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arubin
post May 7 2014, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 7 2014, 03:30 PM)
Find me a replacement car with tebocas engine lotus handling auto light auto wiper cruise control pedal shift 6 airbag esc reverse cam huge ass interior pls under 70k
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A whole lot of cars - IF we didn't have that stupid tax and import duties protecting Proton.

OK, so there's no Lotus handling but what the fucuk gave you the idea that all Proton cars had Lotus handling anyway? The GTI was tuned by Lotus. Aside from that, Lotus kinda helped out in developing the handling for Proton but what about it? The average Proton handles worse than most Japanese cars in the same range.
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post May 7 2014, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(andyyaosmurf @ May 7 2014, 03:32 PM)
remember what mahatir say... if proton closed down.. 250,000 people in malaysia will lose their job..... no matter how rich you are, it de-finely hit your back sit....
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This is an extremely stupid justification of maintaining Proton. You forget that before Dr M decided to start Proton as his pet project, many overseas car manufacturers were looking at making Malaysia their regional production hub - even with the goddamn 51% share nonsense. Why? Because we're more stable than Thailand. But no...we started up Proton so they all went to Thailand instead who welcomed them with open arms.

If it weren't for Proton, there will still be a thriving automotive industry here hiring hundreds of thousands of workers. However, the difference is that we'll all be driving Vios and City instead of those goddamn Sagas.

Better, no?
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post May 7 2014, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 7 2014, 04:23 PM)
Don't be too negative. All car mfr started with poorly designed car also. Some ppl says not feasible because small population, but the mat salleh told me that Sweden has much less population than Malaysia but Volvo is famous. Just need to improve the quality.
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We got fed up waiting for them to improve their quality after all these years. Should just cut off the protectionism and force competition on them. Sink or swim. Drastically improve their quality quickly or go bankrupt.
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post May 7 2014, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 7 2014, 04:29 PM)
Yes, we get paid for the jobs but still colony country  smile.gif
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How different is that to having factories like Sony and Western Digital in this country?

I don't see Malaysia trying to make an impact in the consumer electronics sector, which really was what should have happened instead. We should have formed a company that could eventually become something like Samsung instead of wasting all our resources on Potong.

Mahathir does not have as much foresight as people give him credit for. whistling.gif
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post May 7 2014, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 7 2014, 04:33 PM)
List down those cars please
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How about you list down which Proton car actually has Lotus Handling? Here I'll start:

Satria GTI.

Go on, any more? Which other Proton car actually has better handling than their Toyota and Honda counterparts?
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post May 7 2014, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 7 2014, 04:37 PM)
Have u tried driving a Vios at speeds over 190? That thing floats like a boat
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And which Proton can even hit that speed? If they do, how is their handling? rolleyes.gif

Let's not count the GTI, because I can than rope the Celica into the picture.
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post May 7 2014, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 7 2014, 04:39 PM)
Sony WD ... same thing. People also used to laugh at Japanese product, then Taiwan, then China....Actually we are the focus of electronic industry first when Korea was not heard of. But then we are still working for foreign companies. They like us because we don't copy  biggrin.gif
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And how is it now? How many world-class and renowned companies do we have?

People were laughing at Proton cars before, and they still are. When are Proton going to stop being the laughing stock? How long more do we have to wait? Its been 20+ years.
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post May 7 2014, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ May 7 2014, 04:54 PM)
That is what I'm saying. Then what we should do? Even in the US they have to campaign on TV for American to buy US Made because competition from Japanese product  nod.gif
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Force Proton to get off their lazy pampered bums and actually be competitive instead. No more free lunch for them.
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post May 7 2014, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 7 2014, 05:11 PM)
Lol I posted here so many times. I have reached that speed with 6 people in the car, and those passengers didnt even notice the speed
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Oh, so your Suprima S issit? Shouldn't be competing with Vios already liddat.

Try Ford Focus.
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post May 7 2014, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ May 7 2014, 05:08 PM)
so if Proton closes down, will /ktards support their families since they don't have jobs anymore?

Or you rather let them rot in the streets/rampant crime/rempitz?

Or you just think about yourselves only?

inb4 i dont care
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Memang dun care. Who ask them to make car like sampah? whistling.gif

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