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twhong_91
post May 21 2014, 07:56 PM

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Sifus, the revenue of a company has been increasing since 2009 but i notice that the growth of revenue in term of percentage is getting lower. is it worth to invest in such company?

2009 -71,128000
2010 - 91,262,000
2011 - 110,353,000
2012 - 123,602,000
2013 - 130,627,000

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post May 21 2014, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 21 2014, 07:40 PM)
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Why don't know how to layan? tongue.gif
forum = discussion maaa = sharing of idea.  icon_idea.gif

unless you want stock forum = posting of stock tips.

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I want tips forum
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post May 21 2014, 08:16 PM

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Wow, Mahathir appointed Proton chairman.

This evil man is back. I'm suspecting the timing of this. I think it has to do with its failure to ask government for bailout recently. If Gov rescue MAS, I think Mahathir will take this opportunity to get the same treatment for Proton.
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post May 21 2014, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ May 21 2014, 04:22 PM)
Picorp taktau apa tu.. ignored haha  tongue.gif

Yeah AA and ben... like that loh.. when i don't touch, then it turns out good  sweat.gif
AirAsia trading idea was actually tricky.

A trade would have actually been more justified by the chart than the 'observation' (stated earlier).

Although profit result showed 'big' increase, I felt that the earnings was very distorted by a huge forex gains ( I am shocked and amazed that it was a 'gain').

Leaving that out, the profits was deteriorating badly.

One thing about AirAsia, they give a lot of info in their profit announcement (kudos to them) but if we take the time and read it, we can see a big and serious problem.

We all know their revenue is flat - y-y
but consider these facts...

Malaysia operations. Aircraft fleet increased from 66 to 72 (9%) Number of Flights increased 1%
Thailand operations. Aircraft fleet increased from 28 to 37 (32%) Number of Flights increased 31%
Indonesian operations. Aircraft fleet increased from 22 to 30 (36%) Number of Flights increased 19%

Can get the simple implication?
Aircraft increased, number of flights increased but revenue flat. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

Terrible.

Ben? Remember what you said about what GUH was doing (compared to Parkson) ?
Remember? tongue.gif

Things now (TODAY) have changed some what.... sweat.gif
Last buyback announced was done on 14/5
TODAY's announcement probably might leave traders with mixed feeling...
Company announced many ESOS shares being listed......
Total value? 202 million !!
ESOS cost price ? 79 sen only! rclxub.gif


Picorp?
A chart influenced trading 'idea'...
Chart showed stock breaking out to new highs...
recent quarter profits were good...
but the only risk as stated before was the company's profit track record was very inconsistent. sweat.gif


These are just simple stock trading ideas plucked out for discussion..... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 21 2014, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ May 21 2014, 07:56 PM)
Sifus, the revenue of a company has been increasing since 2009 but i notice that the growth of revenue in term of percentage is getting lower. is it worth to invest in such company?

2009 -71,128000
2010 - 91,262,000
2011 - 110,353,000
2012 - 123,602,000
2013 - 130,627,000
Profits more important than revenue.


wenqing
post May 21 2014, 08:28 PM

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Any good stock for me?? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post May 21 2014, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ May 21 2014, 08:00 PM)
I want tips forum
You can. biggrin.gif


I think I will go play masak masak in the corner. tongue.gif

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post May 21 2014, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 21 2014, 08:28 PM)
Boon Sifu.
Any good stock for me?? notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Wah, you and jonchai very brave ask for tips... going to get whacked....

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post May 21 2014, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 21 2014, 08:25 PM)

Malaysia operations. Aircraft fleet increased from 66 to 72 (9%) Number of Flights increased 1%
Thailand operations. Aircraft fleet increased from 28 to 37 (32%) Number of Flights increased 31%
Indonesian operations. Aircraft fleet increased from 22 to 30 (36%) Number of Flights increased 19%

Can get the simple implication?
Aircraft increased, number of flights increased but revenue flat.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

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They did mentioned in their quarter result that their average price dropped despite the volume increased.
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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ May 21 2014, 08:33 PM)
Wah, you and jonchai very brave ask for tips... going to get whacked....
You gonna do the whacking is it?


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lynetnonyma
post May 21 2014, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 21 2014, 08:34 PM)
You gonna do the whacking is it?
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Hahahah.... I whack them on your behalf, you give me tips, ok?

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post May 21 2014, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 21 2014, 08:27 PM)
Profits more important than revenue.
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Oh, I see. haha. thanks for pointing it out sifu Boon.

the profits are as below:
2009 - 4,001,606
2010 - 5,526,000
2011 - 7,277,936
2012 - 8,109,986
2013 - 8,900,582

as you can see, the profit has been increasing on a yearly basic. however, when i calculate it in percentage the increments are 38% in 2010, 31% in 2011, 11% in 2012 and lastly 9.75% in 2013. What do you think? profit is growing but it is getting lower as in percentage.
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QUOTE(TakoC @ May 21 2014, 08:34 PM)
They did mentioned in their quarter result that their average price dropped despite the volume increased.
And what does this mean to you?

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I think they also said they are taking in 9 new fei kei ...

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ May 21 2014, 08:35 PM)
Hahahah.... I whack them on your behalf, you give me tips, ok?
..... I need to collect some money also...... whistling.gif whistling.gif


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post May 21 2014, 08:41 PM

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So no good stock for me??nvm.I go find myself ^ ^
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post May 21 2014, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ May 21 2014, 08:36 PM)
Oh, I see. haha. thanks for pointing it out sifu Boon.

the profits are as below:
2009 - 4,001,606
2010 - 5,526,000
2011 - 7,277,936
2012 - 8,109,986
2013 - 8,900,582

as you can see, the profit has been increasing on a yearly basic. however, when i calculate it in percentage the increments are 38% in 2010, 31% in 2011, 11% in 2012 and lastly 9.75% in 2013. What do you think? profit is growing but it is getting lower as in percentage.
Ok.. from past experiences...

I have noted that the market tends to get nervous when the profit 'growth' extends more than 3 years...
this is cos.... I think... they are taught that growth doesn't last forever....
so after 3 years or so, they then pay attention to rate of profit growth...
once it slows, as per your example, they won't get so gung ho over the stock....
in fact... they usually get edgy.... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 21 2014, 08:41 PM)
So no good stock for me??nvm.I go find myself ^ ^
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I not good enough to give tips leh.....

I am solely here just to share and discuss about stocks.... icon_rolleyes.gif

lynetnonyma
post May 21 2014, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 21 2014, 08:41 PM)
So no good stock for me??nvm.I go find myself ^ ^
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Don't go, stay here. Correct me if wrong. Aren't you the one who long time ago gave tip on HOMERIZ when it was 0.50 or something?

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post May 21 2014, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(lynetnonyma @ May 21 2014, 08:48 PM)
Don't go, stay here. Correct me if wrong. Aren't you the one who long time ago gave tip on HOMERIZ when it was 0.50 or something?
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My first buy price is at 0.4.
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post May 21 2014, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 21 2014, 08:51 PM)
My first buy price is at 0.4.
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So, it was you. Hmmm.... any more tips like that? Hahah... don't tell Boon3 I asked...



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