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post Aug 18 2014, 01:07 PM

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My shin always bruise and bleed badly due to bad form. Proper technique is not touching your shin at all.
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post Aug 18 2014, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(-ccy- @ Aug 18 2014, 05:42 PM)
Every body is different and some people couldn't avoid scrapping their shins during deadlift due to their longer limb and different body type. Even you have perfect form.
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No it does not. Your setup have to accommodate the bar path. Different body type? Adjust your hip position.

Proper deadlift is to get the bar approx your mid foot, then pull up vertically without scraping your shins. If the bar scraps all the way up means your hips start too low. This is not squat.

If you more comfortable that way then by all means go ahead as long as it's not rounded back.

Just my opinion. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 18 2014, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(-ccy- @ Aug 18 2014, 07:18 PM)
That work when you lifting not so heavy weight. As you progress heavier, the bar have to stay as close as possible to your body and might touching your shin. You want the bar to touch your shin and quad when you are lifting very max weight for better leverage.
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By heavy you mean something like this? :-



Hips up and push off the ground. IF you scrap all the way up means your hips too low and you're actually trying to pull the weight back with your lower back. Many people who did this actually fail at locking their knee.
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post Aug 19 2014, 11:29 AM

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Best deadlift instruction for you guys. Perfect leverage. Good luck.


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post Aug 20 2014, 12:49 PM

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Just because you make it look easy that's why people say it's good form. You try jerk all the way up then they will have different saying.

Shin should be upright. Your knee is too forward therefore your heel is lifted a little bit. That's a lot of pressure on your ankle. Another thing is your bar is not going straight up. More like going forward a bit then pass your knee only you pull it. Same goes for the way you lower the bar, it is wrong if you have to push the bar a bit forward to pass your knee. It should be straight down pass your knee with straight shin stance. Not saying the shin have to be totally straight but as straight as you possibly can.

With your current form, you'll always get pain at lower back spine because you're pulling. Remember deadlift is a push. Your back and shoulder just maintain straight up. Hips higher so its easier to lock your knee first then you push with your glutes and your body will eventually go to lock out position.

One last thing, if you want to lift 3x your bodyweight. Drop your ego and practise with empty bar till your mind get used to it.
If you're just doing it for bodybuilding purpose. you can do it in any technique u want as long as your back is not rounded.

A good way is to watch deadlift compilation. Tall and short, fat and skinny powerlifters all around the world.



See how they lock their knee first then only push?
Pause at 4.13 and look at his starting position. Tell me if this guy don't have long torso.

If all powerlifters use your technique.. I guess their shin is probably skinless now.

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post Aug 21 2014, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(NGV22 @ Aug 21 2014, 12:20 AM)
what about squats? there is no way i squat with shins vertical. the bar would be behind of my feet. no hard feelings, wanna know ur opinion.
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We are talking about deadlift here. Nothing to do with the shin. sweat.gif

QUOTE(NGV22 @ Aug 21 2014, 12:21 AM)
i watched many deadlift form videos for newbies and all of them taught us to start when shins touch the bar. most notably mark rippetoe
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I've been repeating that having the bar so close as to scrape your shins is completely wrong. Why do you need to add that extra friction? Touches and dragging/scrapping is totally different thing. The moment you start lifting, the shin should always stay away from the bar. Knee angle very important for a successful lock out.

At higher weights, one may have less than perfect form and the bar may hits the shin but since you're lifting not so heavy. You should start correcting your form. Not dragging all the way up pass your knee. You are not a smith machine to assist the bar to go straight up.


I don't compete in national title. I don't lift 4x my bodyweight. I am Malaysian. You can seek advise from powerlifters in another forum. Up to you. thumbup.gif

 

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