

Cuba lahh konsider.

Masa hang pergi JannPaul sana, peel pree untuk bertanya pasal potongan-potongan fensi yang lain, macam bentuk hati, bentuk bujur, bentuk kusyen, dan sebagainya.

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