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Saitama
post May 7 2014, 04:01 PM

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they should be crucified for selling shit to own people while the exports get better specs n price.
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post May 7 2014, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(MjMax15 @ May 7 2014, 03:49 PM)
Dont close it
Thousands will lose jobs

Instead, improve it
By major restructure from management to vendors

Whixh i see it..
Impossible
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I agree.

Though, I wonder what would happen to Proton without government's protection. hmm.gif
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post May 7 2014, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Reckoning @ May 7 2014, 03:34 PM)
nope. I dont want Proton to die.

What i want:
1. Proton to improve and be like Hyundai
2. Malaysia to release the crazy import car tax.

that is all.

I hate proton cars. but i want malaysia to have something.

I want proton to reboot and improve.
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I agree. It started out as a good dream but somehow in the middle got twisted in a lot of shit.

They could learn a thing or two form Perodua and others to be a global player. Also, please stop the protection thingy too and release all nonsensical taxes.
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post May 7 2014, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ May 7 2014, 04:00 PM)
or 2008 lancer or 2008 honda accord..  biggrin.gif
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post May 7 2014, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 7 2014, 04:04 PM)
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pls up to date on rebadge models la. biggrin.gif
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post May 7 2014, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(andyyaosmurf @ May 7 2014, 03:32 PM)
remember what mahatir say... if proton closed down.. 250,000 people in malaysia will lose their job..... no matter how rich you are, it de-finely hit your back sit....
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post May 7 2014, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(MjMax15 @ May 7 2014, 03:49 PM)
Dont close it
Thousands will lose jobs

Instead, improve it
By major restructure from management to vendors

Whixh i see it..
Impossible
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those lost the Proton jobs are disabled? Can't work in other factories? hmm.gif

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wilstroth
post May 7 2014, 04:10 PM

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1. Just remove the import tax on foreign cars.



Problem solved.
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post May 7 2014, 04:10 PM

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cheap foreign car? hahaha..still kena tax la..
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post May 7 2014, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ May 7 2014, 03:47 PM)
any other car without the tax
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Vios siti features tak banyak


QUOTE(ar188 @ May 7 2014, 03:56 PM)
if they cant convince export market to buy half their production, then what ever they do also will be dead end also, cos they dont have the production numbers to lower cost and enjoy economies of scale.
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Thats for Proton to take care, not for end buyer
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post May 7 2014, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 7 2014, 04:13 PM)
Vios siti features tak banyak
Thats for Proton to take care, not for end buyer
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soon your car will join the fate of the other 2.. biggrin.gif then maybe you might reconsider your view..
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post May 7 2014, 04:15 PM

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you should be asking whether if proton is sustainable against real market competition
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QUOTE(kakakkiwi @ May 7 2014, 03:35 PM)
jangan persoal!
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Yaaa ... You tak suka jangan beli. Banyak lagi orang mahu beli
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Need to rearrange the sentence:
Put the "we" in front and remove the question mark brows.gif
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post May 7 2014, 04:17 PM

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Closed it. I couldnt care-less about the few hundred K not working in Protos. They can't find other job unless they are impotent XD.

This is business, if you are not up to the competition. Wind-up, nuff said.
Perodua is doing great but not Proton and why so? Always blame ppl not supportive enough, we pay a large sum for it, and more higher than they export it to other countries, wafak.
I really can't brain their level of thinking that you can blame the ppl for not buying your products.....lol....
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 7 2014, 03:30 PM)
Find me a replacement car with tebocas engine lotus handling auto light auto wiper cruise control pedal shift 6 airbag esc reverse cam huge ass interior pls under 70k
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A whole lot of cars - IF we didn't have that stupid tax and import duties protecting Proton.

OK, so there's no Lotus handling but what the fucuk gave you the idea that all Proton cars had Lotus handling anyway? The GTI was tuned by Lotus. Aside from that, Lotus kinda helped out in developing the handling for Proton but what about it? The average Proton handles worse than most Japanese cars in the same range.
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post May 7 2014, 04:18 PM

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close proton
open more toyota, honda, chevy, vw, mazda....

create more jobs, more exports, more income
create competitive market, better quality, global car price

then only u create national car to compete against these players (if capable)

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post May 7 2014, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(andyyaosmurf @ May 7 2014, 02:32 PM)
remember what mahatir say... if proton closed down.. 250,000 people in malaysia will lose their job..... no matter how rich you are, it de-finely hit your back sit....
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Because of this stupid proton protection policy people are having to take out 9 year loans on their cars and seriously damages their purchasing power. The lack of public transport basically makes a car mandatory for living in most of Malaysia. If people have a higher purchasing power and aren't burdened with the stupid car loans then people will begin to spend more money and the economy will boom and these 250,000 people can just find other jobs in other car showrooms or a variety of different industries.
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post May 7 2014, 04:23 PM

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Don't be too negative. All car mfr started with poorly designed car also. Some ppl says not feasible because small population, but the mat salleh told me that Sweden has much less population than Malaysia but Volvo is famous. Just need to improve the quality.
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QUOTE(andyyaosmurf @ May 7 2014, 03:32 PM)
remember what mahatir say... if proton closed down.. 250,000 people in malaysia will lose their job..... no matter how rich you are, it de-finely hit your back sit....
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This is an extremely stupid justification of maintaining Proton. You forget that before Dr M decided to start Proton as his pet project, many overseas car manufacturers were looking at making Malaysia their regional production hub - even with the goddamn 51% share nonsense. Why? Because we're more stable than Thailand. But no...we started up Proton so they all went to Thailand instead who welcomed them with open arms.

If it weren't for Proton, there will still be a thriving automotive industry here hiring hundreds of thousands of workers. However, the difference is that we'll all be driving Vios and City instead of those goddamn Sagas.

Better, no?

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