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 Monk Discussion V7, RoS:The perfection of Seven Sided Strike

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Eywh77
post Nov 17 2014, 10:12 PM

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my monk meditating in cave....sigh! sad.gif
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post Nov 18 2014, 07:58 AM

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Incoming PTR 2.1.2 datamined

http://www.diablofans.com/news/48257-ptr-p...2-1-2-datamined

MonsterNames
RareGenericPrefix053 - Lylirra
RareGenericPrefix054 - Nevalistis
RareGenericPrefix055 - Grimuku

DH has most changes in skill. Monk is left in the cold again...

Templar's Inspired skill changes?

Templar

Inspire Increases your resource generation. / Mana: 13 per second. / Hatred: 1 per second. / Wrath: 1 per second. / Arcane Power: 1 per second. / Fury: 1000% generated. / Spirit: 1000% generated.

It's 10% at the moment. Think that's just typo.

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Nov 18 2014, 07:58 AM
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post Nov 18 2014, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 17 2014, 08:48 PM)
my monk lauya only. toufu level. cannot even reach grift 30.  cry.gif
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i did change my skill set and swap Wave of Light with LTK and i must say i can kill faster now
just have to work on my survivability...but all in all my monk improved because of your advice. thanks bro!
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post Nov 18 2014, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(pangke @ Nov 18 2014, 08:06 AM)
i did change my skill set and swap Wave of Light with LTK and i must say i can kill faster now
just have to work on my survivability...but all in all my monk improved because of your advice. thanks bro!
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post Nov 19 2014, 10:05 AM

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gogo cowithgun

ptr is up!
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post Nov 19 2014, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(waklu @ Nov 19 2014, 10:05 AM)
gogo cowithgun

ptr is up!
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omai! you are fast! i will test it for sure. Thinking of building a no-gen Sunwuko... need to search thru all my stash...

"Monkey King's Garb
Philosophy note: With only some minor adjustments to supporting gear, build, and playstyle, Monks with four pieces of the updated Monkey King’s Garb should be able to match or even exceed their previous best Greater Rift time and level. With a complete optimization of the new Set bonuses, Monks should easily (or at least reliably) exceed their previous best Greater Rift time and level.
Has been redesigned
(2) Set Bonus
Casting Cyclone Strike, Exploding Palm, Lashing Tail Kick, Tempest Rush, or Wave of Light causes a decoy to spawn that taunts nearby enemies and then explodes for 1000% weapon damage
Decoy explosion now deals the damage type of your highest +% Elemental Damage
(4) Set Bonus
Enemies hit by the decoy explosion take 500% more damage from your Cyclone Strike, Exploding Palm, Lashing Tail Kick, Tempest Rush, and Wave of Light abilities for 3 seconds"


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post Nov 19 2014, 08:08 PM

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Video of T6 rift with Holy Bell setup. This is not really optimized but I do have a pretty good 4k Incense. Game play is to use Cyclone Strike to pull mobs and damage them decoy and make them take 500% more damage. I also have StrongArm that add another 30% more damage.

You may see only like 100-ish mil damage from Bell but the way bell work it's actually in 2 phases (used to be 3) so Elite with 500mil HP died in 2 bells. sweat.gif

I still have not swap Gogok out. I suspect Bane of the Trap other other gem will be more suitable since this setup no longer has any cool down.

BELL IS BACK! (But my genwuko still deals more damage and tougher than this setup)

720p is available, but video still processing, so, it will be available shortly.



Another video, this time with Bane of Trap. You will see that I got 120~ mil bell damage. thumbup.gif



Final video for tonight. Bane of Trap, Fire Ally, Unity Passive. Bell 160~ mil damange.



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post Nov 25 2014, 01:41 PM

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cowithgun taiko.. any good things for monk in the new patch? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 26 2014, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(dreaming @ Nov 25 2014, 01:41 PM)
cowithgun taiko.. any good things for monk in the new patch?  biggrin.gif
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Some analysis in the previous page, including gear to look out for:

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry71424045

Some gameplay in my previous post above.

On top of that, Grift is a lot easier now. Nice density. Damage from mobs in higher grift has been greatly reduced. I suspect the improved LoH also play a part. Even though we can no longer spam mantra for huge defense, we should still be able to get higher grift than live server.

However that is not really because monk has huge improvement. The damage, with the right setup, can match genwuko but we lost some defense. So, overall, it's not that great.

Too bad I cannot test much since the Queing time is way too long (33 minutes!).

At this stage, DH is still way too OP compare to monk.

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Nov 26 2014, 11:07 AM
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post Nov 26 2014, 11:59 AM

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Not really related to Diablo... but I really hope this game (Lost Ark) can kick Diablo in the face tongue.gif

I wanna play for hours, for days, for weeks, for months and years and build up my toon! I miss the MMORPG days.



I am choosing Battle Master as my toon for sure!

Battle Master - Elemental System

Battle Master is a female monk who specializes in close range combat she can deliver devastating attacks and combos. However, don't let the hand to hand combat fool you. Battle Masters are very agile and their attacks can be used to chain combos, get out of sticky situations, or initiate combos. Lastly, she can execute special moves by consuming her elemental gauge.

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Here is some kick-ass move by this female monk (starting at 2:09):



This post has been edited by cowithgun: Nov 26 2014, 12:35 PM
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post Nov 26 2014, 01:57 PM

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Wow, this game looks cool man.... shocking.gif
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post Nov 26 2014, 01:57 PM

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Sry, double post...

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post Nov 26 2014, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 26 2014, 11:59 AM)
Not really related to Diablo... but I really hope this game (Lost Ark) can kick Diablo in the face  tongue.gif

I wanna play for hours, for days, for weeks, for months and years and build up my toon! I miss the MMORPG days.



I am choosing Battle Master as my toon for sure!

Battle Master - Elemental System

Battle Master is a female monk who specializes in close range combat she can deliver devastating attacks and combos.  However, don't let the hand to hand combat fool you. Battle Masters are very agile and their attacks can be used to chain combos, get out of sticky situations, or initiate combos. Lastly, she can execute special moves by consuming her elemental gauge.

user posted image

Here is some kick-ass move by this female monk (starting at 2:09):


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wow damn nice, any idea how to get it? start lost hope to Diablo after see the nerf announcement in blizzcon...... What should monk go build now?
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post Nov 26 2014, 06:35 PM

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Lost Ark is too flashy. It's more like a scripted gameplay (remember Diablo 3's first gameplay?) lol

Besides, i heard it was publish by Nexon and it's a F2P game = nope.jpg
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QUOTE(kwwk87 @ Nov 26 2014, 06:35 PM)
Lost Ark is too flashy. It's more like a scripted gameplay (remember Diablo 3's first gameplay?) lol

Besides, i heard it was publish by Nexon and it's a F2P game = nope.jpg
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preeeeettty much. lol
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post Nov 26 2014, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(kwwk87 @ Nov 26 2014, 06:35 PM)
Lost Ark is too flashy. It's more like a scripted gameplay (remember Diablo 3's first gameplay?) lol

Besides, i heard it was publish by Nexon and it's a F2P game = nope.jpg
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 26 2014, 06:46 PM)
preeeeettty much. lol
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I actually like flashy graphics and scripted gameplay. sweat.gif Some of my favorite game belong to these category:

- Devil May Cry
- Dragon Age
- Mass Effect
- Street Fighter 4 (flashy graphic)

However I do think Lost Art has these too:

- Open world / fields
- Demon portal
- Guardian Raid
- PVP

F2P or P2W (pay 2 win) may be bad... but let's see how it goes. If the game is really good, I don't mind supporting it with some cash time/effort, etc.

One thing that really make me sad is that Diablo is still very much in beta. Skill / legendary / set changes in every new major patch will always make old gears obsolete. Days of farming and effort spent invalided in mere hours in every new major patch.
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 26 2014, 09:13 PM)
I actually like flashy graphics and scripted gameplay.  sweat.gif Some of my favorite game belong to these category:

- Devil May Cry
- Street Fighter 4 (flashy graphic)

However I do think Lost Art has these too:

- Open world / fields
- Demon portal
- Guardian Raid
- PVP

One thing that really make me sad is that Diablo is still very much in beta. Skill / legendary / set changes in every new major patch will always make old gears obsolete. Days of farming and effort spent invalided in mere hours in every new major patch.
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Flashy is not bad, however too flashy is bad. Devil May Cry and SF4 is good. I rike them too brows.gif

However, on hack and slash+rpg games like Lost Ark I don't really like too flashy skills (like too over)

Lost Ark's concept design (from the weapons and world) seems alot like God of War+DMC4; Which are really beautiful, however.. It's too flashy.

Regarding the Diablo's future.. Blizzard's game are known to be get better as they aged (at least last time). Let's hope for a better future for Sanctuary laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cowithgun @ Nov 26 2014, 09:13 PM)
One thing that really make me sad is that Diablo is still very much in beta. Skill / legendary / set changes in every new major patch will always make old gears obsolete. Days of farming and effort spent invalided in mere hours in every new major patch.
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i do very much agree it's alpha beta status, however not because changes/new contents.

FOTM (flavor of the month) due to patch changes and new contents are VERY COMMON in almost any mmorpgs.
FOTM can never be avoided because there will ALWAYS be that "best build" on paper/mathematically. (that's why i despise badly scripted fights or PVE in general)

new contents well, they need to keep you playing, right? how else WoW survived over 10 years? lol.

what's really beta is MANY menial/small issues plaguing the damn game.
how long it took blizz to friggin change dodge mechanics?

what about f***ing monk resource/generators?
why does monk have to deal with defense and offense when some other classes can friggin get away with it?
i know 2hand was terribad before, but can we not FORCE everyone to go 2handed?
why is some map utter horse shit?
some RG's are shit EZ while some are just f***ing ridiculous.
RNG, god.
skill bonus RNG, fukken a.
PVP, LOL
balance? what's balance?

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and the list goes on and on.
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post Nov 27 2014, 10:57 AM

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Less and less people online these days...

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post Nov 27 2014, 11:58 AM

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one thing i like about the Lost Ark is details in mini quest which kinda remind me of my favorite RPG of all time. Dungeon Siege II

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