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post Jun 2 2014, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Igrix @ Jun 2 2014, 02:31 PM)
if solo play is comfortable but if party with others ppl i cant do shit. Althought i not always die but still hardly deal any damage to monster even white color 1. If alone kill elite at least take 2 minute...
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yes, monk have shitty dmg output when running in party.
monk is likely a support class in a party.
the only thing you can do to improve better dmg output in the party is reserve a skill for exploding palm to combo with epiphany to bring down the elites group.

please check cowithgun & gladfly profile & setup.
they can kills elites pretty fast in T4/T5 party. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 2 2014, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Jun 2 2014, 01:56 PM)
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Please update new builds for monk in the 1st page.
i.e. fire build with skill setup and recommended gears.
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(actually only T4, T6 is leeching Moba)
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post Jun 2 2014, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Jun 2 2014, 02:33 PM)
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i believe cow have more than enough gears to play with each of the elemental build.
strongly suggest cow to provide the recommendation on gears to be used for each builds. laugh.gif
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agree, while we stucked at one particular build looking for another.
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post Jun 2 2014, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Jun 2 2014, 02:47 PM)
yes, monk have shitty dmg output when running in party.
monk is likely a support class in a party.
the only thing you can do to improve better dmg output in the party is reserve a skill for exploding palm to combo with epiphany to bring down the elites group.

please check cowithgun & gladfly profile & setup.
they can kills elites pretty fast in T4/T5 party. biggrin.gif
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See and ask cow.. don't ask me. Cow still laugh at me and call me noob cowithgun

Anyway..+1 bro ..monks are the new 4th follower. We are there to provide EP + CS. If can blind/stun/ freeze lagi best.

If want to steamroll stuff..build a Crusader... shotgun them all to hell!!
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post Jun 2 2014, 04:44 PM

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post Jun 2 2014, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(Igrix @ Jun 2 2014, 01:55 PM)
Hi all the respectfully sifus here, can give me some suggestion on improving my survivallity in higher torment o not. Was stuck at t2 and cant go any further due to the low damage... Pls help
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/igrix-1523/hero/29761622
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IMHO, i feel you have way too much VIT / Life. Im only surviving with 400+, should be well enough if your resist is high enough and you kill fast enough moreover you have Paragon to help you on Life%.

Helm - Change the VIT to CiC, since you will be playing Lightning, so wont need to change Helm.

Probably continue to craft better items in Cain and Aughild, to get your preferred Resistance, as I see all your resistance over the place.

And also good luck hunting for weapons.


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post Jun 3 2014, 08:58 AM

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Thx all the sifu for guiding me. Actually i tried many times to change vit into critical chance but the transmog fees are too much, it already raised to 2million+, i was actually grinding for andariel but sad case i haven get 1 yet... And last question is--> I got 1 soj but if i equip it it will decrease around 130k dps compare to the ring i equip now. So do i need to equip this soj or stay on the old ring? Cos i dun feel any differences when switching this 2 ring vs elites. But when i equip soj it really slowed down me clearing the white mobs... So actually do it worth to equip soj while losing around 130k dps?

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post Jun 3 2014, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Igrix @ Jun 3 2014, 08:58 AM)
Thx all the sifu for guiding me. Actually i tried many times to change vit into critical chance but the transmog fees are too much, it already raised to 2million+, i was actually grinding for andariel but sad case i haven get 1 yet... And last question is--> I got 1 soj but if i equip it it will decrease around 130k dps compare to the ring i equip now. So do i need to equip this soj or stay on the old ring? Cos i dun feel any differences when switching this 2 ring vs elites. But when i equip soj it really slowed down me clearing the white mobs... So actually do it worth to equip soj while losing around 130k dps?
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the SoJ is definitely better against elites as you are running lightning build.
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QUOTE(dreaming @ Jun 2 2014, 02:33 PM)
cowithgun

i believe cow have more than enough gears to play with each of the elemental build.
strongly suggest cow to provide the recommendation on gears to be used for each builds. laugh.gif
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Not enough storage, sad to salvage some really good stuff. Don't think I can give recommendation for each build, but I will start with what I have in mind, hopefully some situ will correct/improve it and goblin yuhhaur can consolidate and put it into first page.

Fire Monk

Requirement:
Gears: Gyana Na Kashu, Magefist, Cindercoat, SOJ, amulet and bracer with %fire skill damage
Optional gears: Firewalker (fire damage created by the boot scale with your %fire skill damage and can really kill mobs chasing you) and Warzechian Armguards (fire walker / epiphany inner fire break wreakable and boost your speed)
Weapons: Axe of Sangkis, Devastator (crafted weapon)
Skill: WoTHF - Blazing fist, Epiphany - Inner fire, Sweeping wind - Firestorm, Lashing Tail Kick - Vulture Kick
Alternative skill: Wave of Light - Bursting Wave for easy low level farming.
Passive: Exalted Soul (increase Spirit pool)
Alternative skill - No spirit generator, but must have enough Cool Down Reduction to spam Epiphany to recover spirit.
Characteristics: TR / walk thru white mobs / gather them, build up spirit. See Elite? Spam LTK (you can press and hold the skill to keep spamming it). When spirit depleting, activate Epiphany and keep spamming LTK. Ideally, you should kill the Elite before your Epiphany timeout.
Sample: (With video)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry67419489


Holy Monk

Requirement:
Gears: SOJ, amulet and bracer with %holy skill damage. Stack +WoTHF damage in belt and pant. Stack +WoL damage in Helm and boot. Andareil's Visage with holy damage.
Weapons: Skycutter and Thunderfury.
Skill: WoTHF - Fist of Fury, Empowered Wave, 7SS (Fulminating Onslaught)
Passive: Mystic Rhythm
Characteristics: WoTHF is the best spirit generator at the moment. Not really because it get you a lot of spirit but because it's damage and incredible proc to LoH. Pair with Thunderfury, you basically can just punch all white mobs to death. Drop a bell every now and then to kill Elite. Our spirit spender is a little weak at the moment, otherwise this is actually very fun to play.
Sample: (With video)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry67467319

Lightning Monk

Requirement:
Gears: Eye of the Storm (Spirit stone), Thundergod's Vigor (belt), 3 set bonus of Raiment of Thousand Storm, SOJ, amulet and bracer with %lightning skill damage. Stack +WoTHF damage in belt and pant. Stack +WoL damage in Helm and boot if you use Wave of Light.
Weapons: Odyn's Son / Thunderfury / Shard of Hatred and WKL.
Skill: Wave of Light (Pillar of the Ancient) / LTK (Stinging Kick), WoTHF - Hand of Lightning (this skill is super strong and scale with lighting damage)
Passive: Mystic Rhythm
Characteristics: WoTHF is the best spirit generator at the moment. Not really because it get you a lot of spirit but because it's damage and incredible proc to LoH. Pair with Thunderfury / SoH, you basically can just punch all white mobs to death. Drop a bell / LTK every now and then to kill Elite. Our spirit spender is a little weak at the moment, otherwise this is actually very fun to play.
Sample: (With video)
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry67461277

Physical Monk

Requirement:
Gears: SOJ, amulet and bracer with %physical skill damage. Stack +WoL damage in Helm and boot if you use Wave of Light. Strongarm (bracer that make mobs takes up to 30% damage after knockback)
Weapons: Fist of Azturrasq, Doombringer / Sunkeeper (increase damage against Elite) / TF
Skill: Explosive Palm (Fresh is weak), Wave of Light (Wall of Light), Cyclone Strike (Pulling will trigger Strongarm proc too)
Passive: Mystic Rhythm
Characteristics: Physical monk is still the strongest monk build there is due to EP. The %physical damage will make the mobs explode beyond their maximum HP.
Sample: (With video)
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry67779903

Cold Monk:

Requirement:
Gears: Frostburn, SOJ, amulet and bracer with %cold skill damage. Stack +WoL damage in Helm and boot if you use Wave of Light. Strongarm (bracer that make mobs takes up to 30% damage after knockback)
Weapons: Rimeheart and Fist of Azturrasq / Doombringer / Sunkeeper (increase damage against Elite) / TF
Skill: Explosive Palm (Fresh is weak), Wave of Light (Numbing wave), Cyclone Strike (Pulling will trigger Strongarm proc too)
Passive: Mystic Rhythm
Characteristics: This is EP to the next level. Frostburn turn cold attack into freezing, Rimeheart 10% chance to instantly kill the white mobs trigger EP and kill everything else.
Sample: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/12946014582

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post Jun 3 2014, 12:28 PM

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Some said Cold Monk is the true end game for Monk. Need to farm Cold gear if that's right :/
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Jun 3 2014, 11:37 AM)
Not enough storage, sad to salvage some really good stuff. Don't think I can give recommendation for each build, but I will start with what I have in mind, hopefully some situ will correct/improve it and goblin yuhhaur can consolidate and put it into first page.
ALL HAIL madcow holycow! notworthy.gif

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Nice one Cow....where u gone?..MIA 2 days lel...I

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QUOTE(Igrix @ Jun 3 2014, 08:58 AM)
Thx all the sifu for guiding me. Actually i tried many times to change vit into critical chance but the transmog fees are too much, it already raised to 2million+, i was actually grinding for andariel but sad case i haven get 1 yet... And last question is--> I got 1 soj but if i equip it it will decrease around 130k dps compare to the ring i equip now. So do i need to equip this soj or stay on the old ring? Cos i dun feel any differences when switching this 2 ring vs elites. But when i equip soj it really slowed down me clearing the white mobs... So actually do it worth to equip soj while losing around 130k dps?
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Mainly because your SoJ doesnt have CiC, hence the difference in it in DPS. Paper dps is not really that important IMHO, stack as much elemental damage as you can to help in white mobs alongside pants and belts to stack skill damage, and then focus more on specific weapon depending on what elemental build you are building.

As you can see from my profile, i stack Holy, as you are stacking Lightning, try moving towards that.

Good luck.
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post Jun 4 2014, 10:22 AM

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dear monk sifu

which elemental monk is an end game monk ah
im now currently on lightning monk
kinda fun to play with
but i doubt it will survive t6 tho

heres my profile
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sylar-1885/hero/39793308


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QUOTE(johnny82 @ Jun 4 2014, 10:22 AM)
dear monk sifu

which elemental monk is an end game monk ah
im now currently on lightning monk
kinda fun to play with
but i doubt it will survive t6 tho

heres my profile
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sylar-1885/hero/39793308
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Hi Johnny82,

To answer your question..fire element is the DPS wise strongest as 2 additional slots to stack fire % sillz (Cindercoat + Magefist). Lightning is currently ok..and so is physical and so on. In higher Torment, EP is essential.

End game monk currently, i.e to do t6 rift in 12mins is based on a gimmick (more like a bug) using frostburns gloves + Rimeheart + EP. Shattering frozen EPed mobs while you run at 0 DPS / max EHP. RG is the only problem, but that can be solved by using Furnace mace (6-8% life damage chance. Have fun trying out all builds
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QUOTE(gladfly @ Jun 4 2014, 10:48 AM)
Hi Johnny82,

To answer your question..fire element is the DPS wise strongest as 2 additional slots to stack fire % sillz (Cindercoat + Magefist). Lightning is currently ok..and so is physical and so on. In higher Torment, EP is essential.

End game monk currently, i.e to do t6 rift in 12mins is based on a gimmick (more like a bug) using frostburns gloves + Rimeheart + EP. Shattering frozen EPed mobs while you run at 0 DPS / max EHP. RG is the only problem, but that can be solved by using Furnace mace (6-8% life damage chance. Have fun trying out all  builds
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what set item they use for fire mage tho? is inna 4 set bonus essential for fire mage? or is the all mantra up bonus kinda useless?
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what set item they use for fire mage tho? is inna 4 set bonus essential for fire mage? or is the all mantra up bonus kinda useless?
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It is listed my our holy cowithgun a few post up there. If you still having problem looking for it, try page 1 where various builds are posted.
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QUOTE(johnny82 @ Jun 4 2014, 10:53 AM)
what set item they use for fire mage tho? is inna 4 set bonus essential for fire mage? or is the all mantra up bonus kinda useless?
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Aughilds set is a must..and the rest can mix and match.

I have Inna 4 set and currently playing with it...to be honest..4 mantras is pretty nice but its not end game.
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QUOTE(Igrix @ Jun 2 2014, 01:55 PM)
Hi all the respectfully sifus here, can give me some suggestion on improving my survivallity in higher torment o not. Was stuck at t2 and cant go any further due to the low damage... Pls help
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/igrix-1523/hero/29761622
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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/13019502236
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QUOTE(Igrix @ Jun 3 2014, 08:58 AM)
Thx all the sifu for guiding me. Actually i tried many times to change vit into critical chance but the transmog fees are too much, it already raised to 2million+, i was actually grinding for andariel but sad case i haven get 1 yet... And last question is--> I got 1 soj but if i equip it it will decrease around 130k dps compare to the ring i equip now. So do i need to equip this soj or stay on the old ring? Cos i dun feel any differences when switching this 2 ring vs elites. But when i equip soj it really slowed down me clearing the white mobs... So actually do it worth to equip soj while losing around 130k dps?
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in all seriousness http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Quazaco...16/hero/5878974
see that 6cc SOJ? spent over 50 FS and 50mil gold (seriously lost count), still can't roll it to lightning elemental. oh wells.

hope that helps, most of the gears can be farmed specifically/crafted, and blackthorne should be relatively easy to drop (or party, and trade FS as people hate that shit anyways)

i started with BT then raiment as they drop for 15% lightning smile.gif

also, ignore paper dps, look at this:
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/quazaco...azacolt/5878974
on paper 600k, edps is almost 2mil.

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