-i always scrap my shins during deadlift. i had done numerous research before this and it seems that some people said its a good form while others claimed its wrong. assumed that  my form is still the same as before injury, i think scrapping the shins is not a problem? i should buy a shin guard or something

That's hurt for your shin. Ya there are two different explanation on scraping your shin during deadlift but I think you shouldn't scrap your shin so hard. It should be touching your shin all the way up but definitely not scrapping so hard. But if your back arch and form is good and you couldn't avoid scrapping your shin, get a shin guard. I wear my knee sleeve as shin sleeve during deadlift to avoid direct contact with the bar.

thanks for ur input. ill get some knee sleeves for dem shins

My shin always bruise and bleed badly due to bad form. Proper technique is not touching your shin at all.

Every body is different and some people couldn't avoid scrapping their shins during deadlift due to their longer limb and different body type. Even you have perfect form.

No it does not. Your setup have to accommodate the bar path. Different body type? Adjust your hip position.

Proper deadlift is to get the bar approx your mid foot, then pull up vertically without scraping your shins. If the bar scraps all the way up means your hips start too low. This is not squat.

If you more comfortable that way then by all means go ahead as long as it's not rounded back.

Just my opinion. 

That work when you lifting not so heavy weight. As you progress heavier, the bar have to stay as close as possible to your body and might touching your shin. You want the bar to touch your shin and quad when you are lifting very max weight for better leverage.

By heavy you mean something like this? :-



Hips up and push off the ground. IF you scrap all the way up means your hips too low and you're actually trying to pull the weight back with your lower back. Many people who did this actually fail at locking their knee.

i agree wit amedion. d proper way is always lock d knee 1st b4 pulling back. if doin both together,  d bar is slighty not vertical.. thus creating less vertical loading. it means easier to pull dat way (suits powerlifter) but imho not correct way

Best deadlift instruction for you guys. Perfect leverage. Good luck.

Lazy to watch that video as too many version of teaching deadlift. Different people teaching different method. And what they teach sometime couldn't apply when it comes to real lifting.

Maybe you are right but I'm doing good with the bar slightly touching my shin during my deadlift. And I have no problem in progressing at the moment. As I mentioned, you can't expect the same method/form for all different body type. That's why they suggest sumo deadlift for people with long torso and short arm. Every single exercise works differently for everyone and we have to find out the best way that allow you to lift heavy without injuring yourself.

i appreciate you guys' discussion. this is the last form video i took 2months ago:



i scrapped my shins and the bar moved in the straight line, witih rear delts above the bar. if what the guy in the Animal video said is true, then i sholdd let my shins more upright and this causes the hips to be higher than my iriginal position?

between i have a similar log in bb.com and people there said that my deads form is quite good.

Yes decent form on your dead. Some just don't get that different body structure need to perform some exercise differently. More upright shin certainly will help u not to scrap your shin. But if you want more upright shin, you have to raise your hips higher and end up you might be doing stiff leg deadlift which target different muscle. I would say get some shin guard to protect your shin and maintain your form.

Just because you make it look easy that's why people say it's good form. You try jerk all the way up then they will have different saying.

Shin should be upright. Your knee is too forward therefore your heel is lifted a little bit. That's a lot of pressure on your ankle. Another thing is your bar is not going straight up. More like going forward a bit then pass your knee only you pull it. Same goes for the way you lower the bar, it is wrong if you have to push the bar a bit forward to pass your knee. It should be straight down pass your knee with straight shin stance. Not saying the shin have to be totally straight but as straight as you possibly can.

With your current form, you'll always get pain at lower back spine because you're pulling. Remember deadlift is a push. Your back and shoulder just maintain straight up. Hips higher so its easier to lock your knee first then you push with your glutes and your body will eventually go to lock out position.

One last thing, if you want to lift 3x your bodyweight. Drop your ego and practise with empty bar till your mind get used to it.
If you're just doing it for bodybuilding purpose. you can do it in any technique u want as long as your back is not rounded.

A good way is to watch deadlift compilation. Tall and short, fat and skinny powerlifters all around the world.



See how they lock their knee first then only push?
Pause at 4.13 and look at his starting position. Tell me if this guy don't have long torso.

If all powerlifters use your technique.. I guess their shin is probably skinless now.

Alright =) Maybe you are right. I never agree with scrapping shin so hard during deadlift but I would prefer to slightly touch my shin with the bar. I'm not expert and just trying to discuss. Anyway, I would seek for more expert advice from bodybuilding forum as there are bunch of people lifting from world wide.

what about squats? there is no way i squat with shins vertical. the bar would be behind of my feet. no hard feelings, wanna know ur opinion.

i watched many deadlift form videos for newbies and all of them taught us to start when shins touch the bar. most notably mark rippetoe

We are talking about deadlift here. Nothing to do with the shin. 
I've been repeating that having the bar so close as to scrape your shins is completely wrong. Why do you need to add that extra friction? Touches and dragging/scrapping is totally different thing. The moment you start lifting, the shin should always stay away from the bar. Knee angle very important for a successful lock out.

At higher weights, one may have less than perfect form and the bar may hits the shin but since you're lifting not so heavy. You should start correcting your form. Not dragging all the way up pass your knee. You are not a smith machine to assist the bar to go straight up.
I don't compete in national title. I don't lift 4x my bodyweight. I am Malaysian. You can seek advise from powerlifters in another forum. Up to you. 

Chill dude =) It's always better to get more advice right? Not saying your advice is not trustable. As you said, we all are not expert and just giving our own opinion. Even those youtube "expert" are giving different opinion. That's why I suggesting for seeking advice from different people.

Peace 

Just found some info. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.p...19#post13263219
Question - How close should the bar be to my shins while I perform the deadlift?

The bar should damn near scrape your shins all the way up and all the way down. I have hairy legs, and I know I'm not pulling properly unless I lose some hair on my shins.

In doing this, you will help ensure a few things

1) Your scapula stay above the bar during the initial pull to the knees
2) Your glutes, hams and lower back are in a better position of support
3) You are more easily able to maintain a lower back arch