Bursa Traders V5
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 Jun 15 2014, 01:16 PM
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i'm trying to find a suitable venue for boon3 to conduct his seminar
 back to the pdz issue... i think what boon3 is trying to explain is fundamentals of the stock. study the background of the stock before making the decision. but if you still wanna go in because of market excitement then make sure you have an exit plan if it does not goes according to plan. |
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Jun 15 2014, 06:13 PM
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493 posts Joined: Apr 2011
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 14 2014, 11:04 PM) Maybe this chart can help you a bit to decide whether to sell, or to hold..... ya, i saw the trend that time and that's why i bought PDZ. but i not really sure about the situation of PDZ now.  A trader will know what to do..... good luck!   i also saw someone analyse that PDZ is forming cup and handle in previous trend and it is forming another now. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « i understand greed is a motivation, but some people is like when see the stock up, they always thought it can up more and end up earn lesser than when they should sell it. and what am i suppose to do now? should i sell it and wait for other better time for better stock? how to become a good trader or invester? collect experience ? QUOTE(Tripod @ Jun 15 2014, 01:16 PM) i'm trying to find a suitable venue for boon3 to conduct his seminar he did gave me a lot of good lesson back to the pdz issue... i think what boon3 is trying to explain is fundamentals of the stock. study the background of the stock before making the decision. but if you still wanna go in because of market excitement then make sure you have an exit plan if it does not goes according to plan.  and thanks for your lesson... |
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Jun 15 2014, 06:41 PM
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897 posts Joined: Sep 2008
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QUOTE(alpha91 @ Jun 15 2014, 06:13 PM) ya, i saw the trend that time and that's why i bought PDZ. but i not really sure about the situation of PDZ now. Hence that's why I posted the chart, since you said you buy because you saw the trend, from the chart I posted also you can see the trend is still up. However you're now at the junction, it may break the trend, or it may rebound and resume the trend....i also saw someone analyse that PDZ is forming cup and handle in previous trend and it is forming another now. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « i understand greed is a motivation, but some people is like when see the stock up, they always thought it can up more and end up earn lesser than when they should sell it. and what am i suppose to do now? should i sell it and wait for other better time for better stock? how to become a good trader or invester? collect experience ? he did gave me a lot of good lesson and thanks for your lesson... That is the situation now. If you cut now, what if it's rebound? mind you, everyone will be looking at the same thing, and if everyone think it will rebound, chances are that it may self fulfil (coz everyone will buy....) However, what if it does not rebound as you HOPE (This is a very dangerous word for traders)? Where do you cut your loss now? Since you said previously you now consider yourself as a trader now, a trader will have a proper EXIT STRATEGY, and will not hesitate to execute it. My gut tells me that you want to cut, but you want someone else to justify it for you. |
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Jun 15 2014, 10:15 PM
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1,497 posts Joined: Dec 2005
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Yay, welcome back ciahcra. Good to see you back here
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Jun 15 2014, 11:12 PM
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897 posts Joined: Sep 2008
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Jun 15 2014, 10:15 PM) Yay, welcome back ciahcra. Good to see you back here hehe thank you. but can't really be active as before la.What stocks to buy also I don't know already, so I better stay on a sideline and wait for a crash or play FCPO......lel |
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Jun 16 2014, 07:42 AM
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15,942 posts Joined: Jun 2008
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QUOTE(alpha91 @ Jun 15 2014, 06:13 PM) i understand greed is a motivation, but some people is like when see the stock up, they always thought it can up more and end up earn lesser than when they should sell it. You become greedy because you know your analysis is correct. There is a fine line, however.... sometimes many cannot draw the difference between been correct and their own emotions-filled perception. If your analysis is correct and you know your trading concepts up , you will not have that problem. And good traders know they will never be able to sell at the maximum prices all the time. QUOTE(alpha91 @ Jun 15 2014, 06:13 PM) how to become a good trader or invester? collect experience ? And then do fake (paper) trading / investing for a few years. Never jump into the market and hope you learn from your mistakes. To jump in and learn from your mistakes is the worst advice ever. If you are not ready, do not play the market. Winning the stock market is like winning a war. Have you heard people going to war and hope to win as they learn from their mistakes in their battles? Lose a battle, you die. You cannot be like Tom Cruise in the Edge of Tomorrow. There is no freaking reset button. Same with shares. Mistakes is money lost. Big mistakes is big money lost. Big, big mistakes? That can wipe you out of your money and even your underwear!  So never be foolish and accept idiotic comments like you need to pay tuition fees in the market. Some tuition fees can literally kill you. Study well, prepare well.... just like you are going into a real war. Train, train, train....... do all the fake (paper) trading. Learn your mistakes there! It is free!!!!!!!! |
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Jun 16 2014, 09:11 AM
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493 posts Joined: Apr 2011
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QUOTE(ciahcra @ Jun 15 2014, 06:41 PM) Hence that's why I posted the chart, since you said you buy because you saw the trend, from the chart I posted also you can see the trend is still up. However you're now at the junction, it may break the trend, or it may rebound and resume the trend.... yes... i really dont know i should sell or wait now. That is the situation now. If you cut now, what if it's rebound? mind you, everyone will be looking at the same thing, and if everyone think it will rebound, chances are that it may self fulfil (coz everyone will buy....) However, what if it does not rebound as you HOPE (This is a very dangerous word for traders)? Where do you cut your loss now? Since you said previously you now consider yourself as a trader now, a trader will have a proper EXIT STRATEGY, and will not hesitate to execute it. My gut tells me that you want to cut, but you want someone else to justify it for you.  QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 16 2014, 07:42 AM) No. ok... thanks for all the lesson. really thank you very much You become greedy because you know your analysis is correct. There is a fine line, however.... sometimes many cannot draw the difference between been correct and their own emotions-filled perception. If your analysis is correct and you know your trading concepts up , you will not have that problem. And good traders know they will never be able to sell at the maximum prices all the time. Read, read and read. And then do fake (paper) trading / investing for a few years. Never jump into the market and hope you learn from your mistakes. To jump in and learn from your mistakes is the worst advice ever. If you are not ready, do not play the market. Winning the stock market is like winning a war. Have you heard people going to war and hope to win as they learn from their mistakes in their battles? Lose a battle, you die. You cannot be like Tom Cruise in the Edge of Tomorrow. There is no freaking reset button. Same with shares. Mistakes is money lost. Big mistakes is big money lost. Big, big mistakes? That can wipe you out of your money and even your underwear! So never be foolish and accept idiotic comments like you need to pay tuition fees in the market. Some tuition fees can literally kill you. Study well, prepare well.... just like you are going into a real war. Train, train, train....... do all the fake (paper) trading. Learn your mistakes there! It is free!!!!!!!!  |
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Jun 16 2014, 09:48 AM
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2,635 posts Joined: Jun 2011 From: bohtakchik
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Look at brahims.... and i almost bought at 1.81 for short term takings *but* had no confidence.
bleh... Anyway, i was right with the spot |
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Jun 16 2014, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Jun 16 2014, 09:48 AM) Look at brahims.... and i almost bought at 1.81 for short term takings *but* had no confidence. bleh.... bleh... Anyway, i was right with the spot You cannot win such stuff one.  See the argument was Brahim's fortunes tied with MAS. leave fundamentals aside... the day... err.... MAS was said .... to be allowed to go.... bankrupt.... was on 19th May. 19th May, MAS was at 21 sen, Brahims at 2.07. MAS collapsed to 15 sen nia.... Brahims... fell to as low as 1.80. If there is a reversal of fortune... buy MAS or buy Bra? Mas is now 20 sen. up 5 sen from 15 sen. Brahim now only 1.93. up 13 sen from low of 1.83.  |
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Jun 16 2014, 10:05 AM
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2,635 posts Joined: Jun 2011 From: bohtakchik
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 16 2014, 10:00 AM) bleh.... Why cannot win? I spotted based on chart and it went up You cannot win such stuff one. See the argument was Brahim's fortunes tied with MAS. leave fundamentals aside... the day... err.... MAS was said .... to be allowed to go.... bankrupt.... was on 19th May. 19th May, MAS was at 21 sen, Brahims at 2.07. MAS collapsed to 15 sen nia.... Brahims... fell to as low as 1.80. If there is a reversal of fortune... buy MAS or buy Bra? Mas is now 20 sen. up 5 sen from 15 sen. Brahim now only 1.93. up 13 sen from low of 1.83. Don't care about comparison with MAS. It was brahims specifically mah. MAS dowan to touch ler, like how gark used to put it, stay away with a x-inch stick or something like that. Anyway crux of the matter is, short term rakes safer, anytime, for now |
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Jun 16 2014, 10:08 AM
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2,635 posts Joined: Jun 2011 From: bohtakchik
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Go go homer
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Jun 16 2014, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Jun 16 2014, 10:05 AM) Why cannot win? I spotted based on chart and it went up Ok you win. Don't care about comparison with MAS. It was brahims specifically mah. MAS dowan to touch ler, like how gark used to put it, stay away with a x-inch stick or something like that. Anyway crux of the matter is, short term rakes safer, anytime, for now |
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Jun 16 2014, 10:13 AM
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2,635 posts Joined: Jun 2011 From: bohtakchik
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 16 2014, 10:10 AM) Ok you win. If i bought at that price i wanted, i would have exited by now for brahims Come come... let's root for homer |
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Jun 16 2014, 11:59 AM
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2,635 posts Joined: Jun 2011 From: bohtakchik
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Woweeee... ah bra so geng
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Jun 16 2014, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Jun 16 2014, 10:13 AM) If i bought at that price i wanted, i would have exited by now for brahims Always gostan..Come come... let's root for homer |
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Jun 16 2014, 12:23 PM
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2,635 posts Joined: Jun 2011 From: bohtakchik
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QUOTE(tstan8_8 @ Jun 16 2014, 12:21 PM) Always gostan.. Yeah... sucks... |
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Jun 16 2014, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Jun 16 2014, 11:59 AM) Woweeee... ah bra so geng Bra to climb back up 30% from its low of 1.80? |
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Jun 16 2014, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Jun 16 2014, 12:23 PM) Yeah... Told you it scared of noise one ma..... sucks... Dividend cheque sudah dapat ah? |
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Jun 16 2014, 01:36 PM
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2,635 posts Joined: Jun 2011 From: bohtakchik
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 16 2014, 01:09 PM) Bra to climb back up 30% from its low of 1.80? Dunno, short term profit.. don't care lor. Got a forumer here bought last week.. good for him/her QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 16 2014, 01:10 PM) Told you it scared of noise one ma..... Takda cheque.. e-dividend, straight bank in lol. Dividend cheque sudah dapat ah? Very little la... no kick wan Yours sure huge sum |
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Jun 16 2014, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Jun 16 2014, 01:36 PM) Dunno, short term profit.. don't care lor. Got a forumer here bought last week.. good for him/her Yeah, could have got at 1.70-1.80 last week and made almost 15-20% by today. Always missing out.... |
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