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TSBoon3
post Apr 29 2014, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 29 2014, 04:49 PM)
Last quarter oso same thing... good result but homeriz price also kena throw down.

Then had to wait.... long long... for it to climb back again  sweat.gif
History repeats itself.... tongue.gif

I did tell you before...
that I do know people...
who have such strategies....
they bet for certain patterns every couple of months..... sweat.gif

whether it works or not....
you better run some sample stocks....

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post Apr 29 2014, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 29 2014, 04:46 PM)
because boon was mentioning about seasonal business cycle mar. want to understand abit about it too
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Look at this other sample...

http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Inf...curityCode=2615

What do you see?
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post Apr 29 2014, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 05:01 PM)
History repeats itself.... tongue.gif

I did tell you before...
that I do know people...
who have such strategies....
they bet for certain patterns every couple of months..... sweat.gif

whether it works or not....
you better run some sample stocks....

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Next quarter, throw first drool.gif wink.gif
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post Apr 29 2014, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 04:59 PM)
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ok i got you finally! thanks for clarification

QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 29 2014, 05:04 PM)
Next quarter, throw first  drool.gif  wink.gif
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you no scare got trend breaker?

This post has been edited by spring onion: Apr 29 2014, 05:08 PM
aylwyn paul
post Apr 29 2014, 05:10 PM

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target continue melt down buy in

ta kenanga, asiapac tomorrow sure huat
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post Apr 29 2014, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Apr 29 2014, 04:29 PM)
With my biased eyes and mind, I see that as tell-tale signs of bigger problem brewing there. Ha.

More to come in the next few months?

Wondering why 4 at the SAME time? Same person/fund manager?
Spillover impacts..... sadly....rather crucial.

Our market not very matured...
when things like this happen...
punters ALWAYS, ALWAYS get very nervous......
sentiments turns negative....
and such incidents, which should not impact any fundamental stocks, simply causes uneasiness in our tiny market....
fundamentals strangely is thrown into the longkang... lol

and then you have those remisers... you have those aunties.. uncles.... punters.... all suddenly becoming experts...
they start adding vinegar... salt....

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post Apr 29 2014, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 29 2014, 05:07 PM)
ok i got you finally! thanks for clarification
you do understand the risks involved with Homer, right?

there is no broker coverage (stock is still unknown, except for that half baked Kenanga report the other day)
no news coverage... doh.gif
not attracting funds ..... doh.gif

and then the USD impact...

this recent quarter is for the period Dec to Feb.

Next quarter is for Mar to May....

USD is said to be a big plus booster ....

you can actually have a sneak peep...

compare current Mar and Apr's USD rates versus last year....
what you see?

user posted image

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post Apr 29 2014, 05:23 PM

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Chat Look Chat Look...on anyone's radar?

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post Apr 29 2014, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 05:23 PM)
you do understand the risks involved with Homer, right?

there is no broker coverage (stock is still unknown, except for that half baked Kenanga report the other day)
no news coverage... doh.gif
not attracting funds ..... doh.gif

and then the USD impact...

this recent quarter is for the period Dec to Feb.

Next quarter is for Mar to May....

USD is said to be a big plus booster ....

you can actually have a sneak peep...

compare current Mar and Apr's USD rates versus last year....
what you see?

user posted image
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it will head downwards(MYR, not USD tongue.gif ) if according to chart. but is chart always right still remains a question

so when MYR is down, supposedly export volume increases, this causes large order for export company

if buyers pays exporter in debt, this would probably increase the company profit. lets see how this company goes

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post Apr 29 2014, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 29 2014, 05:23 PM)
Chat Look Chat Look...on anyone's radar?
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Coma counter. laugh.gif

Poor earnings... growth... tongue.gif

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post Apr 29 2014, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 29 2014, 05:29 PM)
it will head downwards(MYR, not USD tongue.gif ) if according to chart. but is chart always right still remains a question

so when MYR is down, supposedly export volume increases, this causes large order for export company

if buyers pays exporter in debt, this would probably increase the company profit. lets see how this company goes
Errr.... my England not good enough. sweat.gif

Maybe that chart is not easy to see as a whole.

user posted image

Let's begin again and let me shoot you a long posting..... sweat.gif
please note I am only explaining it as it is....
not a sell and not a buy.... tongue.gif

If you read the earnings result, in fact the past few months, it is said that the HIGHER USD helped boost its profits.

homer's main business is its exports.

Yes exports.

Most of it, is sold in USD.

Higher USD translates to more ringgit, which means more profit.

Ok so far?

Yesterday result is for Dec 2013 to Feb 2014.

I dared to guess the result should be good.

This is because the USD multiple impact would be positive.

let show you...

This is the USD chart, from Dec 2013 to Feb 2014...

user posted image

As you can say low USD was about 3.15, high was about 3.35....
and rough eye estimate is about 3.27 or so.... around there la... tongue.gif

Now compare to previous year period, ie Dec 2012 to Feb 2013...
yes compare against the previous year same period....

this is last year chart of that period...

user posted image

low is about 2.94, high only 3.10
mostly... my rough eye estimate would say 3.05 or so.

Now if say Homer export sales is USD 2 million.
That USD 2 million, a year ago, using 3.05 would translate to around 6.1 million ringgit only.

Compare to this period, where the USD is around roughly 3.27.
That same USD 2 million translates to 6.54 million..

Same export figure but more ringgit back.

Ok so far?

please if I am wrong so far, say so la.
I also learn learn one....
boh tak chik one. laugh.gif (where did I read that from? tongue.gif )


Now this is where we get to GUESS the coming Q3 figures...
with the help of the USD current prices.

Next Q3 is for the period MARCH 2014 to MAY 2014.

First we get last year chart first...

This is how the USD traded last year for the period March 2013 to May 2013.

user posted image

rough eye estimate? I would say 3.05.

Ok we only have March 2014 and Apr 2014 figures... May 2014 not here yet...

anyway this is where we are at....

user posted image

my rough eye estimate.... maybe so far 3.25...

comparing 3.25 and 3.05....
I can safely guess we should see positive USD multiplier impact again for Homer....

which means.... would you guess that the next quarter, Homer should also report much better earnings?

ok so far? sweat.gif


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post Apr 29 2014, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 07:21 PM)
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ok. i did take a while to digest this. high conversion means higher profit, because buyers buy in USD. i think way out from this statement liao. took so you long to reply my 3 line. paiseh paiseh. thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 29 2014, 11:33 AM)
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this is why I told you, I only like to play stocks that has got huge potentials....

buying Genting at 970 and having a TP of 1040.... very limiting potential.... sweat.gif
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I bought at 9.60
Hope June got good news.
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post Apr 29 2014, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 06:31 PM)
Coma counter.  laugh.gif

Poor earnings... growth...  tongue.gif
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Still go for growth meh?

Small mid cap all lausai.. End of small cap stock era? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2014, 06:31 PM)
Coma counter.  laugh.gif

Poor earnings... growth...  tongue.gif
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On my bos geh radar ph34r.gif
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post Apr 29 2014, 09:37 PM

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No pain no gain. But this week so far made me grateful that I'm a chicken when it comes to stock trading.
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post Apr 29 2014, 10:45 PM

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hello! i'm really new with stock trading so may i ask if there any books that u recommend me to read? did u guys went for any seminar regarding stock exchange? i really wanna learn it so bad, but i dont really know where to start. ur respond is highly appreciated!

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post Apr 30 2014, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 29 2014, 07:47 PM)
ok. i did take a while to digest this. high conversion means higher profit, because buyers buy in USD. i think way out from this statement liao. took so you long to reply my 3 line. paiseh paiseh. thanks smile.gif
No problem la.

The same can be used for a company like AirAsia.

We know for a fact that AirAsia borrowing is really big and the most crucial fact is that the borrowings are mostly in USD.

So given the comparisons of where the USD are now versus last year, we know for a fact AirAsia will be hit by forex losses.

Yes, AirAsia does hedge a portion (around 40% iinm) of its loans (last I recall reading, it hedged at 3.22) but that's enough.

Borrowing costs will increase and the difference in the USD will translates to losses.



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wow, V5 already?!!

Surprise that this thread still alive tongue.gif

Have not been in the market for quite a long time already. just park my money in UZMA and TM, don't know what else to do. laugh.gif

Heard some penny stocks did bungee jumping yesterday and monday. punters already pull out money for world cup meh? haha
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post Apr 30 2014, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Apr 30 2014, 08:04 AM)
wow, V5 already?!!

Surprise that this thread still alive tongue.gif

Have not been in the market for quite a long time already. just park my money in UZMA and TM, don't know what else to do. laugh.gif

Heard some penny stocks did bungee jumping yesterday and monday. punters already pull out money for world cup meh? haha
LOL!

Apa macam bro?

I am a psychopath stock forumer, don't you remeember? tongue.gif

This thread only created yesterday. rolleyes.gif

The penny stocks bungee happened Monday but you must understand what kind of utterly garbage penny stocks we are talking about. (Posted charts on post #2)

Nah.. I copy and paste just for you again... whistling.gif

Candidate one..

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Candidate two..

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Candidate three..

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Candidate four....

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Outsider ...... sweat.gif sweat.gif

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Now tell me.... what kind of rubbish stocks are these in the first place?

Look at how they orchestrated the volumes!

Doh!

And now the media highlighting these stocks....

and what does it achieve?

the perfect dumping ground!!!

LOL!


and next thing you know... yesterday... we get all the negative spillover effects....

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