Best deadlift instruction for you guys. Perfect leverage. Good luck.

Lazy to watch that video as too many version of teaching deadlift. Different people teaching different method. And what they teach sometime couldn't apply when it comes to real lifting.

Maybe you are right but I'm doing good with the bar slightly touching my shin during my deadlift. And I have no problem in progressing at the moment. As I mentioned, you can't expect the same method/form for all different body type. That's why they suggest sumo deadlift for people with long torso and short arm. Every single exercise works differently for everyone and we have to find out the best way that allow you to lift heavy without injuring yourself.

i appreciate you guys' discussion. this is the last form video i took 2months ago:



i scrapped my shins and the bar moved in the straight line, witih rear delts above the bar. if what the guy in the Animal video said is true, then i sholdd let my shins more upright and this causes the hips to be higher than my iriginal position?

between i have a similar log in bb.com and people there said that my deads form is quite good.

18/8/2014 Workout A Week 14



-everything looks goog
-went to gym with ma friend. he ctiticised my skinny calves. hence the extra set on calf raises lel. the last set burnt my calves
-in future progression for row would be 2nd week increase by 2 reps, 3rd week +5lbs x 8 reps
-wake up today with very painful left wrist. suspected benching caused it. will not doing incline bench and curls 2mrw. just as my shouldedr started to be ok, another problem came.

Yes decent form on your dead. Some just don't get that different body structure need to perform some exercise differently. More upright shin certainly will help u not to scrap your shin. But if you want more upright shin, you have to raise your hips higher and end up you might be doing stiff leg deadlift which target different muscle. I would say get some shin guard to protect your shin and maintain your form.

Just because you make it look easy that's why people say it's good form. You try jerk all the way up then they will have different saying.

Shin should be upright. Your knee is too forward therefore your heel is lifted a little bit. That's a lot of pressure on your ankle. Another thing is your bar is not going straight up. More like going forward a bit then pass your knee only you pull it. Same goes for the way you lower the bar, it is wrong if you have to push the bar a bit forward to pass your knee. It should be straight down pass your knee with straight shin stance. Not saying the shin have to be totally straight but as straight as you possibly can.

With your current form, you'll always get pain at lower back spine because you're pulling. Remember deadlift is a push. Your back and shoulder just maintain straight up. Hips higher so its easier to lock your knee first then you push with your glutes and your body will eventually go to lock out position.

One last thing, if you want to lift 3x your bodyweight. Drop your ego and practise with empty bar till your mind get used to it.
If you're just doing it for bodybuilding purpose. you can do it in any technique u want as long as your back is not rounded.

A good way is to watch deadlift compilation. Tall and short, fat and skinny powerlifters all around the world.



See how they lock their knee first then only push?
Pause at 4.13 and look at his starting position. Tell me if this guy don't have long torso.

If all powerlifters use your technique.. I guess their shin is probably skinless now.

Alright =) Maybe you are right. I never agree with scrapping shin so hard during deadlift but I would prefer to slightly touch my shin with the bar. I'm not expert and just trying to discuss. Anyway, I would seek for more expert advice from bodybuilding forum as there are bunch of people lifting from world wide.

what about squats? there is no way i squat with shins vertical. the bar would be behind of my feet. no hard feelings, wanna know ur opinion.

i watched many deadlift form videos for newbies and all of them taught us to start when shins touch the bar. most notably mark rippetoe

We are talking about deadlift here. Nothing to do with the shin.

I've been repeating that having the bar so close as to scrape your shins is completely wrong. Why do you need to add that extra friction? Touches and dragging/scrapping is totally different thing. The moment you start lifting, the shin should always stay away from the bar. Knee angle very important for a successful lock out.

At higher weights, one may have less than perfect form and the bar may hits the shin but since you're lifting not so heavy. You should start correcting your form. Not dragging all the way up pass your knee. You are not a smith machine to assist the bar to go straight up.


I don't compete in national title. I don't lift 4x my bodyweight. I am Malaysian. You can seek advise from powerlifters in another forum. Up to you.

Chill dude =) It's always better to get more advice right? Not saying your advice is not trustable. As you said, we all are not expert and just giving our own opinion. Even those youtube "expert" are giving different opinion. That's why I suggesting for seeking advice from different people.

Peace

Just found some info. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.p...19#post13263219
Question - How close should the bar be to my shins while I perform the deadlift?

The bar should damn near scrape your shins all the way up and all the way down. I have hairy legs, and I know I'm not pulling properly unless I lose some hair on my shins.

In doing this, you will help ensure a few things

1) Your scapula stay above the bar during the initial pull to the knees
2) Your glutes, hams and lower back are in a better position of support
3) You are more easily able to maintain a lower back arch

This post has been edited by -ccy-: Aug 21 2014, 05:45 PM

i already move this discussion to bodybuilding and strength training section : https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3327754

This post has been edited by NGV22: Aug 22 2014, 02:19 AM

20/8/2014 Workout B Week 14


-bench is so easy
-wrist is good so i did the bench and curls
-people mirin my 205 pounds deadlift lol whut
-extra calf raises for the gains lel

This post has been edited by NGV22: Aug 22 2014, 02:31 AM

Your deadlift is progressing well. Give another few months and you ll hit 3 plates =)

Seems like your bench is better compared to your squat and deadlift. My bench stalled for a while and just start to progress again after I start to bulk now.

Are you bulking?

yeah i wanna hit 3 plates 3x5 by end of this year. my bench seems better because i started bench earlier than squat and deads. you know, typical bro who skipped leg days.

yeah bulking definitely as this routine calls for progression every week

I'm sure you can hit 3 plates by end of this year. I'm sure the people in your gym will mirin you when you deadlift 3 plates and squat 2 plates although it is easy to achieve by you now.

Typical malaysia gym. Bench 2 plates no problem. Squat 1 plate also susah lol.

Anyway, you from usm right?

lol yea do i know u?

Not really. But saw you few times last time when working out at usm gym. But I switch to other gym as well since last semester. Lack of barbell and had to wait sometimes. And don't really like others giving advice when I didn't ask for it lol.

assume that you are heavy squatter and deadlifter, i cnt rmbr any guy who do these except a huge strooonnng chinese powerlifter, my close coursemate and foreigners.

u must had encountered the annoying huge upperbody indian "coach" in the morning. good solution woulde be wearing earphones

if u recognised my deadlift vid its the gym rakyat batu uban. very worth to use compared to suck balls usm gym

I workout around 9 morning. But rarely see you around that time. I'm not huge powerlifter anyway haha. But I feel I'm better than most guys in our gym coz I'm the only 1 that use squat rack to squat and deadlift in the morning. The rest only use it for bench and curl

Yea that indian coach really have big chest. Just don't keep giving me advice lol.

It is difficult to deadlift properly in usm gym as they don't have proper floor mat and if I deadlift on those wooden floor, I'm sure I gonna get scold immediately. I know about the gym rakyat but sometimes it is crowded and smelly lol.