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takumin_86
post Aug 15 2014, 12:03 PM

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Tested the Shenlongs buff today. I'm running a holy monk. Swapped my TF with Shenlongs and DS with TR. Found that TR can trigger the fireball. I'm using 3 monk sets (Shenlongs+Monkey+Inna).

Attack: Use TR (500% holy damage) + trigger fireball (1600% weapon) + trigger SWK clone (3500% holy) + EP SS (2770% holy) @ 76% increased holy damage

Regen: Air Ally+Exalted Soul+Inna+Epiphany+EP SS
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post Aug 15 2014, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(takumin_86 @ Aug 15 2014, 12:03 PM)
Tested the Shenlongs buff today. I'm running a holy monk. Swapped my TF with Shenlongs and DS with TR. Found that TR can trigger the fireball. I'm using 3 monk sets (Shenlongs+Monkey+Inna).

Attack: Use TR (500% holy damage) + trigger fireball (1600% weapon) + trigger SWK clone (3500% holy) + EP SS (2770% holy) @ 76% increased holy damage

Regen: Air Ally+Exalted Soul+Inna+Epiphany+EP SS
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can get pass grift 31?
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post Aug 15 2014, 02:12 PM

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sheattt..... look like PTR ending soon... and monk still a piece of sheatttt...

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/15198719/i...witch-8-14-2014
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post Aug 15 2014, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Aug 15 2014, 02:12 PM)
sheattt..... look like PTR ending soon... and monk still a piece of sheatttt...

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/15198719/i...witch-8-14-2014
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post Aug 15 2014, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Aug 15 2014, 12:07 PM)
can get pass grift 31?
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grift 13 can kua flex.gif TR..lol.....classic hit and run..

1 week liao no log in...no moods liao..see monk hampa liao...haihhhh icon_question.gif
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post Aug 15 2014, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Aug 15 2014, 03:58 PM)
grift 13 can kua  flex.gif  TR..lol.....classic hit and run..

1 week liao no log in...no moods liao..see monk hampa liao...haihhhh icon_question.gif
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you should play your WD... got Kukri already? brows.gif
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post Aug 15 2014, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Aug 15 2014, 04:39 PM)
you should play your WD... got Kukri already?  brows.gif
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Kukri? icon_question.gif chances you cowithgun getting married higher than finding a SMK..tongue.gif
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post Aug 15 2014, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(gladfly @ Aug 15 2014, 04:43 PM)
Kukri? icon_question.gif  chances you cowithgun getting married higher than finding a SMK..tongue.gif
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true.. rclxms.gif
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post Aug 16 2014, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Aug 15 2014, 12:07 PM)
can get pass grift 31?
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swapped TR with LTK: Scorpion for the stun effect and gain buff from Relentless Assault. ditched Cindercoat and put on Blackthorne's for elite dmg and ground immunity. currently on GRift 18 clearing ~4min. got myself the Wealth of Lightning gem (600% lightning charge) and the poison dmg gem (2000% poison) so gonna continue with that later.
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post Aug 16 2014, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(takumin_86 @ Aug 16 2014, 08:29 AM)
swapped TR with LTK: Scorpion for the stun effect and gain buff from Relentless Assault. ditched Cindercoat and put on Blackthorne's for elite dmg and ground immunity. currently on GRift 18 clearing ~4min. got myself the Wealth of Lightning gem (600% lightning charge) and the poison dmg gem (2000% poison) so gonna continue with that later.
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i always think Blackthorne is slightly overrated... i don't usually die from those ground effect (except may be molten explosion tongue.gif). Blackthorne didn't protect me against things that can kill me; arcane, fire-chain, thunderstorm, etc

IMO the buffed Harmony and 6th Sense is all i need smile.gif they becoming more important after grift 26...

i got a pretty good shen long set:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/cowithg...84/hero/2367940

i just wish the fireball they do lighting / holy damage instead of fire...

please share your progress...

ps: shenlong will be getting more buff! thanks to Druin and John Yang! this is the type of response from developer i love to see!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13839303805?page=3#58

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Aug 16 2014, 10:21 AM
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post Aug 16 2014, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Aug 16 2014, 09:45 AM)
i always think Blackthorne is slightly overrated... i don't usually die from those ground effect (except may be molten explosion tongue.gif). Blackthorne didn't protect me against things that can kill me; arcane, fire-chain, thunderstorm, etc

IMO the buffed Harmony and 6th Sense is all i need smile.gif they becoming more important after grift 26...

i got a pretty good shen long set:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/cowithg...84/hero/2367940

i just wish the fireball they do lighting / holy damage instead of fire...

please share your progress...

ps: shenlong will be getting more buff! thanks to Druin and John Yang! this is the type of response from developer i love to see!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13839303805?page=3#58
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+1 to john yang and druin!!!

Been waiting for shenlong buff since D3V.. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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post Aug 16 2014, 03:25 PM

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WOW The BUFF really GOOD in the first 1min. tongue.gif tongue.gif



IMO monk are improving in the damage section (hopefully have good news before 2.1 is release). But, damage mitigation is still a big issue for monk as we are a melee class.. see how fast my HP drop in T6 RIF. Wondering how monk gonna sustain in GR when this is still a big issue. Till they fix damage mitigation, i'll just continue to play DH. doh.gif doh.gif
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post Aug 16 2014, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(fe3doe @ Aug 16 2014, 03:25 PM)
WOW The BUFF really GOOD in the first 1min.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif

IMO monk are improving in the damage section (hopefully have good news before 2.1 is release). But, damage mitigation is still a big issue for monk as we are a melee class.. see how fast my HP drop in T6 RIF. Wondering how monk gonna sustain in GR when this is still a big issue.  Till they fix damage mitigation, i'll just continue to play DH.  doh.gif  doh.gif
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nice video! mitigation is pretty good considering you are not using double unity and 6th sense...

damage can further improved if you stack Holy (instead of lightning) since decoy is holy based damage... but even if you do, i'd say our damage is still not quite there yet... i m comparing with M6, WD, sader's Roland... sweat.gif
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Cry not my comrade monks, barbs arent any better in terms of dmg.

we are the underdogs.
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post Aug 16 2014, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Aug 16 2014, 09:45 AM)
i always think Blackthorne is slightly overrated... i don't usually die from those ground effect (except may be molten explosion tongue.gif). Blackthorne didn't protect me against things that can kill me; arcane, fire-chain, thunderstorm, etc

IMO the buffed Harmony and 6th Sense is all i need smile.gif they becoming more important after grift 26...

i got a pretty good shen long set:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/cowithg...84/hero/2367940

i just wish the fireball they do lighting / holy damage instead of fire...

please share your progress...

ps: shenlong will be getting more buff! thanks to Druin and John Yang! this is the type of response from developer i love to see!

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13839303805?page=3#58
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barely survived GR22.. died twice and lost time running from checkpoint but managed to finish with 0 minute 0 second remaining

planning to switch to daibo for higher dps and 20% buff
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hi monks. its been quiet in the temple. i just came in have a water, gonna go back to meditation now.
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post Aug 20 2014, 10:14 PM

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Tested Suwuko set with Flying Dragon. Managed to complete Grift 27 with almost 2 minutes left.

Don't really like 2H... I still hope Blizzard can make Raiment set super awesome for DW...


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post Aug 21 2014, 11:04 AM

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i am so angry when i read this

"Ideally, each class should be within a couple Greater Rift tiers of one another. Our latest internal testing, where we often copy actual characters from players in the PTR and run them through Greater Rifts, shows that we're pretty close. "


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13923582286


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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Aug 21 2014, 11:04 AM)
i am so angry when i read this

"Ideally, each class should be within a couple Greater Rift tiers of one another. Our latest internal testing, where we often copy actual characters from players in the PTR and run them through Greater Rifts, shows that we're pretty close. "


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13923582286
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Keyword, ideally.

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... we want each class performing similarly and with fewer outliers before we introduce new play styles.
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You can expect some works on monk.
It's either nerf others buff monk or buff monk all the way (through gears and skills).
I believe the latter is a more possible solution.

Assuming the toughness has been taken care of by implementing 1 DEX = 1 armor.
For me, it is very easy to fix monk. I do not know why Blizz took so long.
It's gear based game. Give monk some kickarse weapon like "Starmetal kukri". Blizz just needs to fix that.
And buff the skills like Epiphany. It is pathetic as compared to Akarat's Champion, WoTB and Archon.
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post Aug 21 2014, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Aug 21 2014, 11:21 AM)
Keyword, ideally.

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... we want each class performing similarly and with fewer outliers before we introduce new play styles.
Unquote

You can expect some works on monk.
It's either nerf others buff monk or buff monk all the way (through gears and skills).
I believe the latter is a more possible solution.

Assuming the toughness has been taken care of by implementing 1 DEX = 1 armor.
For me, it is very easy to fix monk. I do not know why Blizz took so long.
It's gear based game. Give monk some kickarse weapon like "Starmetal kukri". Blizz just needs to fix that.
And buff the skills like Epiphany. It is pathetic as compared to Akarat's Champion, WoTB and Archon.
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Actually we have some kickarse items : Fist of Az and sledgefist....but it was too OP in team play hence was nerfed to oblivion. Just like how Furnace was killed off and Rimeheart too. Catch 22 position, epic legs which are hard to find is nerfed to be non epic, which totally defeats the concept of item hunt.

All I can say is Dong Vu doesn't care....

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