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4 Critical Signs of a Bubble Market V6, Signs are already there in Malaysia
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bcpbeancounter
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May 16 2014, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(Anon_1986 @ May 16 2014, 03:47 PM) Actually my view is that timing cannot be predicted, only the general trend can be reliably identified. People should diversify because the future is always less certain than you think it is. The exact manner that central banks responded to the subprime crisis gave us our current property market. What's relevant is also BNM's response to their monetary easing. If they made different decisions or executed poorly, you may have lost big on property instead of made big. Those who recognize that meteoric rises and devastating crashes are more unpredictable than they appear will choose to diversify rather than gamble on uncertainty. It's fine to hold a bit of property, even today, as long as you also have other assets. They will miss the meteoric rises but they will also avoid devastating crashes. Permabulls who choose not to think always make money if the tide swings up. Permabears who choose not to think also make money if the tide swings down. Only one can be lucky at a time. so how to diversify?
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bcpbeancounter
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May 16 2014, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 16 2014, 04:00 PM) Permabulls=BBB permabears= DDD In actual fact BBB are greedy.. greedy?
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bcpbeancounter
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May 16 2014, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 16 2014, 04:10 PM) Prop investment is good in a pace b4 not this pace.. wen owners agents whack the privce so high above.. they at end kill themselves.. they are mere greedy.. in d past or even now 50k to 100 gross profit is still profit.. sadly the margins changes to feed agents and greedy owners.. expected profit is now50% above.. QUOTE(timesrun @ May 16 2014, 04:15 PM) Yeah, clever...let them put higher first... haha why you tell them..  nobody pointing a gun on you to buy right? why you bother? malaysia still a willing selling willing buyer market right?
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bcpbeancounter
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May 16 2014, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 16 2014, 04:05 PM) Lu cakap setengah hari, didn't see u mentioned any facts & figure also Malaysia black money is second highest in the world after China.  what is the black money impact to the prop market?
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bcpbeancounter
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May 16 2014, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ May 16 2014, 07:04 PM) Very good question and will have many answers  I am just curious what other investment we can have when prop is considered as high risk.
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bcpbeancounter
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May 17 2014, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 17 2014, 08:20 AM) Yup hoping for landed.. for new units very limited and expensive... mb will try high rise in those areas for semenyih.. mb not.. there are lot of choice still in kajang With 500k budget, i will go for 2nd hand landed at this area. Just make sure spend a little bit more on grill, cctv and alarm.
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bcpbeancounter
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May 17 2014, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 17 2014, 07:03 PM) During bull run, almost every punters are winning. However few survive at the end. You rely on forum to do your thesis? No wonder people say our young graduate's standard drop. I hav so far never see anyone fail in prop investment.
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bcpbeancounter
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May 18 2014, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 18 2014, 12:09 PM) Alternate investment is stock market e.g genting, maybank, public bank, etc. Current mys property market is idea for study of behaviour economic. Property market in china started to crumble but has yet to effect tycoon. Historically, whenever students and obasans enter market for a quick profit mean the end of bull run is near. You said prop bubble pop soon and advise people buy share? Klci at all time high le!!! No bubble? Share market pop, you left with a piece of toilet paper. Prop at least u hav tangible assets. You are real "student". Green green. Real world is dangerous. Uni is a good place to hide.
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bcpbeancounter
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May 18 2014, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 18 2014, 06:50 PM) High cocr means high gearing or leverage. We were referring alternative investment 40 years ago. If one invested in genting shares 40 years ago, the gain is probably higher than property. If one invested in a banglow house at bangsar 40 years ago, today he is a multi millionaire. Anyway, why talk 40 years ago? Tomorrow morning should an investor buy genting share or property?
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bcpbeancounter
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May 18 2014, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 18 2014, 06:55 PM) Wrong ! Property pop u end up a butt of debt, properties bought using borrowed money with interest, share buy with cash, many flippers can't even hold for 6 months after VP as they die die borrowed to max & hold multiple units. Yes some can hold but those r like share end up with PN4 still don't want to let go type, probably pass to next generation, these r non of our concerns. We target weak holding power which the market r full of it, these is the bunch will bring the property market tumbling down. Share u might lose cash money & if u willing to cut lost at worst just a fraction of ur money, Property bought using borrowed money for next 35 years, if u lost & bank lelong less than ur debt u end up hutang kao2 or bankrupt. Talk so much, only 1 question. What is contra?
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bcpbeancounter
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May 19 2014, 08:56 AM
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Theory is always correct, just that theory has a lot of "if". When apply, need to consider many factors and to master, need to know all theory involve.
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bcpbeancounter
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May 20 2014, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 20 2014, 03:47 PM) no worries, if Malaysia has such things, China will send their armies here to Malaysia, you will see more high end jet fighters such as Sukhois MKI-35, J-10 fighters, J-35, air craft carriers red guard armies, in Malaysia, mb you see Singaporean too.. You really hate malaysia ho? You singaporean? Don't like that le...KLCC runtuh, singapore won't be good too.
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bcpbeancounter
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May 20 2014, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 20 2014, 10:18 PM) Transaction down.. and drop in price in green terraine condo is not effective? multiple loan rejects causing more drop out units is not effective? Paying gov 30% of your gross profit is no one feeld anyting.. BLR increasing in 2 weeks speculated dont incur more cost monthly? Loan reject cause slower in sales and price stagnant, not drop. Dont be too excited with the 10k 20k drop la...when increase is 50k 100k! When there is profit, what is the problem with paying tax? Many people already tax at 26%, what to do? Tell the boss cut the pay so that dont be tax so much? Interest increase 0.25% is peanut. I just need to eat chap fan for 1 week end wil save me the amount. What is problem? Stop talking about green terrain please.
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bcpbeancounter
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May 20 2014, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 20 2014, 11:00 PM) So CONFIRM DROPPING YA? effective or not? You say drop from 550 to 535 mah? Still need me to confirm meh??? To me, it is nothing. Quite common for a price diff by 10k -20k. High floor qnd low floor, facing klcc etc will give you these diff. Told you don be so excited lo...when drop to 300k then only celebrate ok? You regreted last time not buying from developer le....aiyo...buy other la. Your saville kajang still hav some units mah... This post has been edited by bcpbeancounter: May 20 2014, 11:09 PM
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bcpbeancounter
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May 20 2014, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 20 2014, 11:09 PM) You are right to say that.. despite 490k was purely on my comments confirmation.. with drops coming in to play.. target switches.. areas same.. Any tips? Yik ha kai fong le...
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bcpbeancounter
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May 20 2014, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 20 2014, 11:16 PM) I m sueveying geh.. no worries.. even DDD also dun want market die.. like bukit beruntung and lembah beringin.. But ho...some people say price drop feng sui no good. Especially auction prop...sure suai xiao! So sonetimes buy expensive better....hmm...
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bcpbeancounter
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May 21 2014, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ May 21 2014, 10:20 AM) A large chunk of consumers spending is by gen y. After gen y started loan repayment on overpriced property, unless there is a substantial income increased, disposable income will be less and almost certain to have negative impact on consumers spending and aggregate economy. Alternatively, gen y could borrow more to spend. How can a gen x earning 10k spend less than a gen y who earn 5k?
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bcpbeancounter
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May 21 2014, 12:01 PM
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ May 21 2014, 11:02 AM) Q1 2014 still strong based on sales of - Tropicana Heights - South Bank - Residency V - MHK Projects QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 21 2014, 11:24 AM) QUOTE(cfa28 @ May 21 2014, 11:49 AM) with so many new launches, sub-sales should be slower as sub-sales need more cash upfront These are not new launch projects meh? So fast sub sales?
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bcpbeancounter
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May 21 2014, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ May 21 2014, 01:37 PM) Stylish? Single storey RM700k is small and in poor Taman. I don't think it is stylish. If genY, maybe condo gua. a condo near to office or "luxury" landed far away from office. I think difference people have difference choice. How luxury can it be for a 700k landed in KV? got swimming pool?
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bcpbeancounter
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May 21 2014, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ May 21 2014, 01:48 PM) yup my bad my wrong geny and x are fond to newly service apartments, condos.. size doesnt matter.. stylish life yes.. you also gen y le..
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