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jerrychoo2004
post Sep 18 2014, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 18 2014, 03:00 PM)
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I guess you are now a dividend player.

faster wake Ah Lamb up....

her neck very the long jor....................  tongue.gif
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not really la....just diversify a bit
still got some goreng stock fast and furious, but allocate fund some for non goreng stock too
at least when market red.....ada pocket money to use also good la
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Sep 18 2014, 02:59 PM)
Bila mau purata atas
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LOL!

If I wanted too, I would have purchase the other day. whistling.gif
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post Sep 18 2014, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Sep 18 2014, 03:03 PM)
not really la....just diversify a bit
still got some goreng stock fast and furious, but allocate fund some for non goreng stock too
at least when market red.....ada pocket money to use also good la
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Let me count and see...

so every 3 months ....
a thousand ringgit pocket money from Homer? whistling.gif
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post Sep 18 2014, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 18 2014, 03:05 PM)
Let me count and see...

so every 3 months ....
a thousand ringgit pocket money from Homer?  whistling.gif
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tak ada la....few hundred got la tongue.gif
TSBoon3
post Sep 18 2014, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Sep 18 2014, 03:06 PM)
tak ada la....few hundred got la tongue.gif
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so modest........................... tongue.gif
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post Sep 18 2014, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 18 2014, 03:03 PM)
LOL!

If I wanted too, I would have purchase the other day. whistling.gif
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Haha, haram, Potong stim man, laugh.gif

OT: Btw boon, the other your platform is HLE?

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post Sep 18 2014, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Sep 18 2014, 03:11 PM)
Haha, haram, Potong stim man, laugh.gif

OT: Btw boon, the other your platform is HLE?
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Don't have HLE.

The other day I got post chart maaaa.......

Not a buying opportunity meh?

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post Sep 18 2014, 03:14 PM

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Eh i mean what is your platform that you posted about Sunway?

The other day i see a while then fly ma, usual la, lol
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post Sep 18 2014, 03:23 PM

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Eh i mean what is your platform that you posted about Sunway?

The other day i see a while then fly ma, usual la, lol
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I think I used Jupiter for that.

Kenanga same platform.

See a while?

Posted few times.... whistling.gif


post #2192

post #2232


Remember BJAuto???

Did you see BJAuto?

Compare it to DRBHicom.

Same industry.....
why BJAuto fly so geng?

why?

Fundamentals....... whistling.gif

As a trader, you give this handicap away....
and you will see many flying ducks fly far far away.......................... laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Sep 18 2014, 03:29 PM

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Yeap noted your charts, i did mention i wanna buy at ~0.78/0.79, too bad didn't return to me. Marilah saya kejar kamu sekarang

You said charts are manipulated, but to me, fundamentals are laggard info, most likely one can see it 'first' from chart. Maybe Bursa participants not huge enough hence easily to be manipulated lo the chart.

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post Sep 18 2014, 03:43 PM

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Wow, look at HOMER go...
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post Sep 18 2014, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Sep 18 2014, 03:29 PM)

You said charts are manipulated, but to me, fundamentals are laggard info, most likely one can see it 'first' from chart. Maybe Bursa participants not huge enough hence easily to be manipulated lo the chart.
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Yes, there is always a chance that charts are manipulated, no doubt about it.

Now think....

this is why you need to know your fundamentals....

it makes you know what run is real and what is not.

meaning, which stock, you can trade longer ..... without much fear of it dropping or see the invisible hands shake the living daylights of the small fry traders.
meaning the trader would know when to sit and when to take the money and run.

Again back to DRB/BJauto.

It was a simple case.

You were fixed to DRB...
but for me...
straight away I knew it was perhaps not the better stock to trade.
BJAuto had posted very strong numbers...
numbers which are more a less visible to us...
cos we can see the drastic increase in Mazda sales...
its so visible...
so many uncles and aunties coming out with one Mazda CX5....
no?
With so many cars being sold... and long waiting list for the car...
it's simple deduction that business is good...
hence better profits...
hence better stock....

Ok.... you talk about seeing it in the charts first.

Ahhhh.... what's the best example for you.... tongue.gif

let's see...

the 2 download posting..... LOL!

Here are the 2 charts again...

user posted image

user posted image

How?

Could you have seen that there was a trading opportunity in such a stock?

Would you have chased this chicken?

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ahh.... I bet your answer is no.

look at where it is now....

would fundamentals help? (ie fundamentals would have suggested that perhaps this was an opportunity!! )

ok that was then (few weeks ago)

now? stock has pulled back.... can buy (or hold)?? hmm.gif
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post Sep 18 2014, 04:51 PM

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Yay. Homeritz ^ ^
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QUOTE(wenqing @ Sep 18 2014, 04:51 PM)
Yay. Homeritz ^ ^
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Sep 18 2014, 04:28 PM)
Yes, there is always a chance that charts are manipulated, no doubt about it.

Now think....

this is why you need to know your fundamentals....

it makes you know what run is real and what is not.

meaning, which stock, you can trade longer ..... without much fear of it dropping or see the invisible hands shake the living daylights of the small fry traders.
meaning the trader would know when to sit and when to take the money and run.

Again back to DRB/BJauto.

It was a simple case.

You were fixed to DRB...
but for me...
straight away I knew it was perhaps not the better stock to trade.
BJAuto had posted very strong numbers...
numbers which are more a less visible to us...
cos we can see the drastic increase in Mazda sales...
its so visible...
so many uncles and aunties coming out with one Mazda CX5....
no?
With so many cars being sold... and long waiting list for the car...
it's simple deduction that business is good...
hence better profits...
hence better stock....

Ok.... you talk about seeing it in the charts first.

Ahhhh.... what's the best example for you.... tongue.gif

let's see...

the 2 download posting..... LOL!

Here are the 2 charts again...

user posted image

user posted image

How?

Could you have seen that there was a trading opportunity in such a stock?

Would you have chased this chicken?

laugh.gif

ahh.... I bet your answer is no.

look at where it is now....

would fundamentals help? (ie fundamentals would have suggested that perhaps this was an opportunity!! )

ok that was then (few weeks ago)

now? stock has pulled back.... can buy (or hold)??  hmm.gif
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So boon bro, can buy or hold or not? Novice here
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post Sep 18 2014, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(kevraul @ Sep 18 2014, 06:03 PM)
So boon bro, can buy or hold or not? Novice here
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I am not an investment adviser.

Stock forums is not a place to seek investment advice. wink.gif

I was once a novice.
I read a lot.
Surfed the web a lot.
Practice many, many years doing fake (paper) trading (trading with no money involved)....

The shark market is a very dangerous place for a novice. sweat.gif
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Boon gor, mind to share how many years have you been swimming in this shark market?
Novice here looking for a breakthrough, and not to be eaten by the sharks LOL
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QUOTE(linuss @ Sep 18 2014, 07:06 PM)
Boon gor, mind to share how many years have you been swimming in this shark market?
Novice here looking for a breakthrough, and not to be eaten by the sharks LOL
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Many years la.....

I spend many years learning...
but I learn not like how many are badly advised nowadays...
I learn without paying the silly tuition fees...

not saying I am stingy poker ....
but ....
tuition fees in the market can kill one....

so... I made sure I know myself very well before I started playing with real money!

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post Sep 18 2014, 07:17 PM

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hehe86

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poisoning time...
like I said...
we Malaysians...
our hobby is poisoning each other.....

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Fundamentals is USEFUL to the trader.... so says me. tongue.gif

reference posting #1997

Company webpage: http://www.iq-group.com/

It's products rather easy to understand..... no? tongue.gif

Company does not have a good history.

You can see it clearly....

user posted image

But the latest profits announced end Aug, that appears to be a game changer.

Read the edge article (and also RHB comments): http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-earnings-.html

QUOTE
IQ Group net profit for the first financial quarter ended June 30, 2014 rose 391% to RM 7.47 million from RM1.52 million a year ago.


We check the profit report...

The balance sheet....

user posted image

NOT difficult to see one....

look for money...

see CASH and BANK BALANCES ... then look for borrowings...

20 million cash, hardly any borrowings.

Strong and healthy balance sheet, no?

Clearly not the strongest balance sheet, cash flow not that impressive, no dividends and of course poor past profit record...
yup.... not the most ideal investment stock.......

user posted image

BUT... things are looking for the better..... yes?

7 million profit for first quarter = 8.7 sen eps already (ahh... so high eps number, straight away we know number of shares is very small - only 85 million shares.. easy to fry)

This is where I note something weird with that comments from RHB.
Usually RHB's numbers very sky high one...
but this time around...
the forecast numbers were extremely low....

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She maintains a “BUY” recommendation on the company, with a higher RM2.03 fair value from RM1.84  pegged to a FY15F P/E of 12.5 times


As pointed out in the posting the other day (which no one bother to reply me... cry.gif )
The fair value is based on FY15F. (this stands for Fiscal Year 2015 estimate)
In the attached report, FY15F is only 13.8 million.....

I was like.... what???
First quarter alone already 7 million mar...
the next 3 quarters of the year...
this company can only make a profit of 6 million plus only meh?

why so..... err ....... conservative?

Look...
if annualised ...
ie assume all the rest of the quarters earn lebih kurang same profit...
we are looking at 7 mil x 4 = 28 million.
or in terms of eps...
we are looking at 8.7 x 4 = 34.8 sen eps wor....
if use the same pe of 12.5
we are looking at 12.5 x 34.8 = 4.35

!!!

Yup... a possible fair value of 4.35.
And the stock price then was about 1.41.....

So how?

If use lower fair value....
say 10x pe...
also we come up with a fair value of maybe 3.48!!!!

so fundamentally...
it appears the stock is much undervalued despite the big gap up!!!!

So from a fundamental point of view...
this stock looks can bet. LOL!

What chart say?
Chart say breakout from a loose stock pattern.
Chase or don't chase?

*whistle*

And this is where we are at right now................

user posted image

the first decent pullback after the strong run.....

*whistle*

Does fundamental helps the trader?

Can the trader afford to be handicapped not knowing a company's fundamentals?



Yes... when I first started......
one of the early teachings is..........................

it's all in the charts.....
forget the news...
forget the fundamentals.......

*whistle*


I tell you hor...
if you are in the market long enough..........
you will soon realize....
that there's so much more to it than that.

*whistle*

hehehe.... I see 3 downloads.... tongue.gif

This post has been edited by Boon3: Sep 18 2014, 07:18 PM
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post Sep 18 2014, 07:28 PM

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What the homeritz main director doing? transfer to who?
http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed...cements/1742557

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