So you are now name calling eh. Let me guess why you took so long to answer. The fact is that I got you cornered and you refuse to answer further because you know that the more you answer the more you look bad on yourself. But the fact is that since you know you are getting exposed real bad, you have to start defending yourself. You see, when even UW starts questioning your belief, not defending yourself will lead to you not taken seriously. Actually you are not taken seriously in the first place. No one actually read your article. People are praising you because you are writing long articles that's all. No one actually reads them. So you should be thankful that I actually read them.

Well.
1) Yes it is referring to believers but then it differs from what you are teaching. If I can recall, you were talking about the 10 Virgins. You were comparing this verse to the passage of the 10 virgins. So what does this has got to do with the virgins and their oil lamps? You see, knowing operus mondi, you will always twist even what you said earlier just to confuse everyone. Again you can confuse others but not me.

2)I have already proven that when Jesus says that he does not knows someone, it means that this person is not His in other words not a believer.
No. Look carefully at the verse. The "workers of iniquity" claims that they did a lot of things under the name of Christ but then Christ did not acknowledge their works. He treated everything they did as iniquity. You see, people like you think that they are doing a lot of work for Christ. But then, when the day comes you will be surprised that Christ will also say that you are a worker on iniquity.

3)So you even know my theology as well. Good Job. It just prove that you do not want to discuss with me because discussing with me will make you look bad. You know that I am not one of those people who get trick so easily and that is why you only discuss with people who are weak in their theology and not me. Nope. Not every person who calls themselves Christians are believers. Not every person who appear to serve the church are believers. In fact the parable of the seed should have given you a clue. Again, you do not even understand the basic calvanistic argument.

4)Nope, as mentioned earlier. Laocidea is talking about God's discipline in this age and not the next. God disciplines his Children but we do not need to be overcomers because the work has already been done on the cross. God can perfect us even though we ourself are not perfected just like the thief on the cross. Christ told the thief that he will in paradise today. There's no maturing process required for the thief. It's pretty clear that you are spreading false hood.

There's nothing that breaks the Camel's back. Actually what break the Camel's back is that you choose to take a previous argument that we had ages ago and use it to substantiate your current argument. If you are confident of yourself why do that? Very simple. You need to defend falsehood because there is no turning back after all.

Nope. God wants us to secure in our faith. There is no need for perfection in the next life. God can perfect us immediately after we die as shown by the verse I provided.

Anyway, James 2 is talking about demonstration of faith through works. The whole new testament talks about justification through faith and here you only have 1 verse that demonstrate works. Now I have been saying all along. That faith needs to be demonstrated through works. In fact, I have always said that when one comes to faith, naturally, he will love the law too because he understands that the law was created by God not only for being obedient to God but then also in order to benefit him. But then while I was debating with UW, you have been silent all this while. The thing is you know you have to be silent because if not then it will be your turn. See, even now your conscience has been seared just so that you can keep your position over here.

Hebrews 11.

Now, you see. When Abraham offers his Son to the alter, it was actually mainly due to faith. It was because of his faith, that he trusted God and offer his Son. God was actually demonstrating that Abraham was faithful. It's got nothing to do with maturity my friend.

Similarly, when we serve in faith as Christians in the church or even in the office, people will be able to see our fruits and thus we will be rewarded in this way. Nothing too complex there.

You see, there. It's so obvious to me that you are not willing to answer me because answering me will lead you to question your own beliefs because your beliefs were not founded upon God's Word. But then your conscience has been seared to such a degree that you now have to discredit me just so as to defend yourself. It's amazing how when people are starting to lose their credibility, they will resort to all kind of things.

Why do I have to come out with a framework? I follow the word of God. I do not create a framework and fit God's word in the framework like how Watchman nee does. You did not come out with any framework. You are just a follower of one. That's all.

The thing is you can only spread falsehood for so long. Eventually when the light shines on darkness, darkness will be exposed.

And I know you are just going to stay silent for a while and then when question further just come out and say that I did not prove anything. That is your operus mondi anyway. You do not have the balls to carry on with the discussion and have to resort to those tactics.

This post has been edited by sylar111: Oct 6 2014, 04:56 PM

Friend, you decide the conclusion.

If you are going to continue to be spoon fed and not be led by the spirit, nothing can be done to help you.

Dangerous because you said so?

Hey we are interpreting the bible. Not your version of things ok.

Which fella. And I dun see you saying anything.

If you are not contributing to anything, at least learn how to read.

The only person I am refuting is Pehkey. I am writing in support of UW. So what do you mean by refuting everyone in the first place?

Anyway, wrong accusing your brother is not something to be taken lightly

1 Peter 3:16English Standard Version (ESV)

16 having a good conscience, so that, when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ may be put to shame.

Well, at least post something constructive. It's better then wrongly accusing someone.

And no. The truth is narrow not wide.

This post has been edited by sylar111: Oct 7 2014, 01:33 PM

Well, Christianity is hard business.

Remember.

You are supposed to lose your life for it.

So did Jesus laugh when the Pharaisees were mocking him and shaming their religion?

Happy people most often do not know what's going on. They are the ones who always get cheated.

So I guess Noah was really happy too when he was building the ark knowing very well that the whole world is about to get destroyed.

This post has been edited by sylar111: Oct 7 2014, 05:32 PM

Nope. Who is he.

Why would you say that I am similar to him.

Well, to be honest. I really do not know who this accountant guy is.

Ok.I browse through some of what was written and this guy was a little too extreme. But then he is speaking the truth but just that the way he presents himself is a little too much. Did not read too much as I was just not interested.

If a brother makes a mistake, then he should be corrected. But then it is not too right to publicly say that guy makes a mistake unless you are very sure.

This post has been edited by sylar111: Oct 7 2014, 09:56 PM

You are from this church?

Well, for most non believers. Converting is pretty easy. I mean religion means nothing to them, so converting just for the sake of even getting you as a partner(not life partner) is not hard.

Anyway,

No need to be too desperate. I guess even though I am pretty hard core, I am influenced really heavily by Korean Dramas and I would think that when you love someone, nothing else matters anymore.

Not really. I am kinda emotional though.

Now confirm already.

Pehkey, you know what I mean.

Well.

One of the characteristic of Watchman Nee is they will do that.

So you judge for yourself.

Well the question is?

Why are you so afraid to let people know?

Because I asked you a few times, and you never reply.

So there is something to hide?

I was just wondering how come the things you teach is so "special" that's all.

This post has been edited by sylar111: Oct 9 2014, 06:26 PM

I hope you do not think shouting O Jesus multiple times is normal.

There are just too many errors in Watchman Nee.

To me it's pretty obvious.

Again. If he was so confident of his theology, why is he avoiding me?

And then replying to me again at an opportunistic time. Do we play those kind of tricks as Christians?

This post has been edited by sylar111: Oct 10 2014, 12:59 AM

Matthew 6:7
But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

1 Corinthians 5
6 Your glorying is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? 7 Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us.[c] 8 Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

Matthew 7:22
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

I will let you think through those verses.

My concern is not on whether pehkey replies to me or not. It is when he only replies when it is "convenient". Again I repeat. If he was confident, he will not need to resort to those tactics.

People like you are just not worth my time.

haha. Wonder what "christian" views you even have.

My guess is even. None.

Not necessary. In our daily life, notice that most of our decisions are not free. Even our thinking. It's not free. It's heavily influence by many things. Like what our teacher teaches us, what other people will think of us, our emotions, our "softness", environment factors, etc. Our decisions are not really free.

Man is sinful. So basically, by themselves, they will never choose God. It's only when God enables this person that this person will be able to seek God.

Since you understand that humans tend to choose evil, why do you think human will choose God out of free will?

This post has been edited by sylar111: Oct 13 2014, 06:12 AM