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terminator2
post May 25 2014, 11:31 PM

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bro this is depression

i had it for a while

pass by a doctor
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post May 27 2014, 12:36 AM

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I believe you have either :

Suicidal ideation, or

Suicidal Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (SOCD)


You should see a psychiatrist, or psychologist.. The GP who simply told you
not to ''dwell on it'' is naive and knows little about the complex psychology of suicide.

Preferable see one who is trained in hypnosis. Dr Cheah Wing Yin in Sunway
Medical Center is one.


Suicidal ideation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicidal_ideation



People with OCD are at high risk of suicide.


Suicidal behavior in obsessive-compulsive disorder.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18052568



Suicide often not preceded by warnings.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/suicide...gs-201209245331



Suicide Obsessions: Fear of Killing/Harming Yourself.

http://www.steveseay.com/suicide-obsession...lling-yourself/




Some drugs, or sudden withdrawal from, particularly the SSRIs, can
also trigger off spontaneous suicide or suicidal thoughts.

Have you been on any of these drugs , such as Prozac, Zoloft or Effexor ?

Effexor, being an SNRI and blocks both serotonin and noradrenaline, is
in particular associated with a high risk of suicide on sudden withdrawal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venlafaxine#Suicide





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post May 27 2014, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(aiyah @ May 21 2014, 11:37 AM)
yep,i agreed with frontierzone -  how about those not-okay-things.  Eg. low self esteem issues? your own physical looks,many times hampers ones confidence,eg. like going bald(especially for men)can makes ones feels unconfident to go out and socialize. at times its bipolar and mood swing problems.  if you got killed in the battlefield against terrorist or talibans,at least you died as a hero and the country's flag would be drap on your casket but to commit suicide is indeed far more sad and very painfull for your loves one who are still alive and have to pick up the peices and move on - thats the most painfull.  when any one kill themselves,the pain is just very short for him/her but the pain endures by their loves ones can continues years after years - and that you call it grieving. my sis took her own life 2 years ago and at times,...its still quite fresh in my mind. its painfull,...very painfull. so dont do it and stop thinking of doing it and start anew with your life. you just got one shot at your life so try make it good  - TRY.
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yeah, TS may not be revealing what maybe troubling him.

Although I never have suicidal thoughts, but I read with great interest in this topic and would like to share some of my thoughts.

Firstly, it is possible TS have a medical condition that can be treated with drugs.

Secondly, I think relationships with friends and family play an very important role in a person's life in their motivation to live/die. How much other people care for and interact with the person and how much the person care for and interact with others will determine his outlook in life. That's why even TS mentioned that he felt better after interacting with those that responded to this tread. Although we are strangers, he may feel that there are people who cared enough to interact with him to encourage him not to commit suicide. Most of us work and do things not only for ourselves but also for our spouse/family and children. Our goal in life is to make people we care for be happy and in turn are happy when others does the same for us too. If this is missing, some people may feel an emptiness in life. People who do not feel appreciated are usually unhappy and unmotivated.
The reason some people may not have strong relationships or any relationships with others maybe because they lack social aptness but yet strongly desire social acceptance and this will cause unhappiness in them and may cause them to want to commit suicide.(or worse... going on a killing rampage before taking their own life)

Thirdly, it is also possible TS may have a psychological problem that maybe can be solved by understanding how TS see himself and the world. I find most people who commit suicide is because they cannot accept certain things in their life or that has happened in their. And this is usually tied to their expectations of an issue or multiple of issues or life in general. Acceptance is the key. A person not being able to accept what they have no control over eg how they look/their body shape is just setting themselves up for unhappiness. In terms of things we may have some control, we may try our best to achieve whatever we want/desire but if it doesn't turn out to be what we expect, acceptance must come in. Being able to move on is just as important.
Life is not perfect nor it is fair. Never has been and never will be. ACCEPT THAT. In life, shit happens and often we do not get to choose how we want things to turn out. But we can always try our best and be persistent. But if it doesn't happen, ACCEPT IT. Failure is part of life just as success is.

Lastly, I would like to ask TS wheather did he ask himself WHY does he think of suicide thoughts. And also ask himself WHY he may want to live until he is old. Does TS not have any goals/wishes in his life that he may want to achieve but has yet to?

We are all going to die anyway. To the suicidal person, he may say, why not sooner? But also, why not later? To me, at the very least, to indulge in life's little pleasures until your body cannot take it anymore.


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post May 27 2014, 02:32 PM

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At some point there's no harm at all to seek for professional help. The glance felling or dark whispering to suggest such multiple method of things that not suppose to do will pop up anytime, especially once you alone or not tied up with proper activities. Just have a good diversion and focus for what you do best.

Get social moderately and don't put too high expectation on others.
Filling your live with proper mix between routine daily task and good leisure.
Write down positive note and cherish with that. It's Ok to 'syok sendiri' sometime.
Feel free to have personal research toward certain psychology story, understanding the scenario and symptoms as well the way people tackle it. Just don't drag yourself toward mixed and match the findings that consequently reflecting yourself; just appreciate and enjoy of knowing things.
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post May 28 2014, 12:36 PM

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Just checking in, TS, you havent responded in the thread for a while now.

Hope all's well.
aiyah
post May 29 2014, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Clea @ May 28 2014, 11:45 AM)
And I have stopped counting how many times I've tried to tell you, probably I'm coming on wrong, I shall try again.
[/B]To Mr Lalabeng, the breakup is the end of the world. So if we subscribe to your beliefs, it is okay for him to commit suicide because [/B]he thinks[cool.gif that there is nothing more left for him to live for. What does your gut tell you?

We are not condemning the person, but the action of that person.

I'm not familiar with the case of Earl Silverman so I had to refrain from commenting much. But since you asked, I'll tell you. Do correct me if I get anything wrong.

Society screws people all the time. When you are living in a mud hut in the middle of the dessert with only a contaminated water supply and most of your freakin family died from dysentery or hunger or being eaten or whatever . Being beaten up by your wife doesn't sound so bad. Don't get me wrong. I respect people like Earl who actually tries to do something about it. But IMO he made an unwise decision. People fight for a cause, hopeless or not, because it is what they believe in. Probably a lot of those causes are silenced by the ruling body (government etc), religion or even the public unfavorable opinion. How does suicide help other than as an overkilled attempt to draw attention? I say again It is less about serving the cause and more to jumping out of the frying pan.
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Yeah, suicide or whether it is self-immolation will never help other/society - it will just prone the mental-instability to copy cat. Protester/activist can help the society by trying hard to create awareness, to deter depressed people from taking "shortcuts" or forced-shut-down.
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post May 29 2014, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(katoboi88 @ May 14 2014, 12:28 AM)
hey guys, im not sure if this is the right place for me to post, please let me know if i should move the topic somewhere else.

anyway, I have a problem, im not sure how long has it been but it is getting worse.

for the past several years, ive been having some suicidal thoughts, very vivid and on some episodes, i would even plan on how it would happen.

but all the suicidal thoughts would only last for at most one day, and the next day I would feel all OK.

but recently, the suicidal thoughts have been occurring more often, and it is getting worse, and it has become abit physical
There are some days that I would literally have to punch walls just to get rid of the thoughts.
everything I see, I would see it as one of the ways I can commit suicide. for example, when im on a balcony, Ill get an urge to jump off it.

The thing is, im scared that one day i might just do it spontaneously.

apart of me does not want to commit suicide, but the other part wants it so bad and lately the idea of committing suicide seems to be a very viable option

I guess what im asking from u guys, is that what can I do and what should I do? I know I should not commit suicide, but I am slowly starting to believe that suicide is a good option.

Just in case u guys need abit more information about me.

26 years old
graduated top of the class
comes from a good functional family
financially doing pretty decent
single
I have no intimacy issues (as far as i know)
working for an MNC company

Things Ive tried:

-Listing all the positive things in my life
-Positive thinking
-picked up a hobby (didnt turned out so well)
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post May 29 2014, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(spunkberry @ May 14 2014, 12:59 AM)
Depression is not a state of mind. Depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain.

A GP could refer you to a psychologist. You should ask.
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That is the answer to your question.
Depression is a serious issue and many people do not understand the consequences of this issue,At least in msia.
Psychologist is the one person that can help you but you should seek out to meet 3- or 4 of them.

That will give a better idea to your problem.

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