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Should we close down Proton?
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ar188
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May 7 2014, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 7 2014, 03:30 PM) Find me a replacement car with tebocas engine lotus handling auto light auto wiper cruise control pedal shift 6 airbag esc reverse cam huge ass interior pls under 70k if they cant convince export market to buy half their production, then what ever they do also will be dead end also, cos they dont have the production numbers to lower cost and enjoy economies of scale.
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ar188
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May 7 2014, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 7 2014, 03:59 PM) Toyoi, please attach Mitsubishi Lancer produced in 1983. or 2008 lancer or 2008 honda accord..
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ar188
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May 7 2014, 04:05 PM
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 7 2014, 04:04 PM) Mitsubishi Lancer 1990s.  pls up to date on rebadge models la.
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ar188
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May 7 2014, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ May 7 2014, 04:13 PM) Vios siti features tak banyak Thats for Proton to take care, not for end buyer soon your car will join the fate of the other 2..  then maybe you might reconsider your view..
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ar188
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May 7 2014, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ May 7 2014, 06:09 PM) KIA Hyundai took almost 50 years wor. same crap? 2014 Suprima = 1986 Saga? now only I noe. if you cant keep up with technology then you shouldnt be in it..
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ar188
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May 7 2014, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ May 7 2014, 06:17 PM) What technology would you like to see in an entry level car?
u dont get it, preve and suprima is their flagship car, best effort on their own.. while vios and city is just entry level Asean B segment.. so if they cant even outdo vios and city in Asean acceptance.. what is there to say?
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ar188
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May 7 2014, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(bereev @ May 7 2014, 06:21 PM) first thing first ..... are Malaysian love their country like Japan and Korean ??? technology products why need to love country? no logic, you got buy 1malaysia android pad or not?
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ar188
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May 7 2014, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ May 7 2014, 06:22 PM) I don't disagree with the Proton quality argument. I am asking what Technology does other C-segments have that Suprima/Preve does not? And then consider the resources Proton has to market their cars overseas, notwithstanding the subpar quality. They can't even market their cars properly in Malaysia. sure.. how many engine options does it have? for starters got memory seats? got sunroof? got class leading KM/L figures? got JD power high rankings?
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ar188
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May 7 2014, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ May 7 2014, 06:32 PM) Memory seats and sunroof consider high tech? Are they more difficult to implement than a new drivetrain? stability control? chassis design? On engine options, again, how much resources does Proton have to maintain several engine production lines considering their market share? FC-wise I don't disagree, but neither do kimchis. basically every thing comes together and the end results are there to see.. you cant handle customer's demands in different regions how u gonna sell in volume which includes domestic and export market? and if you dont see a mass market product in volume, your cost is gonna shoot up and become unprofitable.. so it's gonna be a downward spiral..
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ar188
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May 7 2014, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ May 7 2014, 06:37 PM) You know I don't really disagree with you. My questions was simply about technology since you brought it up. I understand where you are getting at.  seriously to be in the game of making and selling cars requires to juggle so many aspect.. so if really kennot.. then is kennot liao.. (last time super demand for wira, I remember like 50k 1.6XLi in 1993 also can sell few K extra after used 1year) i think those years have passed.. so I dun mind, if lancer rebadge is 50-60k.. i also will support wan This post has been edited by ar188: May 7 2014, 06:40 PM
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ar188
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May 7 2014, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ May 7 2014, 06:50 PM) Last time Buy Wira got 1 year waiting period  yeah la.. i still remember.. like kena lottery..  but dat time, really pricing is good and specs meet the market conditions..
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