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post Jun 9 2014, 06:32 PM

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Where do you workout at penang? It is really hot this few weeks here >.<
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post Jun 11 2014, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(NGV22 @ Jun 10 2014, 09:20 PM)
Gym Rakyat Batu Uban
lol, this oni beginner gains...not pro pun...
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Won't there be too crowded? Well at least it is much cheaper there.
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post Jun 20 2014, 06:16 PM

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Always look for spotter if any good guy there. If there is no one you know, ask politely and tell them what to do.

Normally after train for 1 year at least, you can know how much further you can go. And you can stop 1 rep before failure.

In case there is no reliable spotter, use the squat rack. If squat rack not available, and u hit failure in bench, drop the bar to your chest and roll down. NEVER roll up to your neck. Search roll of shame. I did that sometime when there is no spotter at all and no squat rack. I feel nothing wrong with that if it is not too heavy barbell.

Forget about smith machine, it totally sucks. I rather not training my chest if I must use the smith machine lol.

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post Aug 17 2014, 02:47 PM

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That's hurt for your shin. Ya there are two different explanation on scraping your shin during deadlift but I think you shouldn't scrap your shin so hard. It should be touching your shin all the way up but definitely not scrapping so hard. But if your back arch and form is good and you couldn't avoid scrapping your shin, get a shin guard. I wear my knee sleeve as shin sleeve during deadlift to avoid direct contact with the bar.
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post Aug 18 2014, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Aug 18 2014, 01:07 PM)
My shin always bruise and bleed badly due to bad form. Proper technique is not touching your shin at all.
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Every body is different and some people couldn't avoid scrapping their shins during deadlift due to their longer limb and different body type. Even you have perfect form.
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post Aug 18 2014, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Aug 18 2014, 06:30 PM)
No it does not. Your setup have to accommodate the bar path. Different body type? Adjust your hip position.

Proper deadlift is to get the bar approx your mid foot, then pull up vertically without scraping your shins. If the bar scraps all the way up means your hips start too low. This is not squat.

If you more comfortable that way then by all means go ahead as long as it's not rounded back.

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That work when you lifting not so heavy weight. As you progress heavier, the bar have to stay as close as possible to your body and might touching your shin. You want the bar to touch your shin and quad when you are lifting very max weight for better leverage.
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post Aug 19 2014, 12:25 PM

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Lazy to watch that video as too many version of teaching deadlift. Different people teaching different method. And what they teach sometime couldn't apply when it comes to real lifting.

Maybe you are right but I'm doing good with the bar slightly touching my shin during my deadlift. And I have no problem in progressing at the moment. As I mentioned, you can't expect the same method/form for all different body type. That's why they suggest sumo deadlift for people with long torso and short arm. Every single exercise works differently for everyone and we have to find out the best way that allow you to lift heavy without injuring yourself.
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post Aug 20 2014, 09:29 AM

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Yes decent form on your dead. Some just don't get that different body structure need to perform some exercise differently. More upright shin certainly will help u not to scrap your shin. But if you want more upright shin, you have to raise your hips higher and end up you might be doing stiff leg deadlift which target different muscle. I would say get some shin guard to protect your shin and maintain your form.
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post Aug 20 2014, 05:59 PM

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Alright =) Maybe you are right. I never agree with scrapping shin so hard during deadlift but I would prefer to slightly touch my shin with the bar. I'm not expert and just trying to discuss. Anyway, I would seek for more expert advice from bodybuilding forum as there are bunch of people lifting from world wide.
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post Aug 21 2014, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Aug 21 2014, 11:40 AM)
I don't compete in national title. I don't lift 4x my bodyweight. I am Malaysian. You can seek advise from powerlifters in another forum. Up to you.  thumbup.gif
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Chill dude =) It's always better to get more advice right? Not saying your advice is not trustable. As you said, we all are not expert and just giving our own opinion. Even those youtube "expert" are giving different opinion. That's why I suggesting for seeking advice from different people.

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Just found some info. http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.p...19#post13263219
Question - How close should the bar be to my shins while I perform the deadlift?

The bar should damn near scrape your shins all the way up and all the way down. I have hairy legs, and I know I'm not pulling properly unless I lose some hair on my shins.

In doing this, you will help ensure a few things

1) Your scapula stay above the bar during the initial pull to the knees
2) Your glutes, hams and lower back are in a better position of support
3) You are more easily able to maintain a lower back arch

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post Aug 22 2014, 01:29 PM

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Your deadlift is progressing well. Give another few months and you ll hit 3 plates =)

Seems like your bench is better compared to your squat and deadlift. My bench stalled for a while and just start to progress again after I start to bulk now.

Are you bulking?
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post Aug 22 2014, 02:20 PM

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I'm sure you can hit 3 plates by end of this year. I'm sure the people in your gym will mirin you when you deadlift 3 plates and squat 2 plates although it is easy to achieve by you now.

Typical malaysia gym. Bench 2 plates no problem. Squat 1 plate also susah lol.

Anyway, you from usm right?
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post Aug 22 2014, 02:47 PM

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Not really. But saw you few times last time when working out at usm gym. But I switch to other gym as well since last semester. Lack of barbell and had to wait sometimes. And don't really like others giving advice when I didn't ask for it lol.
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post Aug 22 2014, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(NGV22 @ Aug 22 2014, 02:58 PM)
assume that you are heavy squatter and deadlifter, i cnt rmbr any guy who do these except a huge strooonnng  chinese powerlifter, my close coursemate and foreigners.

u must had encountered the annoying  huge upperbody indian "coach" in the morning. good solution woulde be wearing earphones

if u recognised my deadlift vid its the gym rakyat batu uban. very worth to use compared to suck balls usm gym
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I workout around 9 morning. But rarely see you around that time. I'm not huge powerlifter anyway haha. But I feel I'm better than most guys in our gym coz I'm the only 1 that use squat rack to squat and deadlift in the morning. The rest only use it for bench and curl rclxms.gif

Yea that indian coach really have big chest. Just don't keep giving me advice lol.

It is difficult to deadlift properly in usm gym as they don't have proper floor mat and if I deadlift on those wooden floor, I'm sure I gonna get scold immediately. I know about the gym rakyat but sometimes it is crowded and smelly lol.
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post Aug 22 2014, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(NGV22 @ Aug 22 2014, 10:20 PM)
imma evening/night gym goer. you are indeed one of the strongest guy in usm. u had me me  mirin when u squat heavy singles and triples

the power rack sometimes left untouched in gym rakyat, so its awesome to squat and bench in it. deadlift and rows can be done anywhere on the floor even w/o mats and platforms. my friend claimed that he got allergies everytime he went there but i encountered no problem.

i notice u dun hav a workout journal here. do u have one in bb.com? it would be interesting to see yours.
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I track everything in my phone only. Strongest guy in usm? not at all lol... i'm sure they are some people hiding lol.

Gym rakyat is more public and hence I feel the management and clealiness will be not as good as other gym?

And how u mirin me when you never saw me squat/deadlift lol... Anyway, I'm currently running 5/3/1 by wendler. It is a good choice IMO after full body.
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post Aug 22 2014, 10:53 PM

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I didn't really know you but just saw you a few times. Anyway, I'm sure you mistaken me with other guy. Because I ran all pro when I workout in usm. And i never squat less than 8 reps lol. But to be honest, squat and deadlift trained at low reps suit my style more. More explosive power and less endurance.
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post Dec 9 2014, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(NGV22 @ Dec 9 2014, 04:07 PM)
that is why i opt for ohp instead incline bench...incline bench sucks lol

you can cut half the progression in terms of reps not necessaarily weight. for eg.,
ohp this week is 135lbs 3x5
ohp next week is 135lbs 3x7 instead of 140lbs 3x5
u shld start a log in bb.com, the fierce 5 community there is much more helpful compared to lowyat. ill sub to ur log if u do so
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Actually is add 1 rep to lower rep scheme and 2 rep to higher rep scheme. So instead of 3X5 -> 3X6. 3X8 -> 3X10.
It is something similar to the intermediate routine.

Just a small suggestion but some might think it is unnecessary. During deadlift, if you using mixed grip, try to switch ur under and over hand every set. To avoid some trap imbalance. For those powerlifter, they will stick to only 1 type of mixed grip. But they will do shrugs with opposite grip to balance it off.

Also strong upper body lift especially OHP. bodyweight more than 85kg now?

 

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