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Advice Wanted [WTA] Proposal Ring & Wedding Bands, Please advice me!! Need Help!!

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post Jun 19 2017, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(dragon528 @ Jun 15 2017, 01:55 PM)
Alright, wait till I see them this weekend. I'm very excited to collect the ring on this weekend  rclxm9.gif
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Bro, weekend is over bro. Got your ring bro?

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QUOTE(dragon528 @ Jun 19 2017, 11:03 AM)
sad.gif  Received no call from them. Still waiting now. Not sure is it delayed or they're busy moving.
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Did you let them know your planned proposal date? If you did, I think they should be able to make it.

Be patient bro! But I know it is easier said than done lahh haha.
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QUOTE(atyt1985 @ Jun 19 2017, 12:06 PM)
Dear Sifus i am planning to get an engagement ring for my gf. My budget is around 4k.
The ring preferably gold. (She dont like white gold).

Please suggest a great diamond and setting for this price. ( 0.3 carat?)

or

A ready made ring that can fits that price

Please suggests also if this price is not possible and i need to fork out extra
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I would suggest that you go and survey the price of a 0.3 carat diamond with gold setting at Midvalley first cuz almost all the big jewellers are there. Be sure to visit Wah Chan, as mentioned by sifu dragon528, cuz they have very good deals.

When you know roughly where you stand, then only you look at those non-conventional jewellers like Tailored Jewel, Eumayco, Audrey's, etc. Price and specs comparison will be easier this way.
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QUOTE(dragon528 @ Jun 21 2017, 03:58 PM)
Finally got mine today! So excited about it and surprisingly it look quite big ( for my point of view  tongue.gif  )
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Wahh bro, the stone looks big lehh. shocking.gif 0.414 carat right?
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QUOTE(dragon528 @ Jun 22 2017, 11:00 AM)
Haha, unsure about it but it just a feeling. When I talk to Eumayco girl, she said looks ok. Maybe I see wrong?
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Ya lohh, got senget mehh? Your so many drillz there I cannot see the diamond senget wohh...

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QUOTE(dragon528 @ Jun 22 2017, 02:38 PM)
Haha, maybe over excited. It just a simple design but I'm satisfied, the size look good also.  tongue.gif
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Haha confirm overexcited bro. The setting looks fine.

Some people like it clean and simple, while some people like to have a bit more detail on their ring. No matter what, I am sure your future wife would love the ring bro!

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QUOTE(rap_music_love @ Jun 22 2017, 11:32 PM)
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Just PM them and show the design you want , they will assist smile.gif

Good luck peeps
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Wah princess cut??
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QUOTE(rap_music_love @ Jun 27 2017, 03:14 PM)
You can ask them personally on the specs
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I think he meant the specs of your princess cut diamond.
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QUOTE(ac_N1 @ Jun 28 2017, 03:11 PM)
Anyone have idea how much a Tiff & Co. / Cartier / Bvlgari 0.3 and 0.4 carat ring would cost?

Thanks in advanceĀ  notworthy.gifĀ  notworthy.gifĀ  notworthy.gif
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An arm and a leg.

kambingkoh please help this guy before he falls into the trap.

Bro, read this up and see if it changes your mind about those "high keras" brands:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-43...vercharges.html

Here is the video if you are a TL;DR kind of guy.



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QUOTE(ac_N1 @ Jun 28 2017, 05:13 PM)
Already know that, basically all branded stuffs charge premium price for their so called premium brand  sad.gif

When it comes to proposal/marriage better get something that she would cherish. Do you think can get a 0.3c one at around 15khmm.gif
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Ohh my god. 0.3 carat for RM15,000??!!

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Mine 0.74 carat and sendiri design setting only slightly more than that figure.

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Seriously I don't know how much they cost in those ripoff shops. Perhaps sifu kambingkoh can shed some light?
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QUOTE(kambingkoh @ Jun 28 2017, 09:00 PM)
Also, what is the "premium" you are willing to pay? A super ideal 0.3ct F color VS2 probably costs between USD 900 to USD 1000. A complete 0.3ct should cost you between RM 5500 to RM 6000 for simple solitaire design, which is what a classic Tiffany design is. Any upgrade in workmanship or side diamonds should also cost below RM 7500. I am already giving extra headroom in terms of diamond price and ring setting price. So if RM 15k is really the case, that means the brand costs RM 7500 at least, some more I highly doubt that you can a diamond that is as good as a super ideal. So in this case, is this the premium you willing to pay? It is entirely up to you because everyone has their own preference.
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Spot on by the sifu. No wonder people here call you master.

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Need to pay >50% of the total price just for the brand name. Some more it comes with a less than ideal diamond. Bro ac_N1, do your math based on sifu's advice above and see if getting a "branded" diamond is really justified. I know lahh the blue box and whatever can make a girl squeal in delight, but that's all about it. In your case, it is RM7,500 (at least) for a miserable box.

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QUOTE(ac_N1 @ Jun 29 2017, 12:05 PM)
Appreciated all the input, but she's really into all these 'branded' stuffs, like bags, clothing, heels etc etc. I was thinking this is the one and only time to buy a diamond ring anyway, so don't really mind the price.

But if those ready made rings, where is the best place to get one? Habib? Tomei? Just considering my options....
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Where got ladies don't like branded stuff one bro? Especially handbags. But bro, when it comes to diamonds, the ladies like it BIG! The bigger the merrier that kind.

Imagine this lahh and tell yourself which scenario is more preferable.

Scenario 1:

Girlfie: My boyfie got me a diamond engagement ring!
Friend: Congrats wohh, what size the diamond?
Girlfie: It is a 0.3 carat from Tiffany & Co.
Friend: _________

Scenario 2:


Girlfie: My boyfie got me a diamond engagement ring!
Friend: Congrats wohh, what size the diamond?
Girlfie: It is a 0.8 carat Super Ideal, and he designed the setting himself lehh!
Friend: _________

I left the friend's respond blank for better imagination.
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QUOTE(duckevo @ Jun 29 2017, 03:25 PM)
hands & legs up for scenario 2.....  :thumbsup:

i educated my soon to be waifu on diamond specs instead of goin for branded diamonds....  brows.gif

and self-designed setting have much more sentimental value and she will value it more since it's your own design thought & heart... nothing beats it even the branded diamond can't matched it...  rclxms.gif
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Long time no hear from you bro. If I am not wrong, you also started with enquiries on T&Co, Cartier, all this branded stuff right? Glad you made the wiser choice bro. I am sure your soon-to-be waifu loves her engagement ring!

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QUOTE(matrixation @ Jun 30 2017, 10:34 AM)
thank you for this post sir - where can i see the whiteflash & brian gavin diamonds in KL area? I intend to continue my hunt tomorrow (saturday), and would love to drop by if possible.
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Whiteflash, Brian Gavin and James Allen for that matter are online diamond retailers. No shop in KL.
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QUOTE(matrixation @ Jun 30 2017, 11:16 AM)
oic, thanks mate
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You might wanna check out private jewellers in KL.
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QUOTE(matrixation @ Jun 30 2017, 11:41 AM)
mind pointing me in that direction?
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Eumayco.
Tailored Jewel.
Audrey's.

That's all I know. Sifu kambingkoh might know more.

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QUOTE(matrixation @ Jul 3 2017, 10:04 AM)
So I went to Eumayco, Audrey's, De Beers, Tiff & Co, Tomei, Habib, and then back to Wa Chan - all to see their signature diamonds - so called better than common GIA triple excellent.

Would like to verify my understanding, is it safe to say the super ideal diamonds (Habib's hearts on fire, Tomei's Lumiere, and the likes) are just triple ex diamonds with extremely good proportions? like the crown & pavilion angles, and depts, and cut symmetry is very good to produce optimal fire, brilliance, and scintillation? Assuming what I understand above is correct, this would mean, I can also get similar grade diamonds elsewhere (like wa chan or online) cheaper; albeit unbranded?
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Exactly! Even Whiteflash A Cut Above, James Allen True Hearts and JannPaul Super Ideal are all nothing but very brilliantly cut round diamonds. They just slap on a brand name and charge you a premium.

However, these only apply to the traditional rounds with 57 facets. Modified rounds like the Solasfera are lain cerita.
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QUOTE(matrixation @ Jul 3 2017, 10:04 AM)
Finally, I have 90% decided on what specs I want:
a) 0.7 carat
b) GIA triple excellent
c) D-F colur
d) SI1 and above clarity

and saw 2 diamonds within this specs, @kambingkoh sifu, what is your opinion on them?

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You can actually see the inclusions in diamond 623 cuz of its SI1 clarity. From your drillz, I can easily spot 2 big inclusions: one on the east arrowhead and one on the west arrow shaft near the centre of the diamond. There are a couple more small ones scattered around the table.

Of course, these are relatively easy to spot cuz of its high magnification. Did you try and look at the inclusions with your naked eye? If you can find them, then I would advise you to drop this diamond cuz it is not eye clean.

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One more thing. There is no need to go until D colour if you are looking at super ideals. Cuz its fire, brilliance and scintillation will be able to effectively mask your diamond's body colour. Well, unless you flip your stone and look at it from the bottom, then lain cerita lahh. So my personal preference is E-F and maximise carat size.

Furthermore, there is a premium to pay for D colour.

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QUOTE(matrixation @ Jul 3 2017, 11:08 AM)
glad to hear that my understanding is sound!

yes I did look at both diamonds without magnification, and actually side by side, I can't tell the difference - but that will be likely due to my inexperience & the spotlights in the shop. I watched a JannPaul video, and diamonds without fully visible & symmetrical hearts and arrows will look very different (dull even) under natural light? So I'm worried to get diamond 623  rclxub.gif

any opinion/guidance on this?
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The most effective way to evaluate a diamond is not inside the jewellery shop with all the powerful lighting shining at you. You should either look at it under fluorescence lighting or daylight. But I doubt the salesperson would allow you to bring his diamonds outside of his shop. So that's why you have to depend on light performance scopes.
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QUOTE(matrixation @ Jul 3 2017, 05:18 PM)
1 more question if you don't mind - I've watched JannPaul videos on how to read Idealscope and ASET images, but all I get is look for red & black regions in idealscope, and white is not good as it signifies light leakages. and i don't get the difference between that and an ASET imageĀ  rclxub.gif
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For both ASET and Idealscope, the focus will be on the red parts of the image. The more red the merrier.

Personally, I prefer the ASET scope as it tells a more complete story about your diamond's light performance. It has 4 components: INTENSE light return, red; LESS INTENSE light return, green; contrast, blue; and light leakage, white. On the other hand, an Idealscope only has 3 components: light return, red; contrast, blue; and light leakage, white. Both INTENSE and LESS INTENSE light returns are coloured red, which is confusing. Too many green areas are not a good sign. It means that there are flaws in the cut.

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Here is an example:
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