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Zot
post May 7 2014, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ May 7 2014, 04:27 PM)
This is an extremely stupid justification of maintaining Proton. You forget that before Dr M decided to start Proton as his pet project, many overseas car manufacturers were looking at making Malaysia their regional production hub - even with the goddamn 51% share nonsense. Why? Because we're more stable than Thailand. But no...we started up Proton so they all went to Thailand instead who welcomed them with open arms.

If it weren't for Proton, there will still be a thriving automotive industry here hiring hundreds of thousands of workers. However, the difference is that we'll all be driving Vios and City instead of those goddamn Sagas.

Better, no?
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post May 7 2014, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 7 2014, 04:23 PM)
Don't be too negative. All car mfr started with poorly designed car also. Some ppl says not feasible because small population, but the mat salleh told me that Sweden has much less population than Malaysia but Volvo is famous. Just need to improve the quality.
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We got fed up waiting for them to improve their quality after all these years. Should just cut off the protectionism and force competition on them. Sink or swim. Drastically improve their quality quickly or go bankrupt.
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post May 7 2014, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(andyyaosmurf @ May 7 2014, 04:27 PM)
The only question is..... is our market will have extra 250,000 jobs that ready for this group of people.
And let the bigger picture... anyone who related with proton will kena.. will lose their job too...
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post May 7 2014, 04:32 PM

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Just privatized it and stop feeding on this baby. It will never grow competitive in the industry if the mummy continue to feed.
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post May 7 2014, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 7 2014, 03:30 PM)
Find me a replacement car with tebocas engine lotus handling auto light auto wiper cruise control pedal shift 6 airbag esc reverse cam huge ass interior pls under 70k
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hell alot

due to protectism.....you are not seeing it
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post May 7 2014, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ May 7 2014, 04:18 PM)
A whole lot of cars - IF we didn't have that stupid tax and import duties protecting Proton.

OK, so there's no Lotus handling but what the fucuk gave you the idea that all Proton cars had Lotus handling anyway? The GTI was tuned by Lotus. Aside from that, Lotus kinda helped out in developing the handling for Proton but what about it? The average Proton handles worse than most Japanese cars in the same range.
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List down those cars please
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post May 7 2014, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 7 2014, 04:29 PM)
Yes, we get paid for the jobs but still colony country  smile.gif
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How different is that to having factories like Sony and Western Digital in this country?

I don't see Malaysia trying to make an impact in the consumer electronics sector, which really was what should have happened instead. We should have formed a company that could eventually become something like Samsung instead of wasting all our resources on Potong.

Mahathir does not have as much foresight as people give him credit for. whistling.gif
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post May 7 2014, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(andyyaosmurf @ May 7 2014, 03:27 PM)
The only question is..... is our market will have extra 250,000 jobs that ready for this group of people.
And let the bigger picture... anyone who related with proton will kena.. will lose their job too...
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Sell the factories to Volkswagen and let them produce whatever they want. Malaysia is a lot more stable than Thailand (Thai PM was just ousted a few hours ago and Thailand is on the brink of Civil war, plus Honda and Nissan factories were destroyed in the floods and there is no flood prevention system in place because of non functioning government). There problem solved.
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post May 7 2014, 04:33 PM

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Rename become ROTNOP. See back same car with new logo. Rebrand the rebadge. muahahaha.
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post May 7 2014, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(ChrisWeiYuan @ May 7 2014, 04:32 PM)
Just privatized it and stop feeding on this baby. It will never grow competitive in the industry if the mummy continue to feed.
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Errr.... Proton is a private company.

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 7 2014, 04:33 PM)
List down those cars please
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How about you list down which Proton car actually has Lotus Handling? Here I'll start:

Satria GTI.

Go on, any more? Which other Proton car actually has better handling than their Toyota and Honda counterparts?
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QUOTE(arubin @ May 7 2014, 04:31 PM)
We got fed up waiting for them to improve their quality after all these years. Should just cut off the protectionism and force competition on them. Sink or swim. Drastically improve their quality quickly or go bankrupt.
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Kalau kaya beli kereta lain...tak yah fedup. Nanti sakit sape susah....
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post May 7 2014, 04:35 PM

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Potong should be kolosed....
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post May 7 2014, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ May 7 2014, 04:34 PM)
How about you list down which Proton car actually has Lotus Handling? Here I'll start:

Satria GTI.

Go on, any more? Which other Proton car actually has better handling than their Toyota and Honda counterparts?
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Have u tried driving a Vios at speeds over 190? That thing floats like a boat
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post May 7 2014, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(arubin @ May 7 2014, 04:33 PM)
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How different is that to having factories like Sony and Western Digital in this country?

I don't see Malaysia trying to make an impact in the consumer electronics sector, which really was what should have happened instead. We should have formed a company that could eventually become something like Samsung instead of wasting all our resources on Potong.

Mahathir does not have as much foresight as people give him credit for. whistling.gif
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Sony WD ... same thing. People also used to laugh at Japanese product, then Taiwan, then China....Actually we are the focus of electronic industry first when Korea was not heard of. But then we are still working for foreign companies. They like us because we don't copy biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 7 2014, 04:37 PM)
Have u tried driving a Vios at speeds over 190? That thing floats like a boat
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Meh...

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 7 2014, 04:37 PM)
Have u tried driving a Vios at speeds over 190? That thing floats like a boat
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Proton doesn't float @ 190km/h?

My car was cruising at 200KM/h from KL to JB.
A white Vios tailgated my car from KL to Pagoh and it went past my car like a bawse after Pagoh.
Real story.

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post May 7 2014, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 7 2014, 04:37 PM)
Have u tried driving a Vios at speeds over 190? That thing floats like a boat
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The marketing says "The car that can fly you anywhere you want to go" smile.gif
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post May 7 2014, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 7 2014, 04:34 PM)
Errr.... Proton is a private company.

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But it still work like SOE style. Privatized as in wholly privatized.

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