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post May 10 2014, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 10 2014, 10:49 AM)
lol, wait few months then i can tell u

if i kena  scam oso i can tell u, but danos are quite hard to get, dan is like imma feel like making guitar today then u can order.
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finger crossed you wont get scammed. lols fat chance!
the most sought after at least via pricing point would be blackmachine right?
jesus the price on them!
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post May 10 2014, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(pj_guitarist @ May 10 2014, 11:26 AM)
finger crossed you wont get scammed. lols fat chance!
the most sought after at least via pricing point would be blackmachine right?
jesus the price on them!
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yes for metalheads. but i can opt for other luthiers/CS that can offer more or less the same

i can see Carvins/Mayo heading that way
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QUOTE(pj_guitarist @ May 10 2014, 11:26 AM)
finger crossed you wont get scammed. lols fat chance!
the most sought after at least via pricing point would be blackmachine right?
jesus the price on them!
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i dont think so, the ones that command the most lub are still the "classics" (from a small builder POV) suhr, anderson etc etc

blacmachines are there cause as far as i know you cant order them now, so theres limited amount in the market and for every internet guy who goes around saying "OMFG this is an amazing guitar!" there will be some rich kid/dude out there that goes out and gets it with a fat cheque.

nice a not is entirely another subject matter.

so today i went and test the C22, its nice, one of the PRS tones that i can learn to like a bit. but strangely that guitar looks cheap, and the feel of it is like a huber (considering that huber works for PRS last time) and theres something missing to it. theres a nice mid range spike, better clarity than a gibson and warmer strat sound, but my mind keeps thinking its a poor mans huber.


my GAS went south almost immediately

im still thinking about it tho, the price is quite good
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post May 10 2014, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(pj_guitarist @ May 10 2014, 09:09 AM)
fml. i don't even think i'll be joining your mayones club to begin with.
hows the neck on those thing?
delicious to play?
diff to other superstrats necks?
vs charvel, jackson and ibanez wizards?
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The neck is amazing, for my taste at least, very very smooth and the thickness + radius just nice , very very accessible high frets . It's a setius its more like a prs than the regius . It's doesn't feel super thin like charvel/ jackson and ibanez , feels more .. sleek ? I prefer it to prestige 7 necks.
I suck at describing, but it's good . Can try in thailand i think they bring in ....

Other topics ,
Blackmachines are not only expensive but doug build ones are no longer available . (B2/B7 FF8)

The only ones available are B6s which are those swamp ash 6 strings . Build by Feline Guitars London with Doug. I think the waiting list is 1.5 years?

thats why soo many luthier shops are popping left right and centre making BM copies.

I don't think Dano will cabut with your money la.. The entire bernie rico jr episode has made everyone jumpy. For a right cause though.

Skerversen is pretty safe as they are going in the direction of Mayones / Carvin ( semi custom) .

I think extended wait times on customs are better than a rushed and botched job? The wait makes the first time you plug her in and make sweet love to here even better!





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post May 10 2014, 07:42 PM

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So many essays to read so little time!
Imma read this on my way to work tonight!
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post May 10 2014, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 10 2014, 05:08 PM)
so today i went and test the C22
this one ?
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post May 10 2014, 08:04 PM

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Any of u guys love those fender split head kluson style tuners?

So tedious to restring the B and e string. It keeps popping out
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QUOTE(lky88 @ May 10 2014, 06:46 PM)
The neck is amazing, for my taste at least, very very smooth and the thickness + radius just nice , very very accessible high frets . It's a setius its more like a prs than the regius . It's doesn't feel super thin like charvel/ jackson and ibanez , feels more .. sleek ? I prefer it to prestige 7 necks. 
I suck at describing, but it's good . Can try in thailand i think they bring in ....

Other topics ,
Blackmachines are not only expensive but doug build ones are no longer available . (B2/B7 FF8)

The only ones available are B6s which are those swamp ash 6 strings . Build by Feline Guitars London with Doug. I  think the waiting list is 1.5 years?

thats why soo many luthier shops are popping left right and centre making BM copies.

I don't think Dano will cabut with your money la.. The entire bernie rico jr episode has made everyone jumpy. For a right cause though.

Skerversen is pretty safe as they are going in the direction of Mayones / Carvin ( semi custom) .

I think extended wait times on customs are better than a rushed and botched job? The wait makes the first time you plug her in and make sweet love to here even better!
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not really boutiques cabut with peoples money, too long production time, false promises is more common than you think its normally the smaller ones that do it but still i can name a few off my head

even suhr had issues in meeting production promises

owh and since we are on the blackmachine topic, i saw this today

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Nearly every custom guitar I have ordered has missed the promised delivery date. A few times by only weeks. Twice by more than a year. The guys that missed dates by a few weeks all had legitimate reasons. On one a neck needed to be rebuilt because of wood issues. On another a shop flood delayed work for a month or so. Those were not major delays and both guitars are incredible pieces.

The first guitar delayed by over a year was a Blackmachine B2. I ordered a Mahogany body/rosewood neck guitar and the builder never started it for a year. He would tell me it was almost done when it had never been started. He would wait weeks to reply to my emails. Keep in mind he had a $2000 deposit and that was only 50%. When the guitar was finally done he sent me pictures and the guitar that he had built had a swamp ash body. He didn't seem to think this major spec deviation was a big deal and said I "would probably like the swamp ash more anyway." When I protested he said he could build a new guitar but the wait would be another year. I accepted a free case and the cost of shipping as a discount. When the guitar showed up it was dirty and there was a ton of white filler around the body binding. He had probably taken it to a trade show for everyone to play before shipping out. The routing was sloppy and the top had numerous sanding marks visible in the finish. In the end I would have rather had one of the nice Ibanez RGA models available at the time than the $4000 Blackmachine.

My Oni was delayed equally long because Dan had some health and workshop issues. We had to change materials because of CITES fears. At the very end of the build process I had to choose totally new electronics because the body was mistakenly drilled for 4 pots and a switch when I only wanted a single volume and 3-way switch. Ultimately Im happy that I have the extra controls because they make the guitar much more versatile but at the time it was frustrating. Dan's work is some of the best I have seen though and the guitar is fantastic. He ended up giving me a significant discount as well because of the wait and the build frustrations. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend him now that his workshop and build process is more streamlined.
QUOTE(regiuseven @ May 10 2014, 07:57 PM)
this one ?
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aye that one, quite good specs i dare say. looks green in real life

but something at the back of my head tells me something wrong is with that guitar

QUOTE(aneyekay1 @ May 10 2014, 08:04 PM)
Any of u guys love those fender split head kluson style tuners?

So tedious to restring the B and e string. It keeps popping out
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stirng your guitar as usual, but before you put the ends in, use a plier and twist the string to the direction you want to go in. then use your finger to press it down and turn

it will come out if you dont turn the string 90 degrees

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post May 10 2014, 08:21 PM

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how bout this one, rw neck

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post May 10 2014, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(regiuseven @ May 10 2014, 08:21 PM)
how bout this one, rw neck

add: pic below
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i saw a rosewood one not too long ago too, the one the hurt me the most was a PRS with whole brazilian RW neck.

sadly i bought another guitar cry.gif
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[quote=+3kk!,May 10 2014, 08:18 PM]
not really boutiques cabut with peoples money, too long production time, false promises is more common than you think its normally the smaller ones that do it but still i can name a few off my head

even suhr had issues in meeting production promises

owh and since we are on the blackmachine topic, i saw this today
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aye that one, quite good specs i dare say. looks green in real life

but something at the back of my head tells me something wrong is with that guitar
stirng your guitar as usual, but before you put the ends in, use a plier and twist the string to the direction you want to go in. then use your finger to press it down and turn

it will come out if you dont turn the string 90 degrees
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Really ? That blackmachine story sounds very dodgy as doug doesn't take requests for his build , only small stuff like pickups and bridges as choices.
His guitars are basically build to what he wants to achieve in a guitar ( from what I've heard from BM owners)

But yea, the world of custom guitars oh so appealing but the delays and inevitable ...
Problem is most luthiers are guitarist who build guitars, not businessmen = shitty shitty business models and overbooking and shit .


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QUOTE(lky88 @ May 10 2014, 08:49 PM)

Really ? That blackmachine story sounds very dodgy as doug doesn't take requests for his build , only small stuff like pickups and bridges as choices.
His guitars are basically build to what he wants to achieve in a guitar ( from what I've heard from BM owners)

But yea, the world of custom guitars oh so appealing but the delays and inevitable ...
Problem is most luthiers are guitarist who build guitars, not businessmen = shitty shitty business models and overbooking and shit .
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not really, a lot of them have got such stories..............................

its more common than you think, ive read stories of great reputable companies making guitars that suck balls. then suddenly everyones guitars sucked balls and no one can contact the boss of the co. its was THE headless guitar maker then.


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post May 10 2014, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 10 2014, 08:56 PM)
not really, a lot of them have got such stories..............................

its more common than you think, ive read stories of great reputable companies making guitars that suck balls. then suddenly everyones guitars sucked balls and no one can contact the boss of the co. its was THE headless guitar maker then.
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Yeah but initial 4k investment for bm. Is probably the fastest turnover for your money in modern guitars History.
Especially knowing that superstrats always dipped in price in secondhand value .

Btw anyone tries/owned caparisons?
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QUOTE(pj_guitarist @ May 10 2014, 10:13 PM)
Yeah but initial 4k investment for bm. Is probably the fastest turnover for your money in modern guitars History.
Especially knowing that superstrats always dipped in price in secondhand value .

Btw anyone tries/owned caparisons?
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not really

danocasters have a habit of going up in price once its bought, yea, people actually fight for it and it only lasts like 15 m ins before its snagged.

then again, such things only apply in america here u want to sell a blackmachine to msians? pifft
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 10 2014, 05:08 PM)


so today i went and test the C22, its nice, one of the PRS tones that i can learn to like a bit. but strangely that guitar looks cheap, and the feel of it is like a huber (considering that huber works for PRS last time) and theres something missing to it. theres a nice mid range spike, better clarity than a gibson and warmer strat sound, but my mind keeps thinking its a poor mans huber.
my GAS went south almost immediately

im still thinking about it tho, the price is quite good
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If the price is right..............

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post May 10 2014, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 10 2014, 10:17 PM)
not really

danocasters have a habit of going up in price once its bought, yea, people actually fight for it and it only lasts like 15 m ins before its snagged.

then again, such things only apply in america here u want to sell a blackmachine to msians? pifft
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Ahahaha i think bring to sg can right.
I saw the james tyler got snagged so fast wei.
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QUOTE(pj_guitarist @ May 10 2014, 10:22 PM)
Ahahaha i think bring to sg can right.
I saw the james tyler got snagged so fast wei.
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soft? theres damn lot of nice stuff there unsold

the guitar prices there drop liek no tml

but year the prs, the price is very right
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I'd buy a BM on moments notice.. ..
I can't imagine myself buying a boutique vintage guitar though, like LP or strat, like ever ever.
If i'm gonna spend 10k on a guitar I'd want it to be exactly what I like(modern) or really vintage stuff.


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post May 11 2014, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(lky88 @ May 10 2014, 10:42 PM)
I'd buy a BM on moments notice.. ..
I can't imagine myself buying a boutique vintage guitar though, like LP or strat, like ever ever.
If i'm gonna spend 10k on a guitar I'd want it to be exactly what I like(modern) or really vintage stuff.
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I am sensing our taste is not so diff.
Though i myself would get all types of guitars
Eg lp. Strat. Superstrats. Super lps lols.teles spr teles
Whats your take on caparisons though.

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QUOTE(pj_guitarist @ May 11 2014, 12:01 AM)
I am sensing our taste is not so diff.
Though i myself would get all types of guitars
Eg lp. Strat. Superstrats. Super lps lols.
Whats your take on caparisons though.
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Sad to say I've never tried them but
1. Superstrat
2. japanese
3. looks amazing
4. Japanese superstrat.

Would probably love them? Heard the necks are on the chunkier end of the skinny neck spectrum, which sounds like my sweet spot.

Did i mention awesome looking jap superstrats? hahaa
The 7 string horus really GAS-worthy

Pricey though ...

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