elsoft.... seems trigger your attention somehow ya? i was once so tempted to trade this stock but then....

hevea and ah lat

elsoft PE is 26.7.. is there any catalyst that will make the PE even higher? imho, this is a stock to avoid at current price..

Well based on Annual proft of IQGROUP, TTM and its previous year 2014-03-31 definitely looks good. 50% profit increase ya?

Though its 2013-03-31 has a big difference? May need to check its annual profit of that year to know more.

And yea from low volume to big volume jump surely indicates something. But if based on just chart purely, there's not much consolidate for me to enter except the breakout to the other side

Summary, check for growth or not and NTA secondary. Let me stick with the basic first, haha

lazy answer found from spring and other thread of bones (pdz,prtasco,gbh sell down)?

I think i found some on BJAUTO-UMW? LIIHEN-spring's answer? Plastic related beacuse of TECNIC/SKPRES-PTARAS? Plantation-TSH? And some i don't really know their business background from today's top gainer



This post has been edited by hehe86: Oct 1 2014, 01:48 AM

See I am a trader.
I get paid when I observe................................

Errr....

Firstly do refer my above comments.

I am a trader and I get paid when I observe...........

Hence, I could just post stocks WITHOUT any prejudice and it's up to you all to decide YOURSELF if what I am saying make sense or it's utter KETAM!
But jokes aside, never ever trust anyone in any stock forums.
Trust own self.
Make your own research + reasoning.
I see forums where one so-called head speak, and the rest follow blindly...
I do not wish to see this here....
simply cos... I am human and I could be always be WRONG!

Yes, using TTM, Elsoft PE is high at 26.7
Not much justification.

Regarding Elsoft, I am aware what I wrote here post #1272

That was before it's latest earnings.



hehe86 also note...


Compared to my last notes.
That time I was looking at a TTM eps of 5.39.
Now the TTM has jumped incredibly to 6.33.
There is growth.
as can be seen in the above table.

Isn't it the similar to IQGroup's earnings?



See how the most recent earnings TOWERS above the other 3 most recent earnings.

Well, common sense thinking here (err...this is not 100% foolproof and yes, sometimes.... it might fail one..... )

IF (big IF hor - and this is what is betting one on ) assuming this turnaround is real...
then it's not logical that to expect the next couple of earnings to repeat its earlier poor earnings.
complicated?

Take Elsoft (easier to see)

2014 Q2 eps 3.84
2014 Q1 eps 0.68
2013 Q4 eps 1.01
2013 Q3 eps 0.80

the next quarter is 2014 Q3.
it should compare against 2013 Q3, in which Elsoft only had an eps of 0.80 sen.

Using the assumption that we see a real turnaround, Elsoft 'should' possibly record an eps of maybe at least 3.84 sen.
If you replace that 0.80 sen with say 3.8 sen...
we could see a new TTM eps table like this below...

2014 Q3 eps 3.80 <<-->> estimated eps
2014 Q2 eps 3.84
2014 Q1 eps 0.68
2013 Q4 eps 1.01

now if count the TTM, it then becomes 9.33 sen!!!! (the working = 3.8 + 3.84 + 0.68 + 1.01)
see how the TTM jumps?
and if we repeat it 2 more times...
Elsoft PE doesn't appear too expensive, yes?

Same thing...
run it with IQ numbers...
you will see a difference...

which is why ...
for me la.....


Elsoft annualised eps (assuming turnaround is real) = 15.36 sen!!
IQGroup annualised eps (assuming turnaround is real) = 35 sen!!


p/s: Warning: This is just example and not ask you die die buy these 2 stocks!



This post has been edited by Boon3: Oct 1 2014, 11:36 AM

This is the basic.

If you want to be good in the shark market....
observe the market more....
watching the forums isn't going to do you any good.

PTARAS is in construction la... (but I would say it's more a building material la)


Answer: Didn't you see the big jump in MUIIND? See the other related companies? ( this is just pure exercise and I doubt I will trade these stocks!!!)




them selldowns?
read this site la.... http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-news.html

it's actually bad hor...
you see KTB
you see PDZ
you see GBH
you see Protasco
you see MEGB

so much nonsense...
company make announcements...
and then the announcement is voided ..... (KTB's case is different)

the implication is there hor.....
watch out!

PTARAS yeap construction but saw it also do plastic sheet, guess i'm wrong then, lol

Observe market more, see how to do it lo. In my case i view all companies that i know of everyday and i chose the best potential ones to observe lo. Hot stocks eventually will appear in forum eh,

I think what you meant is view top volume and read news i guess? My thinking here was top volume usually are the goreng ones/penny hence didn't pay much attention there.

Definitely didn't notice MUIIND and based on chart, i definitely tarak trade mia. Check out its website "Through its subsidiaries and associated companies, the MUI Group is primarily engaged in retailing, hotels, food & confectionery, financial services and properties". So i think is hotels? Beh hiao la lol

It's other related companies meaning is see who is the 'owner'....
in this case PMCorp and PMHoldings.

Just an exercise la...
and again I am not the least interested....

Better not trust all the "announcements" unless it's a firm decision or acquisition?

This is where it is sad and F***-ED up!


We are talking about public listed companies.
How could they make such 'gooding' announcement....
which MOST IMPORTANTLY, see there share prices ramp up sky high...
only for the company to say....
sorry... the deal isn't going to happen.

Like here the F**** is the integrity in our market?

Market want to go against you....
Ah La Lat trying for 4 soon....

Exactly

So many cancelled deals nowadays.
Even Sime Darby called it off.
So the next big one is the Bank merger i guess

Having said all that...

in the first place...

these companies rescinding their deals...
these aren't really investment grade companies at all in the first place......

And Robert Tan is probably gonna get lots of red marks since he has two companies (PDZ and GBH) involved......

Hahaha. I like. Investment noob like me always buy and hold.
always wrong to time the market

Scientex rally continues

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Oct 1 2014, 10:02 AM

You need to learn TA.............................. heeeeehehe










Cannot always narrow mind one.
Cannot always think 'time the market'.

I, myself , don't time the market.

Explore yourself...
Enrich yourself....
Improve......

They say...
to improve is to change
to be perfect to keep on changing

so embrace yourself with TA.