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English Clubs Manchester United Street Talks, Welcome to United, LvG & Thanks, Giggsy!

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limjenson
post May 4 2014, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(ashportal @ May 4 2014, 12:34 AM)
And we expect Shaw and Llana to join us with this shitty performance? lel  laugh.gif
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We are hoping that an autograph photo of giggs would seal the deal.
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QUOTE(limjenson @ May 4 2014, 12:25 AM)
1) Exactly. Nothing to play for so why not play the youngsters. They are the future. Giggs was played as a youngster as well.
2) He needs to keep playing and impresses Wilmot to have a chance. Not playing because of fear of injuries doesn't makes his chances of getting on the squad any better.
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I don't disagree about playing youngsters. One thing that I'm a bit surprised about with Giggs is that he has immediately used the 3 old defenders since taking over.
1st game at home = OK I get his point about wanting their experience in an emotional point in time for the club.
2nd game at home = Not willing to even change 1 of them to give a younger player more salt? More than Januzaj, this part bothers me. Vidic already confirmed going. Has Rio really been much better than the younger CBs we have? LB if nobody rates Buttner even when Evra is defensively not "there" anymore then I guess he is being sold soon.

CM = After looking at Carrick and Fletcher struggle today, probably best if the 2 are rotated instead of paired. Cleverley to partner? (hehehe)

Wings = Admittedly a bit stunned to see Young starting, but at least he was on the RW and not so horrible. But then he got shifted to the left (w.t.f. haven't we seen this enough already). Maybe Giggs wanted Nani on the right after seeing the team play for awhile. But then if so why sub Nani out later? Januzaj in for Young on the LW might have been better. Idk. All I know is Young on the LW hurts the eyes, brains, and heart.

Strikers = He wanted to give Chicharito minutes, but maybe starting him was a bit too much.

20/20 hindsight though.
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post May 4 2014, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(sunblaze @ May 4 2014, 12:28 AM)
Problem is:
1) Vidic already decided to go to Inter
2) Evra is always awesome going forward, but defensively he has been giving heart-attacks for around 2 years now. Keep him as a LW? hehehe
3) Out of the 3 big defensive seniors (Vidic/Rio/Evra), does anyone think Rio has been the best this season in terms of performance standards and attitude? If not, would keeping him be good or would it be compromising on standards?

Boils down to the next manager and his plans. Hopefully it's LVG or someone with experience and the skill to make the right choice(s).
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Bar Vidic, if United simply discards "old players" just because of their age would cause more instability. I was referring to a post saying the old players should be kicked out. I still think Evra could become part of squad but maybe not first choice. Rio well maybe he is close to retirement anyway.

If anything I would like to see change of playing style rather than wholechange of personnel. Southampton managed to do good without so called world class players. If somehow United could combine intricate passing style with better first touches and ball retention with the SAF agressive counternattack way i would be great. The only team that is close to that idea now is Real Madrid for me. Play with width and good passing and ball retention. Good counter attack when chance arises.
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QUOTE(gr8fr8 @ May 4 2014, 12:38 AM)
Bar Vidic, if United simply discards "old players" just because of their age would cause more instability. I was referring to a post saying the old players should be kicked out. I still think Evra could become part of squad but maybe not first choice. Rio well maybe he is close to retirement anyway.

If anything I would like to see change of playing style rather than wholechange of personnel. Southampton managed to do good without so called world class players. If somehow United could combine intricate passing style with better first touches and ball retention with the SAF agressive counternattack way i would be great. The only team that is close to that idea now is Real Madrid for me. Play with width and good passing and ball retention. Good counter attack when chance arises.
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That's the sad part. Between Vidic, Rio, and Evra, Vidic would have been the choice to keep. Why? Attitude and commitment didn't waver, even after he has announced he is going to Inter we can see he still cares. Sure some of his tackles are bad, but at least you know his mind is right. Evra would be second. Effort is solid, attacking he is awesome. Just that defensively he is poor. Keep him as a LW @ 2nd choice LB (would he even accept that?). I won't say anymore about Rio (the oldest of the 3, and sadly the one who has shown the least in terms of form).
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A season to forget as the commentator said couldnt sum it all better.

Vidic deserves alot of respect for playing the way he did knowing he was leaving for inter.
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post May 4 2014, 01:13 AM

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Yay, city in front LOL
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post May 4 2014, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(sunblaze @ May 4 2014, 12:37 AM)
I don't disagree about playing youngsters. One thing that I'm a bit surprised about with Giggs is that he has immediately used the 3 old defenders since taking over.
1st game at home = OK I get his point about wanting their experience in an emotional point in time for the club.
2nd game at home = Not willing to even change 1 of them to give a younger player more salt? More than Januzaj, this part bothers me. Vidic already confirmed going. Has Rio really been much better than the younger CBs we have? LB if nobody rates Buttner even when Evra is defensively not "there" anymore then I guess he is being sold soon.

CM = After looking at Carrick and Fletcher struggle today, probably best if the 2 are rotated instead of paired. Cleverley to partner? (hehehe)

Wings = Admittedly a bit stunned to see Young starting, but at least he was on the RW and not so horrible. But then he got shifted to the left (w.t.f. haven't we seen this enough already). Maybe Giggs wanted Nani on the right after seeing the team play for awhile. But then if so why sub Nani out later? Januzaj in for Young on the LW might have been better. Idk. All I know is Young on the LW hurts the eyes, brains, and heart.

Strikers = He wanted to give Chicharito minutes, but maybe starting him was a bit too much.

20/20 hindsight though.
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which is why i think LVG would be a good thing.
those that are past their prime would need to go then bring up the youngsters we already have.
problem with the dressing room is some still not united with many differing thoughts.
need someone to come in and really have the "balls" to clean house.

saf did it when he first came in....even such a decorated player like mark hughes had to go to accommodate saf's vision and playing style....which is why people usually say he is ruthless.

moyes try to do a slow evolution and being a nice guy, it didn't turn out well.
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QUOTE(zenix @ May 4 2014, 01:19 AM)
which is why i think LVG would be a good thing.
those that are past their prime would need to go then bring up the youngsters we already have.
problem with the dressing room is some still not united with many differing thoughts.
need someone to come in and really have the "balls" to clean house.

saf did it when he first came in....even such a decorated player like mark hughes had to go to accommodate saf's vision and playing style....which is why people usually say he is ruthless.

moyes try to do a slow evolution and being a nice guy, it didn't turn out well.
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Yep, agreed! Hope for good news in the coming days thumbup.gif

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post May 4 2014, 01:36 AM

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dont think giggs should really be blamed.. its only his 2nd game. expecting him to do magic at this stage is a bit too much to ask. players again play below par.. main mcm xde mood also..

GGMC!!




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QUOTE(onepack @ May 4 2014, 01:36 AM)
dont think giggs should really be blamed.. its only his 2nd game. expecting him to do magic at this stage is a bit too much to ask. players again play below par.. main mcm xde mood also..
GGMC!!
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too much holes in the link up play.
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QUOTE(sunblaze @ May 4 2014, 12:24 AM)
1) You're assuming Mourinho would want it after being ignored for Moyes. His ego is big to begin with.
2) Mourinho is famous for defensive (but effective) football and generally trusting older players more than youth (barring 1-2 exceptions).
3) Treble winner manager already planned to step down at the end of last season, no? Even now it seems he is happily retired. It was only when Bayern looked like winning the treble that the fuss in the press about keeping him vs bringing Pep on became a popular topic.
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1. Yes, I am assuming personal gesture of SAF himself comes knocking his door as the people he respects is enough to deal with his ego.

2. Football nowadays is expecting consistent results in instant way, IF it needs older players who can deliver consistent result so be it, do you think currently fans have the patience anyway, if fans at this thread becomes the parameter, it is already out of question. Though those barred exceptions should extends to larger numbers if you've been following his career.

3. The answer is no. Uli Hoeness their former president said that Heynckes' departure was forced by agreement the club has with Pep.

QUOTE(onepack @ May 4 2014, 01:36 AM)
dont think giggs should really be blamed.. its only his 2nd game. expecting him to do magic at this stage is a bit too much to ask. players again play below par.. main mcm xde mood also..

GGMC!!
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so sad to know beating Sunderland at Old Trafford is considered as a magic now.
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post May 4 2014, 03:30 AM

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QUOTE(epie_v12 @ May 4 2014, 02:37 AM)
butthut fan munyit.......u support man city??why last season u all say man city like b**** or .@!#@!3...n now u support man city.....u are now 7rd place......next season u are not qualify for ucl.....lol.....wat a stupid...last game lost with sunderland...lol......go to cave lol.....bye2 good luck for next season...hope next season do like this....
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who is this illiterate and dumbass come from? Can't even string up a proper post. 7rd? What the hell?? So what if we finished 7th? Try getting 20 EPL titles 1st before spewing ur shit here~

and yeah, you could only hope we slip again next year. Cause only then your team can be in contention for the title. ptuuuiiiii~
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QUOTE(drewn123 @ May 4 2014, 04:30 AM)
who is this illiterate and dumbass come from? Can't even string up a proper post. 7rd? What the hell?? So what if we finished 7th? Try getting 20 EPL titles 1st before spewing ur shit here~

and yeah, you could only hope we slip again next year. Cause only then your team can be in contention for the title. ptuuuiiiii~
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oit oit dont be like those pool fans praising their 5 'CL'
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QUOTE(epie_v12 @ May 4 2014, 02:37 AM)
butthut fan munyit.......u support man city??why last season u all say man city like b**** or .@!#@!3...n now u support man city.....u are now 7rd place......next season u are not qualify for ucl.....lol.....wat a stupid...last game lost with sunderland...lol......go to cave lol.....bye2 good luck for next season...hope next season do like this....
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manusia mana pulak benci sgt kat man utd ni
mentally retard btol

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post May 4 2014, 06:23 AM

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Wow some people are just so negative early in the morning eh?

Anyway, next match at home is against Hull who just qualified for Europa League. Congratulation to Hull City!
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What a weird night, Man Utd fan support Man City while Liverpool fan support Everton
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Sunderland played really really well though. Could have been a 0-3.
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post May 4 2014, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(onepack @ May 4 2014, 01:36 AM)
dont think giggs should really be blamed.. its only his 2nd game. expecting him to do magic at this stage is a bit too much to ask. players again play below par.. main mcm xde mood also..

GGMC!!
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Sure the team let him down but he picked the team and set up the tactics. If you think Giggs shouldn't be blamed, then you should be against Moyes being sacked.

Any manager that picks Young and loses the match just sets himself up to be blamed.
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Wayne Rooney could be lining up with Zlatan Ibrahimovic for Paris Saint-Germain if French club pay £35m for Man Utd star

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Paris Saint-Germain will consider a summer move for Wayne Rooney.
Should Louis van Gaal's appointment as Manchester United manager go through this week, Rooney’s future at the club will be cast into doubt.
Already there have been rumours Rooney is worried about his prospects if the Dutchman gets the job.

With van Gaal in charge Robin van Persie, who was set to quit the club in the summer, is likely to be persuaded to stay.
And van Gaal, who will manage Van Persie with Holland at the World Cup, is set to make his compatriot the main man up front and perhaps even offer him the captaincy.
With other forwards likely to be signed, Rooney could well face a struggle for a place in the starting line-up.
Certainly his nose will be put out of joint just a few months after committing his future to United on a massive £300,000-a-week deal.
But that deal means that the club will now be able to command a decent price for Rooney – had he not signed then his fee would have dipped under the £10million mark this summer, given that he only has a year left on his contract

But United could ask for around £35m for the 28-year-old England striker.
Chelsea are unlikely to be interested any longer and no other English club would want to meet Rooney’s transfer fee and wages. PSG though would, despite them facing sanctions from UEFA (in the Champions League) under Financial Fair Play regulations.
The ambitious French club were poised to make a move for Rooney in January but United decided to meet his pay demands.
It is believed the player is reluctant to leave the Premier League but a move to PSG may prove his best option if he is no longer central to Van Gaal’s plans.
In the meantime, Rooney is battling to be fit for the World Cup.
It is feared a lingering groin injury which has kept him out of action could actually be a hernia problem which requires surgery.


How about a Rooney+10mil Cavani swap deal eh? I fancy Cavani's workrate as a forward, quite similar to Rooney cool2.gif

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